348 replies to this topic

[Breadmaster]

[kos]

WOW!!!

Congrats, really!

[D82]

Shocking news!!! You`re not kidding, are you?

[Pascal]

Originally posted by D82

You`re not kidding, are you?

Nope. The car is going back to its birthplace: Italy.

[VAR1016]

Does that mean the end of this thread?

I suppose that all good things must come to an end!

PdeRL

[Ivan]

Pascal,
Congratulations!!

[Rob G]

Congratulations, Pascal! Glad you found it a new home.

[The Kanisteri]

Wow.

Finland winning eurovision song contest and Pascal getting car sold!

What next? Hell will freeze over?!


Well done, Zid...uh Pascal.

[Garagiste]

Congrats! Going to miss this thread though!

;)

[Vitesse2]

Originally posted by Pascal
SOLD

Merde alors! (Comme on dit en France!)

[rgagne]

Originally posted by Pascal
SOLD

...and in less than 6 1/4 years!!!

will you start your own used car business ?

[Andy]

Don't know how it happened but I became emotionally attached to that car over the past 6 years... I guess I'm happy for you that you sold it finally but I will miss her, she's been parked here at Atlas for so long...

[howardt]

Yes indeed. A chapter of Atlas history closes. Hope that it found a good home (or that it fell in love with a VW beetle and eloped)

Congrats Pascal. What are you sellingnext ??

[FordPrefect]

Sold?

Somehow this place will never be the same.....

[Mickey]

Originally posted by Pascal
Nope. The car is going back to its birthplace: Italy.

Oh no, we don't want it here

Congrats

[Alapan]

Was the buyer a BB member?

[Gilles4Ever]

was the buyer someone named Materazzi?

congrats

[Jhope]

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!!!!

[Dimo]

Originally posted by Andy
Don't know how it happened but I became emotionally attached to that car over the past 6 years... I guess I'm happy for you that you sold it finally but I will miss her, she's been parked here at Atlas for so long...

Indeed. I always thought of the Lancia as the Bulletin Board's mascot. It will not be the same without her.

[Pikachu Racing]

Hip Hip Horray!

[Jonathan]

Sadly Pascal

I am sure you are going to regret selling your Lancia.

I still wish you could have kept her.

[Ghostrider]

,

[revvhead]

Wow, Finally!!
Congrats Man!!

[Powersteer]

I am a massive fan of the Monte Carlo. When I was a kid I use to dream of owning one. Mid engined, twin cam and twin carburettor. The super version of it that born the Intergrale S4 was the Rallye, an absolute beauty. I think it should rank as the best looking rally car ever, side by side with its older brother the Stratos. The red version looked breathtaking. Pity you sold it, must have been a solid reason why.

[skinnylizard]

how much did you pay Pascal ?

[Menace]

Congrats Pascal!!

[Melbourne Park]

Congrats Pascal!

You've just got a lot older ...

[Option1]

Okay, this is not acceptable. Pascal, you just go out and buy it right back, this instant!

As others have pointed out, that car is part of here. You can't sell an Atlas F1 BB member FFS!

You void the sale right now or I'm never reading this thread again.

Neil

[Jordan191]

That's about as ****ing epic as this board gets

[Zmeej]

Rien ne va plus...

So, does the money you got for her feel dirty?

[DetroitFlame]

Congratulations Pascal.............

Boy I couldnt believe you had the car for sale for so long.As a new member Ive only just seen the thread today......But wow over 6yrs.........The thread is like a Zombie it just keeps on going no matter what ...............

[Gamera]

Originally posted by Jordan191
That's about as ****ing epic as this board gets

I haven't seen anything like it, he deserves a quote on FARK.com. :-) But I won't ,Pascal is a good mate and the Lancia was part of the guy. I remember being in the passenger seat while he drove this car and it was fun.

Some bar/resto owners in Monaco were naive enough to think it was this expensive car from some Ferrari like factory from afar and gave him the best parking space, in front of their resto... Only to realize a few seconds later that it was just a Lancia, but it was too late. Hehehe vanity :-)

[Pascal]

I could probably write a book if I was to recount all the crazy things I did with this car, and that does not even have to include trying to sell it!

[VAR1016]

Originally posted by Gamera



... it was just a Lancia,...

