105 replies to this topic

[pRy]

AAAAA-MEN to that. Get that guy over for Monaco.

[Muppetmad]

Wow, even in prayers American motorsport shamelessly advertises its sponsors!

[TURU]

Jesus is back!

[pacificquay]

Pre-race prayers?

Thank god we don't see that in Formula One!

[jjcale]

... another area in which NASCAR beats F1.

... not to mention that it would literally kill them to say a prayer over here before a race?

[pingu666]

they have it at every race, and the national anthem xD

but yeah, that one was awesome

[AlexS]

Thank god we don't see that in Formula One!

A public Christian and Jewish prayer in Bahrain. Will be interesting to watch...

[Bunchies]

A public Christian and Jewish prayer in Bahrain. Will be interesting to watch...

Don't forget Malaysia! Large muslim population also.

[Les]

And thannnnkk youuuuuuu for my smokin' HOT WIFE!!!

Classic.

[Scotracer]

WTF. Prayers at motorsport events?

[scheivlak]

Instead of the national anthem:

"O Lord, won't you buy me a ........."

[Callisto]

WTF. Prayers at motorsport events?

My thoughts exactly

[chdphd]

WTF. Prayers at motorsport events?

I was at the "London ChampCar Trophy" at Brands Hatch a few years ago and they did one then. People were just looking at each other, shrugging.

[Crafty]

WTF. Prayers at motorsport events?

I'm not a religious person, but I don't see the issue with it ?
They are also big on family - thats why the wives/girlfriends/kids are stood with the drivers.

America, especially in southern states are quite religious, far more than the UK and I guess other european countries too.

Add in the respect they have for others, a fairly healthy dose of patriotism and a never ending love for all thing automotive it sounds good to me

[Andrew Hope]

Heard that on Radio Le Mans today and genuinely thought it was out of a movie I hadn't seen or something. Badass. And anyone who's never seen prayer at the race track has never stomped on the breaks and felt nothing happen..

Edited by andrew., 27 July 2011 - 23:54.

[Slyder]

Usually I just mute the prayer or do something else since I think prayer is pretty much a non-event.

But this one had me busting out in laughter. Totally badass. I wish prayers were like this.

[Slyder]

A public Christian and Jewish prayer in Bahrain. Will be interesting to watch...

US is predominantly Christian, hence why christian prayers can be made.

Logic would of course say that in a Muslim country, you'd be better off allowing the Muslims to entone to Allah and be respectful about it.

[Madera]

Nothing to watch here. Just another shameless hypocrite. Move along.

[Bunchies]

Nothing to watch here. Just another shameless hypocrite. Move along.

Who's the hypocrite here?

[UPRC]

F1 needs that man!!!

[gm914]

Maldonado is the only Pastor F1 needs...

[Secretariat]

Although I am an atheist, I have never had a problem with invocations before a race while watching on TV or while at the racetrack. However, I always found it odd that you would voluntarily engage in a potentially life threatening activity for the sport of it and then ask for a god's protection. I guess to each their own. As it relates to this guy, that energy will definitely get the juices flowing.

Edited by Secretariat, 28 July 2011 - 02:33.

[andrewr]

Maybe Bernie could pray for rain at random intervals during the race.

[whitewaterMkII]

WTF. Prayers at motorsport events?

Every little bit helps, no matter how you can get it on a track...
Definitely, best pre-race prayer ever. Classic.
More please.

Edited by whitewaterMkII, 28 July 2011 - 02:50.

[MattPete]

That prayer made baby-jeebus cry.

[Rotax44]

I'm not a religious person, but I don't see the issue with it ?
They are also big on family - thats why the wives/girlfriends/kids are stood with the drivers.

America, especially in southern states are quite religious, far more than the UK and I guess other european countries too.

Add in the respect they have for others, a fairly healthy dose of patriotism and a never ending love for all thing automotive it sounds good to me

Damn right.

I'm not religious either but North America is the Promised Land and my neighbours to the south are some of the finest people you could ever meet. Those from the old world who don't like that - well they don't have to come here trying to re-invent us in their image - we're doing just fine w/out them.

[Dunder]

LOL.
"Thank you Lord for Sunoco Racin' fuel".

