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[D.M.N.]

After Aldo Costa's departure earlier this Summer, its Chris Dyer now heading for the door:

PeterDWindsor
Chris Dyer has left Ferrari but isn't legally free to work in #f1 until mid-2012
29 minutes ago

I did read a rumour that Costa was heading for Mercedes, will be interesting to see if Dyer follows him. Wouldn't surprise me if Dyer went to Mercedes as well considering they both worked for Brawn in the early '00s.

[Andy865]

Christ.

This team are going to nose-dive hard. Who have they got left, Tombazis? Thats about it, Fry is no good.

[FTATRWeSaluteYou]

schumachers new race engineer

[mrmusicman]

He deserves to go after costing the team the world title last year.

[Disgrace]

I thought he had already left the Scuderia and worked for Ferraris GT team?

[Tardis40]

Michael, building his second dynasty one brick at a time!

[JimmyTheFox]

After a 2011 without a post defined in Ferrari, Dyer will be directing the Holden Racing Team in the Australian V8 Supercars.

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[GerhardBerger]

Christ.

This team are going to nose-dive hard. Who have they got left, Tombazis? Thats about it, Fry is no good.

Why is Fry no good?

They also have Hennel (chief aero) who is highly rated.

Edited by GerhardBerger, 08 September 2011 - 12:31.

[undersquare]

A year with no role?? What must that have felt like.

Ferrari, the family that loses together. Not.

[engel]

They're just unrooting the last remnants of Todt's Ferrari .. very Italian of them, hope it works out but frankly doubt it.

[TheBunk]

Chris Dyer, the man responsible for losing a dead certain 2010 championship. Plus numerous set up cock ups. Wont be missed by me.

[KavB]

It seems a lot of people consider Dyer a scape goat... Don't forget he is a great engineer, he will be an asset at any team he joins. I always felt he was annoyed when Raikkonen was sacked, and I thought he would leave soon after. It's no surprise he has left after Ferrari essentially blamed him for losing the championship.

[EdwardCullen]

Chris Dyer, the man responsible for losing a dead certain 2010 championship. Plus numerous set up cock ups. Wont be missed by me.

lol, as if a certain driver was flawless the entire season , the same man was race engineer for a driver who won 5 WDC with him!
and have you got any proof for the bolded part?

Edited by EdwardCullen, 08 September 2011 - 13:44.

[BRK]

lol, as if a certain driver was flawless the entire season , the same man was race engineer for a driver who won 5 WDC with him!
and have you got any proof for the bolded part?

Let them be, every time their driver messes up they'll sack someone or the other as scapegoat. Ferrari's loss is Mercedes' gain.


Or at least I hope so. Dyer + MS would be perfect.

[engel]

the same man was race engineer for a driver who won 5 WDC with him!

3 (well technically 2 since Dyer took over from Baldisseri after Schu won the championship in 2002)

Edited by engel, 08 September 2011 - 13:52.

[Rinehart]

Chris Dyer, the man responsible for losing a dead certain 2010 championship. Plus numerous set up cock ups. Wont be missed by me.

I don't think overtaking Petrov should be considered an impossible task for a would be 3xWDC.

[EdwardCullen]

3 (well technically 2 since Dyer took over from Baldisseri after Schu won the championship in 2002)

my mistake

[Atomicus]

lol, as if a certain driver was flawless the entire season , the same man was race engineer for a driver who won 5 WDC with him!
and have you got any proof for the bolded part?

Ah, hyperboles.

[TheBunk]

lol, as if a certain driver was flawless the entire season , the same man was race engineer for a driver who won 5 WDC with him!
and have you got any proof for the bolded part?

He was good with Shumi, but hopeless with Raikonen sometimes.

[EdwardCullen]

He was good with Shumi, but hopeless with Raikonen sometimes.

It was not Dyer's problem...it was B'stones tyre heat up problem.
and infact Dyer and Kimi gelled in perfectly.

and still you dont have proof for this statement "Plus numerous set up cock ups." ????