Just a LANCIA?

JUST??

PdeRL

[Melbourne Park]

Originally posted by VAR1016


Just a LANCIA?

JUST??

PdeRL

I thought the body was built by somebody quite special.

[Pascal]

Built by? I don't know.

But definitely designed by PininFarina.

[brett_sequeira]

dint zagato have something to do with Lancia, i had a friend in college who used to go on and on about the double bubble roof on his dads lancia and he used to mumble about Zagato.

[Melbourne Park]

Originally posted by Pascal
Built by? I don't know.

But definitely designed by PininFarina.

I think they were actually built by PininFarina. They only get the badge if they are. Earlier Lancia coupes were built there, and some even had the same instruments as Ferrari on the dash. Fiats X/19 was built in Bertone's factory, and it wore the Bertone badge. It had several items shared with the 2+2 Bertone Ferrari that I think was the only Bertone styled Ferrari car that was mass manufactured (maybe it was called a Dino, the early V8 one), such as the door handles on the inside, the air vents, the boot lid locking levers on the sills.

[Gamera]

Originally posted by VAR1016


Just a LANCIA?

JUST??

PdeRL

Ahem, well err..




err..

yup !

you know.

[Melbourne Park]

Originally posted by Gamera



Ahem, well err..




err..

yup !

you know.

People don't like them, but I have driven one, and they feel exactly the same as an X1/9 at slow/medium speeds, but heavier and with a lot more torque. And they brake a lot better in the wet than an X1/9, and at speed they are far superior (the X1/9 is fine except in the wind at 160 kmh it could be blown around the road).

Clarkson and friends on Top Gear did a cheap super car comparison, and they said don't buy one. But the 308GT4 won that thing easily, and it was a good car. But they didn't want to say that it was worth risking. The other two cars - a Maserati Merak and a Lambo, were terrible cars.

[VAR1016]

"JUST a Lancia"

Well the issue was with the name rather than with any particlar model...

The Lancia Montecarlo was indeed a Pininfarina effort; the build quality was atrocious and the brakes a joke.

However, Lancia made everything right with the superb 037 rally car, a radical development of the Montecarlo, I would love one.

PdeRL

[A3]

Holy crap!

Congrats Pascal!

[cosworth bdg]

Originally posted by Melbourne Park




People don't like them, but I have driven one, and they feel exactly the same as an X1/9 at slow/medium speeds, but heavier and with a lot more torque. And they brake a lot better in the wet than an X1/9, and at speed they are far superior (the X1/9 is fine except in the wind at 160 kmh it could be blown around the road).

Clarkson and friends on Top Gear did a cheap super car comparison, and they said don't buy one. But the 308GT4 won that thing easily, and it was a good car. But they didn't want to say that it was worth risking. The other two cars - a Maserati Merak and a Lambo, were terrible cars.

"Top Gear " has got it right . the Merak and Lambo are realy an embarassment .

[Melbourne Park]

Originally posted by cosworth bdg
"Top Gear " has got it right . the Merak and Lambo are realy an embarassment .

But they said the Ferrari was no good, but actually it was a good car ... and it even has two tiny spots behind the driver.

Ah well ... I had looked at Dino years ago, 'cause I loved the shape, and they were so cheap, and people said they were crap, and I didn't buy one ... I still regret that, and mostly for the car itself, but the return on them has been fantastic.

[911rsl]

VERY INTERESTING THREAD-



a car is worth either what someone will pay or what the owner will take (basically either/or - both). NEVER tell someone that something is TOO expensive. just move on.

i've been a collector for 30 plus yrs. do you know how many times i've heard people scoff at something as being too $. only to have them fall on their face in disbelief years later.

a for instance. circa 1997 , in an informal talk with a collector aquantance about a collector boat he had sold. he mentioned he was selling his vintage ferrari. i asked what it was and a description. he told me a 1963 250 lusso. he wanted $100k U.S. . at the time nice restored examples where bringing about 150-175k
he told me it was a decent example with older paint. the next comment was " it's kind of neat though in that it used to be owned by Steve Mcqueen!