[Rotax44]

Hell I'm thankful that we can still get Sunoco 94 at the pumps...lol

[RoutariEnjinu]

... another area in which NASCAR beats F1.

... not to mention that it would literally kill them to say a prayer over here before a race?

Sport doesn't need prayer or religion. It's an insult whenever a sportsman thanks god for victory, when you realise the prayers of children starving to death in Africa go unheard. Sounds like a cheap shot cliche doesn't it? Starving African children.
Saw them on the BBC Comic Relief this year a little girl, looking after an even younger baby sister, sitting and rocking and crying, praying to god for food, while the cameraman asks her how she feels.

So no, we don't need god in ****ing first world sports.

God is dead.

[Slowinfastout]

I'm not into this religion thing, but if there has to be a prayer I want it like that.

I really LOL'ed at the 'smoking hot wife' bit!

[Dilla]

That got the crowd pumped up something serious.

Most badass prayer ever; some people need to get the stick out their butts.

[Rotax44]

So no, we don't need god in ****ing first world sports.

You'll probably feel better after the second and third world drags the first world into the cesspool with them - then everyone will be equal and the dead even more so.

But I do agree that footballers praying to the holy goalie for a win is hilarious.

[Andrew Hope]

Dammit, I need to make my religious views heard on the internet! I don't care if this debate has been raging for centuries and online for decades, this post will make all those nutjobs ignore everything they've been told since birth and they'll suddenly see my side of the argument! **** yeah! **** God! **** me in the ass! ****!

[Rotax44]

Dammit, I need to make my religious views heard on the internet!

Absolutely!

And the best place to get that rolling is on an F1 fan boy forum where most of them have never actually been in a motor of any description and don't personally know anyone who has...lol

[404KF2]

Jeebus Criminy! Marry your cousin and this is what happens

[RoutariEnjinu]

Dammit, I need to make my religious views heard on the internet! I don't care if this debate has been raging for centuries and online for decades, this post will make all those nutjobs ignore everything they've been told since birth and they'll suddenly see my side of the argument! **** yeah! **** God! **** me in the ass! ****!

If that's the topic, then that's the topic.
I didn't make the thread, but I'm not going to shy away from my point of view. Just as jjcale doesn't shy away from seemingly saying he wants to see prayer in Formula 1.
I'm just glad I live in an time/place where I can do so without being tortured and killed for having this opinion.

There's no shortage of religious people who also think mentioning god in sports is completely tasteless and supremely arrogant and self-centered too. It's superfluous. It adds nothing. It does nothing. Pray in private.

[RoutariEnjinu]

And anyone who's never seen prayer at the race track has never stomped on the breaks and felt nothing happen..

How presumptuous of you. Sounds like the 'no atheists in foxholes' cannard.
You're projecting yourself on to others. If you don't have a belief in a god, and such a brown trousers moment happens, I can assure you, that this kind of person would be as likely to pray to god (let me guess, the Christian god right?), as you'd be likely to genuinely and honestly ask Spiderman for help in that instant.
They are equivalent to an Atheist. It doesn't enter the mind. From my own experience, what enters the mind is 'I hope this doesn't hurt' or 'maybe my mum was right, this is dangerous'

Edited by RoutariEnjinu, 28 July 2011 - 10:26.

[T-Mobile]

It's one thing to no believe in God and dislike prayer, but it is another to attack peoples beliefs, so be careful.

Having said that, thank god for Goodyear tires.

[Skellen]

Yeah, just imagine any Christian trying to openly pray in Bahrain, Abu Dhabi or Malaysia and then how would the "religion of peace" react for such event.

[Scotracer]

I'm not a religious person, but I don't see the issue with it ?
They are also big on family - thats why the wives/girlfriends/kids are stood with the drivers.

America, especially in southern states are quite religious, far more than the UK and I guess other european countries too.

Add in the respect they have for others, a fairly healthy dose of patriotism and a never ending love for all thing automotive it sounds good to me

I don't have an 'issue', but I do find it bloody weird.

[smitten]

Yeah, just imagine any Christian trying to openly pray in Bahrain, Abu Dhabi or Malaysia and then how would the "religion of peace" react for such event.

Somewhat inflamatory!

