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#751 SJ Lambert

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 09:36

Just in case anyone is interested in what the viaduct looks like, fifty years on:

 

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The Historic Racing Car Club of Tasmania have gatherings there from time to time!



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#752 ellrosso

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 22:17

Few random Longford shots - I may have posted some before but they probably would have been wiped in the Photobucket debacle.5249_E_Mc_La_65-lo.jpg5252_E_Gard_65-lo.jpg5261_E_LDavo_63-lo.jpg5319_H_BRM_67-lo.jpg5322_H_Start_67-lo.jpg5291_E_Ham_I_66-lo.jpg



#753 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 00:13

Originally posted by ellrosso
Few random Longford shots - I may have posted some before but they probably would have been wiped in the Photobucket debacle.


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Another interesting shot...

Gardner sitting in the Brabham BT11 talking to someone under a hat. Could it be Alec? Or maybe Hope Bartlett? Both wore hats like that.

Bob Grange is talking to somebody in front of the Mildren Maserati, could it be Gayle Holmes/Sach, or is he talking to Ralph, or is Glenn Abbey under there?

Ralph Sach is in his driving suit's pants and has a yellow shirt on next to Bob, while Stuart Randall is into the workings of the Mildren, possibly trying to do something about an oil leak it had that weekend.

I have no idea who it is in the grubby overalls...




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Edited by Ray Bell, 09 March 2018 - 00:14.


#754 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 00:16

Originally posted by ellrosso
Few random Longford shots - I may have posted some before but they probably would have been wiped in the Photobucket debacle.

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And don't they look better without an advert beside them cramping their style?

Could it be Hobden up behind Hill? It's not Matich, Palmer or Stillwell.

In the last pic we have the two works Brabhams leading away from Martin, Gardner and Bartlett. This is the Examiner Trophy race on the Saturday.

Stewart damaged his transmission off the line, so those avoiding him are Leo Geoghegan way out to the left, Chris Irwin and Jim Clark, really badly held up by Stewart pulling off. Harvey tails them.



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Edited by Ray Bell, 18 May 2018 - 08:12.


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 02:19

I'll ask Peter Mather re Jack Hobden - they're good mates from back in those days (still are too - bought a 8x12 of Jack a couple of years ago for his 70th birthday from ORP library)



#756 ellrosso

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:55

Spoke to Peter Mather - not Jack Hobden. He thought maybe Jim Palmer?



#757 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 08:05

It's no Palmer...

#758 ellrosso

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 08:56

We're running out of options Ray....... I don't think they would have had the F2 guys in the cars..... Kerry Grant? Rocky Tresise?



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Posted 12 March 2018 - 09:09

My guess is Jane, Matich (in seat) & Cusack (but I haven't double checked if he ran).

 

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Edited by cooper997, 17 April 2018 - 10:18.


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#760 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 09:38

I sure looks like Cusack...

But he wasn't there. It has to be '65 because that's the only year Phil Hill was there. It's not Rocky Tresise, I don't think it's Kerry Grant, Glynn Scott, John McDonald or Mel McEwin, it might be Roly Levis or Lyn Archer.

Are we sure it's Jane on the other side?




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Edited by Ray Bell, 12 March 2018 - 13:02.


#761 cooper997

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:29

Actually I think Lindsay's just having a tease of us.

 

The driver parade photos have to be 1964. In another sister photo I have Bruce is holding what looks like the Tasman Cup and G Hill is with him because he won the 1964 event. If it was 1965 then surely one wee Scot who farmed as well as raced, would be with Bruce.

 

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#762 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 12:55

So it's not Phil Hill...

I don't think it's Bob Jane either. Cusack was there in '64, Shelly, Glass, Youl and Patterson were others to consider.

Here's the pic again:

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Edited by Ray Bell, 18 May 2018 - 08:14.


#763 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 13:23

The second car is not for the main race...

The Australian Tourist Trophy saw the placegetters behind Matich as... Jane and Cusack.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:50

I'd agree that it's 1964, not '65.

Have a look at the pullover edging and the overalls collar angle line in Stephen's B & W pic and compare it with the colour shot. And the light colour car behind.

Looks all the same to me.

And it looks like Frank M in the front seat (check his profile in the B & W), which would tie in with the ATT results that Ray posted.

Hill and Mc Laren were 1&2 in the SP Trophy in 1964, so this looks like the feature races placegetters' parade.

Frank was third in the SPT, but good and all as he was, he couldn't be in both parade cars at once.

So, who did the pale blue car hold - what was the other important "trophy" class race that weekend?


Edited by Kenzclass, 13 March 2018 - 04:01.


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:36

Good lord! What a mistaken caption on the back of a slide can do...... The power of TNF solves yet another issue. Well done to all involved.