Well, i imediately saw the value - but did not have the $. i had MANY years prior mostly given up turning rare cars as for the most part - people are thieves and dishonest. and if you in general turn someone on to a great deal that you know where it is and they don't . and you will show them for a fee. usually they are going to lie (tell you they'll pay your fee , get you to turn them on to the deal, and burn you for your fee).
and in general, the richer the people are the MORE untrustworthy they are in this respect!

so i only knew a couple people that i would even bother trying to tell. well i did, and no one saw the value and stepped up.

as stated that was 1997

today is aug. 21, 2007.

on aug 16, 2007 the same car sold at Christies Auction in Monterey , Ca. for

$ 2,310,000 U.S. with the buyers commision

i could show most people (even collectors ) a great deal collector car value car for the future right now, and 99.9 % of people would not see the future value.

that is the way of really rare collectors items and antiques, Most do not have a clue.

and people with small balls will never have anything great.

future home runs are made by not stealing something at a cheap for today (or even low) price. but usually by paying the fair price for the unpolished gem that not many see the shine in.
















$ 2,310,000

[Arrows4Ever]

[Melbourne Park]

Originally posted by 911rsl
VERY INTERESTING THREAD-



a car is worth either what someone will pay or what the owner will take (basically either/or - both). NEVER tell someone that something is TOO expensive. just move on.

i've been a collector for 30 plus yrs. do you know how many times i've heard people scoff at something as being too $. only to have them fall on their face in disbelief years later.

a for instance. circa 1997 , in an informal talk with a collector aquantance about a collector boat he had sold. he mentioned he was selling his vintage ferrari. i asked what it was and a description. he told me a 1963 250 lusso. he wanted $100k U.S. . at the time nice restored examples where bringing about 150-175k
he told me it was a decent example with older paint. the next comment was " it's kind of neat though in that it used to be owned by Steve Mcqueen!

Well, i imediately saw the value - but did not have the $. i had MANY years prior mostly given up turning rare cars as for the most part - people are thieves and dishonest. and if you in general turn someone on to a great deal that you know where it is and they don't . and you will show them for a fee. usually they are going to lie (tell you they'll pay your fee , get you to turn them on to the deal, and burn you for your fee).
and in general, the richer the people are the MORE untrustworthy they are in this respect!

so i only knew a couple people that i would even bother trying to tell. well i did, and no one saw the value and stepped up.

as stated that was 1997

today is aug. 21, 2007.

on aug 16, 2007 the same car sold at Christies Auction in Monterey , Ca. for

$ 2,310,000 U.S. with the buyers commision

i could show most people (even collectors ) a great deal collector car value car for the future right now, and 99.9 % of people would not see the future value.

that is the way of really rare collectors items and antiques, Most do not have a clue.

and people with small balls will never have anything great.

future home runs are made by not stealing something at a cheap for today (or even low) price. but usually by paying the fair price for the unpolished gem that not many see the shine in.

Not sure if that's such a great story ... well the Dinos I looked at had that return, damn it.

But your welcome to post those good future buys here, we won't tell anyone!

[Elsie06]

This is a great thread (as two or three others have said before me)
8 years this has been going on which makes it in fact quite a phenomenal thread, in fact.

I find the exchange rate quite historical - what was it that you said in your first post 9900 euros about $10500

Not any more :

[fbarrett]

Pascal:

I hope you got full price. In this country (US) the Monte Carlo would be a cool car to own, something no one else has.

I once took four years to sell an excellent 300SEL 6.3. The technique that eventually worked was not dropping the price but raising it. Meanwhile I got to enjoy driving it (and hate paying to maintain it).

There's an old saying about paying a lot for a car: "You don't pay too much, you just buy it too soon." With that in mind, here's my list of lost cars, prices, and dates I turned them down:

Mercedes-Benz 300SL: $7,000, 1966
Porsche Speedster: $1,200, 1967
Porsche RS60 (ex-Ritchie Ginther, fresh engine, and trailer): $3,500, 1972
Porsche 904 (concours cond. $25,000, 1976

Cars to buy now (in excellent condition):

Mercedes-Benz 190E2.3 (and 2.5)-16
Porsche Turbo
Mercedes-Benz 500E
Porsche 914 and 912 (please don't laugh)
Porsche 928
Alfa Giulia Spider (maybe already be too late)

Frank