[BiH]

if Dyer and Costa end up at Mercedes

wouldn't be surprising if Schumacher sticks around F1 beyond 2012 season

[EdwardCullen]

if Dyer and Costa end up at Mercedes

wouldn't be surprising if Schumacher sticks around F1 beyond 2012 season

That all depends on how competative 2012 Merc is!

[GerhardBerger]

He was good with Shumi, but hopeless with Raikonen sometimes.

Wasn't Stella Raikonnen's race engineer at Ferrari?

[TheBunk]

It was not Dyer's problem...it was B'stones tyre heat up problem.
and infact Dyer and Kimi gelled in perfectly.

and still you dont have proof for this statement "Plus numerous set up cock ups." ????

Well, not exact numbers, but Kimi mentioned a lot of times they could not get the set up right. Since Dyer was the engineer, he is the responsible one.

It doesnt matter, for me im glad hes gone.

[TheBunk]

Wasn't Stella Raikonnen's race engineer at Ferrari?

Stella took over from Dyer when he was made overal race director or something.

[ivand911]

Dyer in Monza! Not losing much time, I guess.

Edited by ivand911, 08 September 2011 - 14:56.

[Jordana]

Well, not exact numbers, but Kimi mentioned a lot of times they could not get the set up right. Since Dyer was the engineer, he is the responsible one.

It doesnt matter, for me im glad hes gone.

I agree with you, yeah, I'm glad he left Ferrari. The Italian Team does not deserve such a great engineer!

[Jordana]

Let them be, every time their driver messes up they'll sack someone or the other as scapegoat. Ferrari's loss is Mercedes' gain.


Or at least I hope so. Dyer + MS would be perfect.

Lately, Ferrari has been behaving like a rookie team, blaming Dyer, blaming Costa. C'mon! I wish I knew what Mr. Todt thinks about it!

No doubt about Dyer +MS together... What a couple!

[TheBunk]

Indeed. They only want godlike, genius engineers. Well, and a puppet master like Smedley

[fabr68]

M. Schumacher+ Brawn...amazing

Todt, Dyer, Costa, etc.... amazing past. Time to look into the future.

[Ferrari2183]

Lately, Ferrari has been behaving like a rookie team, blaming Dyer, blaming Costa. C'mon! I wish I knew what Mr. Todt thinks about it!

No doubt about Dyer +MS together... What a couple!

Ferrari have been making changes and there are a number of, as yet, unconfirmed rumours of engineers on the move. Just because Dyer worked well with Schumacher doesn't mean he will work well with everybody...

Furthermore, I would rather see changes than them sticking with the same people and delivering similar equipment and results. It is time to move forward and best of luck to Dyer where ever he goes.

[2ms]

But it seems the more changes they make the worse they do. Started as Domenicali took over and has been downhill ever since.

[EdwardCullen]

Well, not exact numbers, but Kimi mentioned a lot of times they could not get the set up right. Since Dyer was the engineer, he is the responsible one.

It doesnt matter, for me im glad hes gone.

Hahaha
Kimi's problem was not Dyer...his problem was with b'stone tyres
He could not get the tyres to work in one lap but was able to do better in races
The same problem was experienced by other drivers like Nick
It was general problem with tyres
It's really laughable and shows how much u understand about technical parts

[Ferrari2183]

But it seems the more changes they make the worse they do. Started as Domenicali took over and has been downhill ever since.

The only major changes that they made apart from Todt and Brawn have been made this year and I personally welcome them. It is very difficult to put together a team like the Todt era and even that took time. The problem is the tifosi have gotten so used to winning and now they demand nothing less.

Let's give the current crop a chance and see where it leads. Dyer and Costa were not the be all and end all of Ferrari and neither will their replacements.

As far as downhill is concerned, the only failure I can see is 2009. Let's see how the rest of the current season goes before assessing it but thus far it has been mediocre at best.

