
Goodbye Michael Schumacher
#51
Posted 26 November 2012 - 00:00
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#52
Posted 26 November 2012 - 00:02

#53
Posted 26 November 2012 - 00:54
How? Look identical to me?
Vettel was WDC even if he didn't get past Schumacher., that's one difference.
Another is that there is KERS and DRS now making things much easier.
Another one Schumacher was 2 seconds slower in S2 also the next lap following after being passed by Vettel. Even Schumacher knows that there are times when it's not worth to fight when the car doesn't let you do that, and especially not if it's someone elses fight.
And track conditions at that time were different as well.
#54
Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:03
#55
Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:20

#56
Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:38
#57
Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:24
Also enjoyed his battle with Raikkonen, excellent wheel to wheel stuff that only top drivers can manage. He must have some respect for Kimi as he did not nudge him off the track as he later did to Kobayashi on the very last racing lap in his career!, I wouldn't have expected any different.
So goodbye Michael, F1 won't be the same without you.
Edited by halifaxf1fan, 26 November 2012 - 23:13.
#58
Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:59
Goodbye Michael and thanks for Hungary 98... probably the best drive I've ever seen.
Indeed.
I would put San Marino 2003 when his mother died. That was incredible stuff. To race like that when he was overcome with sad emotions.
Edited by George Costanza, 26 November 2012 - 03:02.
#59
Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:58
Something tells me that this is not his last F1 retirement
Why?
You think he'll pull a Mario Andretti (like Mario did in the 90s with CART) and still race? I highly doubt he'll come back.
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#60
Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:00
Indeed.
I would put San Marino 2003 when his mother died. That was incredible stuff. To race like that when he was overcome with sad emotions.
He and Ralf. Very strong of both of them to do that.
#61
Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:55
Thank god there's Hamilton.
#62
Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:43
#63
Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:05
#64
Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:50
Also enjoyed his battle with Raikkonen, excellent wheel to wheel stuff that only top drivers can manage. He must have some respect for Kimi as he did not nudge him off the track as he later did to Kobayashi on the very last racing lap in his career!, I wouldn't have expected any different.
Yeah the clash with KR was pure excellence. People remember how they did the same in 2006 but I for some reason thought of JPM move on MSC from 2001. Great stuff!
MSC contact with Koba is also symbolic in a couple of ways. First in how hard MSC races. Second in how MSC can do clean battles with top drivers but no so clean with newer generation mid fielders in the picture.
#65
Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:56
#66
Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:31
Yesterday, he probably said good-bye in the, in my opinion, most beautiful way a racing driver can say good-bye: with outstanding wheel-to-wheel driving.

simply beautiful.
#67
Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:34

#68
Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:51
All the best, King of F1.
#69
Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:06
He never was the kind of driver I like (I prefer non-political drivers), but 7 championships aren't won by pure luck.
Yesterday, he probably said good-bye in the, in my opinion, most beautiful way a racing driver can say good-bye: with outstanding wheel-to-wheel driving.
simply beautiful.
That was a great moment. I watched it on the Austrian TV ORF ( which is surprisingly balanced, perhas a reaction to Red Bull Servus TV ) to avoid RAIs Ferrari 1 show and you could feel how an ex-driver like Wurz enjoyed and appreciated that hard but fair battle.
Schumi will be missed

Edited by H2H, 26 November 2012 - 10:07.
#70
Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:07
As a life long MS fan I don't regret his comeback not for a moment. His presence on the track was just enough for me.
Bye Michael. And thank you for the joy and high emotions you brought for all those 20 years.
I am sure we'll hear about him. Because he's the kind of person who is always up to something.
Or as our folk saying goes "Шило в торба не стои." - "You can't keep an awl in a bag." in literal translation.


So, here we are again.

You'll be missed!
#71
Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:10
I think he will be back. I think someone will pick up the phone in the paddock one day, maybe someone will make a quip or a joke about putting him and his zimmer frame in a car in a couple of years time, and all of a sudden both will take a little bit longer to laugh at the idea.
That ain't gonna happen.....
#72
Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:15
All the best, King of F1.

Good Bye Michael

#73
Posted 26 November 2012 - 22:35
His last race was a nice finishing touch to a truly remarkable racing career.
He brought Formula 1 to Germany and German drivers into Formula 1. Scenes after the race with him, Vettel and Glock posing for a photo were great to watch.
You will be missed, that is certain

#74
Posted 26 November 2012 - 23:18
#75
Posted 26 November 2012 - 23:58
Am I the only person who still secretly hoped for a Schumacher win before the start of the race? It would have been a lovely parting gift. Bernie arranged one for SFW at Barcelona and I hoped he might arrange one for Schumie here.
Anyone think he'll be back as a pundit on the BBC in 2013?
The way he only worked exclusively with German TV media his entire career (I know it was a contract but still) I can't see him working for anyone but. Schumi's English language skills are great but he really is German through and through, that's the feeling I get.
In fact I find him quite abrasive when interviewed by British media.
#76
Posted 27 November 2012 - 00:59
The way he only worked exclusively with German TV media his entire career (I know it was a contract but still) I can't see him working for anyone but. Schumi's English language skills are great but he really is German through and through, that's the feeling I get.
In fact I find him quite abrasive when interviewed by British media.
Well, can you blame Schumacher for that sometimes? Some of the reporters interviews are quite silly.
#77
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:30

I am kind of sad that he couldn't keep his pole in Monaco..I am pretty sure he would've won the rece..
From the article that was posted on the previous page..