Some people like religion, and some people don't. If I wanted to hear prayers I'd be paying to go to my holy place every week; instead I am paying to go to a sporting event. I don't particularily care either way, but its something I can do without and fail to see its relevance to the event. If an organisation decides to do it then I'd not stop watching, but find it faintly distasteful and out of context. Likewise I'd not be bothered about a comedian doing a routine before a race, or the latest pop sensation plugging their latest single.

[Buckethead]

Praise Jesus.

[andrewr]

Praise Jesus.

No thanks. I'll praise whichever driver does the best job in the race.

[Rob]

Praise Jesus.

That charlatan?

Erm, no.

[sesku]

Yeah, just imagine any Christian trying to openly pray in Bahrain, Abu Dhabi or Malaysia and then how would the "religion of peace" react for such event.

People are free to practice their religion in Malaysia. it in the constitution.

Edited by sesku, 28 July 2011 - 15:19.

[Andrew Hope]

How presumptuous of you. Sounds like the 'no atheists in foxholes' cannard.
You're projecting yourself on to others. If you don't have a belief in a god, and such a brown trousers moment happens, I can assure you, that this kind of person would be as likely to pray to god (let me guess, the Christian god right?), as you'd be likely to genuinely and honestly ask Spiderman for help in that instant.
They are equivalent to an Atheist. It doesn't enter the mind. From my own experience, what enters the mind is 'I hope this doesn't hurt' or 'maybe my mum was right, this is dangerous'

Yeah, it was a ****ing joke.

[Bunchies]

Hell I'm thankful that we can still get Sunoco 94 at the pumps...lol

Once in a while, you can find Sunoco 100 and 110 octane at the pump as well. There's a certain gas station near my house that has leaded fuel out back as well. Very healthy for your engine. Very awful for the environment.

[Bunchies]

If that's the topic, then that's the topic.

It isn't the topic. The topic was about THIS prayer, not prayer in motorsport in general.

There's no shortage of religious people who also think mentioning god in sports is completely tasteless and supremely arrogant and self-centered too. It's superfluous. It adds nothing. It does nothing. Pray in private.

Yeah, that's THEIR method of praying. You'll find some Lutherans at odds with born again christians because their services and styles of worship are different. It's like a silent, solemn prayer versus one that is loud, designed to exude energy. It's like the difference between Szechuan and Shanghai style foods. Both are Chinese, and not one is "more Chinese" than the other.

[mursuka80]

WTF. Prayers at motorsport events?

It wasnt a prayer.It was an advertisement

[RoutariEnjinu]

It isn't the topic. The topic was about THIS prayer, not prayer in motorsport in general.

Which caused other forum members to suggest that prayer (presumably to Yahweh) before racing is something Formula 1 should do. I responded to that.

Yeah, that's THEIR method of praying. You'll find some Lutherans at odds with born again christians because their services and styles of worship are different. It's like a silent, solemn prayer versus one that is loud, designed to exude energy. It's like the difference between Szechuan and Shanghai style foods. Both are Chinese, and not one is "more Chinese" than the other.

I'm not talking about the method in which they pray. They're all equally 'Chinese' to me. I'm talking about the very act of thanking a deity for helping you score the winning touch down etc, while being aware of all the suffering going on in the world, but genuinely believing that in fact, the creator of the whole universe, the big alpha-male in the sky, chose YOU to help.

It's arrogance in it's highest form to think that. Regardless of whether it's done by singing, shouting, chanting or whispering.

We don't need it in sports, where you're praying for THE most insignificant 'first world problems' to be answered. We don't need it as a public ceremony before a race, especially in Formula One, which has an international audience, and tends to attract more science nerds than maybe other forms of motorsport do. You'd be alienating many people, for no good reason what so ever, many of them Theists of different flavours.
We don't need prayer in motorsport, and we don't need motorsport in church, although it might get more bums on seats that way

It's one thing to no believe in God and dislike prayer, but it is another to attack peoples beliefs, so be careful.

It's also something quite rude to insist on public prayer in a secular setting. It's not so bad in America, as they're all crazy about the Jesus, but it would only cause unnecessary friction in an international setting, which Formula One is.


This is my favourite version:

Edited by RoutariEnjinu, 29 July 2011 - 02:24.