[Watkins74]

Ferrari have been making changes and there are a number of, as yet, unconfirmed rumours of engineers on the move. Just because Dyer worked well with Schumacher doesn't mean he will work well with everybody...

Furthermore, I would rather see changes than them sticking with the same people and delivering similar equipment and results. It is time to move forward and best of luck to Dyer where ever he goes.

Nice post

[MaxBraun]

Aldo Costa rumored to join Mercedes and maybe Dyer within an year. Where is Tad Czapski these days ? When will Briatore join Mercedes to revival the biggest lobby & cheataria once again ??


Best Regards, MB.

[salamin]

Aldo Costa rumored to join Mercedes and maybe Dyer within an year. Where is Tad Czapski these days ? When will Briatore join Mercedes to revival the biggest lobby & cheataria once again ??


Best Regards, MB.

he's with mercedes if I'm not wrong

[BigCHrome]

I hope they also fire Smedley and McLaren get him for Hamilton. Andy LAME sucks.

[Ferrari2183]

I hope they also fire Smedley and McLaren get him for Hamilton. Andy LAME sucks.

Lol. For f@cks sake Lewis!

[Aieljose]

LOL At all the bitter Mclaren fans. What is it to you guys that he is let go? Anything to have a good dig at ferrari i suppose...

[MaxBraun]

he's with mercedes if I'm not wrong

I would not be surprised..

[Longtimefan]

Merc need to sign him ASAP!

He works well with Schumi!

[cilurnum]

He deserves to go after costing the team the world title last year.

Alas, the decisions that Dyer's departure were supposed to stop haven't stopped.

[cilurnum]

Why is Fry no good?

They also have Hennel (chief aero) who is highly rated.

Because a highly rated aerodynamic guy should be in Fry's position.

[cilurnum]

Kimi's problem was not Dyer...his problem was with b'stone tyres
He could not get the tyres to work in one lap but was able to do better in races

Actually, it was really a problem with the Ferrari at that time. It had a philosophy where it relied heavily on aerodynamic grip and was designed to be easy on the tyres at the expense of heating them up. Unfortunately, Raikkonen was an unusual driver who was quite easy on his tyres and so he could never get heat into them fast enough. Strangely, that problem still exists in the Ferrari today except with Massa in particular.

[as65p]

Lol. For f@cks sake Lewis!

[as65p]

Michael, building his second dynasty one brick at a time!

At this rate he'll have everything in place to dominate again around the time of his 50th birthday.

Fear the return!

[joshb]

At this rate he'll have everything in place to dominate again around the time of his 50th birthday.

Fear the return!

If it was good enough for Fangio well into his 40s...

[Atomicus]

Ferrari have been making changes and there are a number of, as yet, unconfirmed rumours of engineers on the move. Just because Dyer worked well with Schumacher doesn't mean he will work well with everybody...

Furthermore, I would rather see changes than them sticking with the same people and delivering similar equipment and results. It is time to move forward and best of luck to Dyer where ever he goes.

Agreed. A balanced post!

Lately, Ferrari has been behaving like a rookie team, blaming Dyer, blaming Costa. C'mon! I wish I knew what Mr. Todt thinks about it!

No doubt about Dyer +MS together... What a couple!

Actually the Schumacher+Brawn combo is far more meaningful and from what we've seen they have not been delivering much...

Also, bringing out Todt is desperate. He wasn't perfect either as Ferrari also had problems when he was there during some years (it is not that Ferrari in 2005 was a nice team for instance and in 2006 they lost the championship).
What it is clear is that Ferrari now is better than in 2009 so thumbs up for the changes, they can't be doing things that wrong.

I agree with you, yeah, I'm glad he left Ferrari. The Italian Team does not deserve such a great engineer!

Edited by Atomicus, 08 September 2011 - 20:49.

[EdwardCullen]

What it is clear is that Ferrari now is better than in 2009 so thumbs up for the changes, they can't be doing things that wrong.

So since 2009 they are doing things right, then why the need to sack every well know figures from the team?