#766 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:41

Geoff Russell, John Goss and Jim McKeown were the placegetters in the main tintop race...

But it could have been someone from the bikes, or maybe even the locals-only race?

Then again, the 1500cc class of the SPT was won by Gardner followed by Cusack (again), Hobden (?) and McEwin.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:50

It would appear for the 1965 Driver's Parade the Triumph Spitfire had that gig.

 

My guess for the 3rd Datsun iin the 1964 Parade is Kel Carruthers.

 

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 11:49

It would appear for the 1965 Driver's Parade the Triumph Spitfire had that gig.

 

My guess for the 3rd Datsun iin the 1964 Parade is Kel Carruthers.

 

Stephen. 

Given that he did win the South Pacific 500cc Motorcycle Championship event that weekend, I'd go with that, and also by looking at said subject's ears and hairline on maximum zoom, as best I could.

IIRC, this meeting was the basis of the film doco 'Long Weekend at Longford', my DVD copy of which I've obviously loaned out, without recording to whom.

Might have to round up "the usual suspects" and try to retrieve it.



#769 Kenzclass

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:17

Just watched "Long Weekend..." on YouTube, and at the 21 min mark (of 22 mins total), sure enough, there's the 3 Datsun post-race parade, with those we've correctly identified.

And yes, Stephen, line up to collect your winnings - it's definitely Kel C riding solo (pun not intended) in the blue Datsun.


Edited by Kenzclass, 13 March 2018 - 12:21.


#770 cooper997

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 18:53

Thanks Kenz for checking the footage. I only ever got the Longford video a million years ago. But it''s probably almost that long since I looked at it. Might be worth popping the 'Long Weekend at Longford' youtube link in this thread.

 

I had blown the photo up like you (on the ipad) to come up with my guess. Now Lindsay can add to his file for that photo.

 

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Edited by cooper997, 14 March 2018 - 18:54.


#771 ellrosso

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 20:33

Thanks again to everyone for their input - the caption has been corrected on the website....... here is the correct 1965 parade shot.6387_I_Clar_65-lo.jpg



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 23:51

To mark the 50th anniversary of the final 'Long Weekend at Longford' I made a pilgrimage down there this last long weekend. (4,200 kms)

 

 

The Crossing...Note the parked car...
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I drove what I could of the remains - including the flying mile.

 

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 00:33

To mark the 50th anniversary of the final 'Long Weekend at Longford' I made a pilgrimage down there this last long weekend. (4,200 kms)

 

 

I drove what I could of the remains - including the flying mile.

 

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OK, I'll bite, that is far too temping an image for me....what is the car in question ?.  I've no doubt there's some on this forum will have no trouble at all, but I'm quite prepared to admit that I'm not one of them !

 

BTW, I was driving past here over the Long Weekend as well, on my way to & from the NW coast......my dad & uncle used to spend their long weekends right there at Longford.

 

cheers

 

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:08

Thanks again to everyone for their input - the caption has been corrected on the website....... here is the correct 1965 parade shot.6387_I_Clar_65-lo.jpg

 

 

Looks like the blue Datsun was a "go to" choice for any Lap of Honour.

Must say the two '65 passengers are better looking than Kel C, though. (No offence, Kel!)


Edited by Kenzclass, 15 March 2018 - 01:11.


#775 cooper997

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 22:52

Here's the link to the film Kenzclass mentions a few posts back, Long weekend at Longford is a great piece of film that shows why racing enthusiasts would not let Bass Strait hinder a visit to Australia's Island state of Tasmania when great motor racing at Longford was on offer. Of course, plenty of Tasmanians were also drawn to their big annual International race meeting.

 

Sit back and enjoy what the 1964 meeting had..

https://youtu.be/idVwSpxE9qg

 

and here's some 1961 footage

https://youtu.be/7WzaO8XIerE

 

and if that's not enough, here's a Channel 7 Mike Raymond interview with Frank Gardner talking retrospectively on racing at Longford

https://youtu.be/VuycMbQDHrg

 

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 08:11

 

To mark the 50th anniversary of the final 'Long Weekend at Longford' I made a pilgrimage down there this last long weekend. (4,200 kms)

 

 

I drove what I could of the remains - including the flying mile.

 

IMG_1909_zpseeieenvq.jpg

 

 

OK, I'll bite, that is far too temping an image for me....what is the car in question ?.  I've no doubt there's some on this forum will have no trouble at all, but I'm quite prepared to admit that I'm not one of them !

 

BTW, I was driving past here over the Long Weekend as well, on my way to & from the NW coast......my dad & uncle used to spend their long weekends right there at Longford.

 

cheers

 

Mal.

 

 

We need Wirra to ditch photobucket and try postimage. I usually see a photobucket photo once and then the next time it's just their 100% PITA image.

 

In response to Mal's question, I believe the car in question is Wirra's 240 or 260Z based 250GTO. That would have been good fun blasting around Tasmania.

 

Stephen



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Posted 30 March 2018 - 22:25

Okay Stephen, now using Postimage.

 

Plenty of sunshine, just not at the right angle.

 

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Edited by Wirra, 23 April 2018 - 10:48.


#778 Ray Bell

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Posted 30 March 2018 - 23:09

Welcome home, Peter...

But BP signs on that servo just don't seem right!

And hasn't the price increased!



Edit:

Here's Lindsay's photo of the '65 parade:

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Edited by Ray Bell, 18 May 2018 - 08:17.


#779 cooper997

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Posted 30 March 2018 - 23:12

Great to see all your images, Wirra.

 

Is there much Longford motor racing theme left inside the pub these days?

 

Stephen



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#780 Wirra

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 01:26

Stephen. I was unaware of the memorabilia inside the pub. I have since become better informed.

 

I did have thoughts of going inside but as it was around 11:00 it was a wee bit early for me to partake.



#781 cooper997

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:39

Thanks Peter, you should have just used the excuse you were going for a cuppa.

 

Stephen



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Posted 31 March 2018 - 21:39

Great to see all your images, Wirra.

 

Is there much Longford motor racing theme left inside the pub these days?

 

Stephen

 

Yes.  Well worth a visit.  Even at 11:00 they serve a pretty good beer too, after all the sun is over the yard arm somewhere by then. 



#783 cooper997

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:42

Having just put this slide photo on the April 7th 1968 Jim Clark remembered thread, probably worth adding here too.

 

Monday, March 4, 1968 Longford - playing in the rain on his 32nd birthday. After a few laps of mucky weather possibly wishing he could whip through the Mountford property gates and have a nice warm cuppa and some birthday cake.

 

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Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 17 April 2018 - 10:22.


#784 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 11:07

Very atmospheric, Stephen...

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 12:44

What a beauty of a shot Stephen, such an unusual angle, thanks for posting, M

#786 cooper997

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 21:40

From a slightly out of focus slide it has come up quite well. A little piece of Longford history, Indeed atmospheric and a different spot to snap away.

 

Interesting how it shows the officials cars parked in there, too.

 

Stephen



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Posted 08 April 2018 - 00:39

What a wonderful Longford photo Stephen. Definitely one of the best I’ve ever seen. Just terrific - thanks for posting it.

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 02:58

Wonderful  photo of a champion in a champion car


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:04

Thank you for the kind words Gents regarding the earlier Jimmy photo.

 

I've pondered this following shot (and some others like it) for a while now. Post or not?  It's Longford, it's Jim in the wet, it's at the viaduct entry, it's the whole frame of the shot and it didn't quite come off. Had it done so, it would probably be a cracking shot.

 

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Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 17 April 2018 - 10:28.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:14

Awesome!

#791 Kenzclass

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:54

...I've pondered this following shot (and some others like it) for a while now. Post or not?  It's Longford, it's Jim in the wet, it's at the viaduct entry, it's the whole frame of the shot and it didn't quite come off. Had it done so, it would probably be a cracking shot.
Stephen

Since when has there been permission needed to post ANYTHING about Jimmy?
We’re waiting....
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:16

Ken, I was nearly going to write look back through the last 4 or so years of this thread to find some Jimmy photos I had posted from the 1965 event. But I just checked and they are not here. So must be on the original Kevin Drage version of the Oz photos thread (now locked). That means they should be on here too.

 

I'm up to 800 odd images uploaded to postimage, so please be patient and I'll see if I can find the original image codes.

 

Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 08 April 2018 - 10:19.


#793 cooper997

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:38

This has turned out easier than first thought.

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Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 17 April 2018 - 10:31.


#794 cooper997

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:58

Cant'spoil you too much Ken... but here's a fresh one never posted.

 

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This is indeed another slide I've pondered over, because it has degraded. It's 1965 again, but the moment with Jim and Bruce captured is priceless.

 

Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 17 April 2018 - 10:32.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:59

I do like the above pic of Jimmy driving the car through the paddock.



#796 ellrosso

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:45

Great stuff Stephen. Keep them coming.

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:18

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Overalls were optional for the mechanics.

 

Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 17 April 2018 - 10:33.


#798 SJ Lambert

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:38

Looks like there wasn’t an over abundance of footwear around either!

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 23:47

There's other slides of Jim's helpers, I'm not sure if they're official Team Lotus mechanics, but they sure had a casual dress sense that weekend at Longford.

 

Stephen.



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 01:48

Ray Parsons, on the right, was on the team...

He's seen without a shirt at the Farm in some recent pics on Roaring Season.






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