Awesome!
Edited by vlado, 27 November 2012 - 03:43.
#78
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:45
#79
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:54
For me he remains the best Formula 1 driver, and it was really nice to see him race for 3 more years. I hope we could still see couple of kart races with him...
I am kind of sad that he couldn't keep his pole in Monaco..I am pretty sure he would've won the rece..
From the article that was posted on the previous page..
Awesome!
I am a firm believer of that also, but he had a fuel pressure issue, that would have been terrible... Leading Monaco, going to win, then car fails, which is what happened to him in Monaco 2000. It would have been a great victory if he pulled it out in the Mercedes.
#81
Posted 18 December 2012 - 15:09
http://www.youtube.c...;v=beS8AVdKHmo#!
Also quite interesting:
http://www.youtube.c...p;v=wYI6PFNDFrg
edit: And a german docu, saying how he was banned from cart races for being so fast or how he took tyres out of the trash can, because they weren't able to afford any new ones.
http://www.youtube.c...;v=b0mPi6Eyhcg#!
Edited by Realyn, 18 December 2012 - 15:13.
#82
Posted 18 December 2012 - 17:22
Amazing to see again where he came from. Not enough money to buy tyres, start in races etc. and still winning almost everywhere he could. The story in which he won with tyres someone else put in a trash can was indeed funny.edit: And a german docu, saying how he was banned from cart races for being so fast or how he took tyres out of the trash can, because they weren't able to afford any new ones.
http://www.youtube.c...;v=b0mPi6Eyhcg#!
#83
Posted 18 December 2012 - 23:33
Ron, the right time was NOW
You should've taken Schumi now, not Perez

#84
Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:40


#85
Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:06
The old Schumacher would have been battling for the title too. This Schumacher wasn't and he stated on TV he didn't want to interfere with a title fight he wasn't involved with. Plus he is obviously on very good terms with Vettel already and didn't want to be involved in denying him a title by crashing into him trying to defend a position that meant nothing to him.
But he did. By gifting the position to Vettel he did interfere, even if it's understandable.
#86
Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:55
But he did. By gifting the position to Vettel he did interfere, even if it's understandable.
I agree
I remember in 1997 the McLaren apparently drivers stayed out of the title fight (had they raced like normal, who know's - MSC and JV may never havbe been close to each other for MSC to move on JV) - in 2008 Massa missed out because the Toyota moved over for Lewham (es, I know different tyres, but like MSC he didn't make it hard..).....(couple of examples off the top of my head)
IMO, you race for yourself and you don't move over for anyone other than your teammate.
Edited by Raelene, 19 December 2012 - 03:59.
#87
Posted 19 December 2012 - 04:17
IMO, you race for yourself and you don't move over for anyone other than your teammate.
Staying out of trouble is also a form of racing for yourself. Not only he avoided an internet explosion [had he collided with SV] but also saved himself time with respect to his direct opponent at the time - Koba.
#88
Posted 19 December 2012 - 05:20
Thanks for showing me the rewards of being a team player while paying attention to all the small details.
All the best to you for the future!!

#89
Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:48
Staying out of trouble is also a form of racing for yourself. Not only he avoided an internet explosion [had he collided with SV] but also saved himself time with respect to his direct opponent at the time - Koba.
sure - sometimes you do have to know when not to fight... it's a thin line I guess. I would have liked a little bit more of a fight ;)
#90
Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:56
Yeah ... not really.because the Toyota moved over for Lewham
http://www.f1fanatic...glocktrulli.gif
People have kinda short memories sometimes.
Explain to me how to make it hard if you lap 20 seconds a lap slower.
Edited by Realyn, 19 December 2012 - 11:58.
#91
Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:59
Fuzzy memory? You should go to sleep earlier mate. Glock fell off the cliff after his dry tyres couldn't cope with an increasing wet track in 2008. I can understand Schumachers decision. It was a very good effort to pull that shitbox back into the points and to go at it in those conditions he would have risked being taken out. That would have created some headlines, Schumacher blamed for countryman Vettel missing out on the title at his goodbye race. And yes, I hoped for more of a fight at that time also!I agree
I remember in 1997 the McLaren apparently drivers stayed out of the title fight (had they raced like normal, who know's - MSC and JV may never havbe been close to each other for MSC to move on JV) - in 2008 Massa missed out because the Toyota moved over for Lewham (es, I know different tyres, but like MSC he didn't make it hard..).....(couple of examples off the top of my head)
IMO, you race for yourself and you don't move over for anyone other than your teammate.