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#1 Cinquecento

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 12:11

Naghaae! Azzzzzatcha! Gaaeerrtthh!

I am sorry. I don't have a wheel and pedals, I do not allow myself to buy one until I've graduated from the university, and I'm a lazy ass bum working full time. So it ain't gunna be anytime soon.

Nardaashacka!

So I'm racing with keyboard control. Gas pedal = on/off. Brake pedal = on/off. Steering = perpetual motion, cannot turn and hold the wheel steady through a corner. Result = manic driving, overheating tires, excursion every ten laps. No, make that five.

This is unbearable. Somebody in some other thread a while ago suggested that you can artificially slow down the opposition. Now I cannot find where it was, and I beg for help. It involved altering a value between 0 and 2, where 1 was the default. Or something like that.

For my sanity, I need to make the fast boys slower until I get myself the equipment to push hard with. How do I do it?

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#2 Bobb

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 13:15

jeeez.......I would think even a cheap joystick would be prefferable (and easier) than the keys......anyway, try AI Tweaker, by Karri Ikonen, available at US Pits......the easiest, best way to get a competitive race.......if you need help with settings, post again

#3 The Swerve

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 13:26

That's www.theuspits.com

#4 mahelgel

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 14:39

hmm.. playing gpl with keyboard must be agonising... buy a joystick (their cheap, and works ok with most driving games/sims). I use a joystick (old CH Mach3, 2 axis, 2 button) and drive reasonably fast with that. I would probably be a bit faster with a wheel, but they are pretty expensive, and takes time getting used to after driving with a joystick for so long...

#5 BuzzingHornet

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 15:15

I used to play with keyboard, it was pretty soul destroying cos there are definite limits on how fast you can make the car go if you can't powerslide it/brake late/run in strange gears etc.

Still its better than nothing :) And when you beat a field full of guys with wheels and pedals...;)

#6 Cinquecento

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Posted 12 March 2001 - 08:27

Thank you Bobb, Swerve, others. I downloaded it and the accompanying software, but it doesn't work. File not found, it says, when I try to open the unzipped tweaker. I'll see what I can come up with.

Yes, yes... I ought to buy a stick or a wheel.. but I've promised a certain someone that I won't before I've graduated. Just trying to fool her by playing with keyboard.

#7 Irvine`s Love Child

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Posted 12 March 2001 - 20:12

Hi Cinquecento, the info I think you were looking for is contained in this thread on slowing down the GPL AI cars.

If you email me your address I`ll send the aitweaks.zip (which contains the revised driver.ini file) and the new gpl_ai.ini file over to you ... irvineslovechild@hotmail.com

The new driver.ini file makes the `quick` AI guys like Clark and Hill etc... more susceptible to changes in your npt_override value.

The new gpl_ai.ini file makes the AI guys slightly more aggressive in defending their line going into a turn, and overtaking slower traffic. This makes the AI a bit more realistic.

I`d advise you to make backup copies of your original driver.ini and gpl_ai.ini files in case you want to go back to your original set up. If all this sounds like gobbledegook have a good read of the thread. If it still sounds like gobbledegook - break open a beer, only 6 days to the Malaysian GP :D

Cheers ILC



#8 AlesiGOD

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Posted 12 March 2001 - 20:50

How much faster are you with a wheel (and pedals)? :) just set a new pb. of 1:06.98 at Glen(Ferrari) with the keyboard.

#9 mahelgel

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Posted 12 March 2001 - 21:05

wow.. that's just .8 slower than i am with a joystick... impressive.. most impressive :)

you would probably be a lot faster with a wheel or a joystick, but it will take time to relearn how to drive again... (i switched to a wheel and then back to the joystick i am using now, and neede a few days to get up to speed both times.. )

#10 Irvine`s Love Child

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Posted 12 March 2001 - 22:21

Originally posted by AlesiGOD
How much faster are you with a wheel (and pedals)? :) just set a new pb. of 1:06.98 at Glen(Ferrari) with the keyboard.


Answer, 5 hundredths of a second :D

Still on 1:06.93 in the Lotus AlesiGOD. I`ve seen one of your Glen replays and can`t imagine driving as fast as that on a keyboard :eek:. All that constant finger twiddling would have me knackered in no time. I`d agree that a joystick is a better compromise than the keyboard, the least you`ll have is smoother control of the steering ( ...... fond memories of me taking the Spoon Curve at Suzuka in GP1 on a £9 joystick sigh ... ).

If you want to feel like your handling the car, I`d definitely suggest you get a wheel. It just feels more natural. OK they can be expensive but they`ll last you for years.

#11 Cinquecento

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Posted 13 March 2001 - 08:39

Irvine's Love Child,

Thanks, I've sent you an e-mail. I can't believe I couldn't find the original thread where you posted this information. I feel idiotic about that, yet happy that I have a shout at the game soon enough.

I think I've done a 1.08.08 at the Glen, but I haven't really raced there for a while. Mosport is where I do most of my races, I've snatched a very low 1.25 there a couple of times.

#12 Irvine`s Love Child

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Posted 13 March 2001 - 13:30

No problem Cinquecento, that`s what forums are for.
Cheesy quote found on office desk rolodex ... " If you have knowledge let others light their candles by it ! "

I`ll send the files over after I get back from work. It`s good to know that some Finns are mere mortals when it comes to driving, like the rest of us :)

Later, Eddie jnr :cool: