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[etceterini.com]

Here is a new page I just posted:

http://www.cliffreut...acingphotos.htm

And can we ID this car which I should know:

http://www.cliffreut...racepage/62.jpg

[Barry Boor]

The tail reminds me of the Nash Healey from Le Mans in 1953.

[David McKinney]

I wondered Allard, but the frontal shots do look more Nash-Healey

[arttidesco]

Barry and David seem to be spot on

[Ted Walker]

Nash Healey Le Mans car

[RA Historian]

Absolutely. As pictured in the first post it was being driven by Andy Rosenberger, of the Milwaukee area, who owned and raced it in the mid-1950s. He mostly drove it in the midwest, Road America, Milwaukee, Wilmot Hills, the early area airport circuits etc. He did take it to Sebring one year. c1956 he replaced the rather anemic Nash engine with a Packard V-8.

http://www.racingspo...berger-USA.html

Tom

Edited by RA Historian, 11 October 2012 - 13:55.

[David McKinney]

OTT - I always wondered if Andy Rosenberger, whose name I connect with Jaguars, was related to one-time Mercedes works driver Adolf Rosenberger, who emigrated to the US in 1933

[ReWind]

@David:
Probably no. Just from looking at their respective life dates:
Adolf Rosenberger b. 1900 (Germany) d. 1967 (USA [California])
Andy Rosenberger b. 1921 (USA [Wisconsin]) d. 1999 (USA [Kentucky])

Rosenberger is a fairly common name.
There is a German rally driver called Friedrich Rosenberger (b. 1931) and an Austrian rally champion called Kris Rosenberger (b. 1969 [Canada]).

[David McKinney]

Thanks Reinhard

I know the surname's not uncommon - even in the US - but it was the motor-racing angle that made me wonder

As you point out however, the dates don't fit...

[Vitesse2]

Thanks Reinhard

I know the surname's not uncommon - even in the US - but it was the motor-racing angle that made me wonder

As you point out however, the dates don't fit...

... and Adolf Rosenberger changed his name to Alan Roberts.

[Tim Murray]

As Reinhard has posted a couple of times, it's Alan Robert - no 's':

What a difference one single letter makes.
Adolf Rosenberger did not assume the name "Alan Roberts" but the name "Alan Robert" (without "s").

He died in California on 06 December 1967.

This date guides us to his birth date, too, which is 08 April 1900.

More about Rosenberger's fate here (although only in German).

Just to be correct: His American name was Alan Arthur Robert, no "s" at the end.

[arttidesco]

As Reinhard has posted a couple of times, it's Alan Robert - no 's':

The link to Adolf Rosenbergers fate has moved to this link.

In summary it says that Adolf had a 15% interest in the Dr. Ing.hcF Porsche GmbH design office which Ferdinand Porsche appears to have taken over after Adolf's arrest, for being Jewish, in 1935.

Porsche and Rosenberger settled in 1950, Adolf was given 50,000 marks and a VW Beetle.

[eatpasta]

I can't tell you all how bizarre it is to stumble across a thread about your own family - because of this I had to sign up for the forum!

 

 

 

Andy Rosenberger was my grandfather.

 

To confirm, he was of no relation (that I am aware) to Adolf Rosenberger who worked within the Porsche organization.

 

Grandpa was a founding member of SCCA in the Milwaukee area and was very active in the organization as well as racing.   He started off with MG TC's and went on to race XK120's and XK140's with mixed results as the Jag's famously had reliability issues.

 

He of course went on to race the Nash-Healey Le Mans car for a few years.  I'm not sure where he found the car or the Packard V8 that eventually went into the car.

 

When I was about 7 or 8 years old he taught me how to drive a stick on his 1934 Triumph Gloria as it was right hand drive and I was used to shifting from the passenger seat, so to him it made sense

 

[Porsche718]

A big welcome to the TNF family!

[eatpasta]

A big welcome to the TNF family!

 

Hey thanks!   This forum doesnt get as many posts as I'm quite used to

 

 

it's a very cool site though - looking forward to digging in a little deeper when I get a bit more time