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#1 mariner

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 12:59

Here is another of my endless links to the autocar website.

http://www.autocar.c...o-video-review/

Without being too churlish two comments

- It is certainly NOT the first single seater racing car with number plates - Lotus road legalised a Lotus 51 FF car way back in the 1960's...I am sure there are more.

- Without hopefully being too big headed I think I could buy an old F3 car ( or a hillclimb car) and modify it to meet the UK IVA rules for a lot less than $130K. If I bought a U2 clubmans car ( virtually a single seater) it would be quicker and probaly about $30K.

Not trying to knock their enginering or enterprise but in the end the the value added of the thing is the overall bodywork with the lights built in.

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#2 cheapracer

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 13:47

If I bought a U2 clubmans car ( virtually a single seater) it would be quicker and probaly about $30K.


Yep, even lazy people could get something together on the back of someone else for half the price.

Regardless of the last comment "who needs friends anyway", all attempts at road going singles have been failures but on their side these days is track day popularity.

Shame the Yamaha never made it but ...

http://www.google.co...Yamaha ox99-11

.... The Rocket sold 55 cars at 40,000 pounds ...

http://www.google.co...e...sa=N&tab=wi

And there's others out there, a couple of kit cars, DPCars offerings and the 3 wheeler "Sub" spring to mind.

http://www.google.co...l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

Edited by cheapracer, 07 September 2011 - 13:48.


#3 BRG

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 16:58

Don't see what the fuss is about - this thing been available for several years (OK, it has two seats, but it is a single seater really)

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#4 just me again

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 17:48

Found this on the Yamaha, a shame it never made it.

http://thekneeslider...amaha-supercar/

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#5 cheapracer

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 18:17

Found this on the Yamaha, a shame it never made it.


Typical "cluster fud", stupid large company handing over to a 'cost is no object' development company, money gets absorbed at a horrendous rate, nothings ever on time and it all just ends up going to **** - happens time and time again yet is still repeated over and over and we the car lovers suffer for their incompetence.

My friend can make cost effective Yamaha V8's in his small workshop with a staff of 3 yet Yamaha themselves ... I'm just amazed that Yamaha who have such a diversity of high performance motor vehicles can't make a simple and cheap supercar :confused:


#6 mariner

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 18:28

The Caparo is a stunning peice of car design and construction but not many seem to have been sold so I am not sure if it is still in series production.

Two things are odd

- I saw it running at the Bruntingthorpe test track four years ago and it was soooo quick. It also was pulled off the track for exceeding the drive-by noise limit so I don't know if they have fixed that. Most tests seem to be on the track

- The company name shown on the official Caparo website ( Caparo T1 Cars Ltd) doesn't appear as an offically registered Uk legal company - 0dd.

#7 Powersteer

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 22:24

Posted Image Speaking of Yamaha, this is its first supercar. Sorry for going off topic.

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#8 cheapracer

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 03:21

Speaking of Yamaha, this is its first supercar. Sorry for going off topic.


Exactly, they aren't short of capabilities and a lot of people probably don't know how close a relationship they have with Toyota. At the time of the OX99-11 Yamaha were building the production 200hp version of the 3S-GE 2litre Celica engine for Toyota so how hard would it be for them to make a cheap reliable 4 litre 400 hp V8 ... besides the racing turbo version at the time was making 600+ hp.

Why didn't they simply get Toyota's help to make the darn thing ... ?

I must say I thought the Yamaha was hot at the time but it hasn't aged well but I like the front wing between the headlights.

Mariner, I know Radical has a single seater version of the SR3 albeit the 2 seater with one seat in the middle of the car but not sure if it's a road model or not ...?

Edited by cheapracer, 08 September 2011 - 03:24.


#9 kikiturbo2

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 06:39

radicals have always been registred in the UK for the road privately by their owners..

however, now they have a "road" model SR3 SL, which is fully road homologated...

#10 Option1

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 17:38

There was also the UK road legal Vanwall replica

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 05:14

Yeah, the OX99-11 could be relevant today. It was a little radical at the time but it would have made a fantastic hardcore sports car nevertheless. It is certainly a better idea than the Caparo in terms of race style road car.

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