How tall was Graham Hill?
#1
Posted 08 December 2012 - 15:36
#3
Posted 08 December 2012 - 18:36
Edited by garyfrogeye, 08 December 2012 - 18:37.
#4
Posted 08 December 2012 - 18:51
I can check and see if John Sprinzel remembers as he's (was) about 6'3" or 6'4'' himself.
I know the feeling.
I only met Graham once, as a fairly junior member of a seat fitting team at Specialised Mouldings. A TV programme was being made at the same time, I never saw it, but my mum said that I was on-screen for several seconds, no way of recording it back then, at least not in our house. We didn't really speak, GH was very much the star, and didn't he know it, but I was a gangly 6'2" back then, and he seemed to be several inches shorter than me. I tried sitting in the car after the excitement had died down, and the pedals were too close for my lanky legs, even in a bare tub with no seat shell. I'd guess at slightly under 6', though he would have been wearing his race boots, so no heels.
#5
Posted 08 December 2012 - 19:22
I would have said, from personal observation, 5'11 (1.8m)
#6
Posted 08 December 2012 - 19:29
"No question is really daft - although the answers may be. Graham was just a shade under my height, but much stockier that skinny me, so I guess around six two. Bette would surely know."
Aloha John
#7
Posted 08 December 2012 - 19:29
#8
Posted 08 December 2012 - 22:14
* and nary a sign of Lewis there...
#9
Posted 09 December 2012 - 03:42
#10
Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:23
I was 6 foot 2 inches back then, (before I started shrinking).
The first time I sttod next to him I was most surprised to find him to be much shorter than I imagined from photos of the day. I judged then that he was 5 foot 11 inches or a tad shorter.
Regards
Joe
#11
Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:49
#12
Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:39
Honest DCN
#13
Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:09
I was 5ft 11in in my normal slovenly posture and Graham's eyeline I seem to recall was slightly above mine. But he did limp from his old motor-cycling injury
And presumably the Watkins Glen crash of 1969, Doug ?
Edited by GD66, 09 December 2012 - 10:10.
#14
Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:33
I stood next to him on many occassions over several years.
I was 6 foot 2 inches back then, (before I started shrinking).
The first time I sttod next to him I was most surprised to find him to be much shorter than I imagined from photos of the day. I judged then that he was 5 foot 11 inches or a tad shorter.
Regards
Joe
If you change the first line to 'once in the same room as him and exchanged nods', my experience exactly, to the very last inch.
On Graham's leg injuries affecting his walking, having suffered major leg trauma myself, I've taken a particular interest in this, though studying old film & TV was as close as I could get. As far as I could tell, a year or two after his Watkins Glen crash, he was walking pretty normally, certainly more normally than I was at that time, and no-one is better at spotting a limper than a fellow limper.
#15
Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:45
I stood next to him on many occassions over several years.
I was 6 foot 2 inches back then, (before I started shrinking).
The first time I sttod next to him I was most surprised to find him to be much shorter than I imagined from photos of the day. I judged then that he was 5 foot 11 inches or a tad shorter.
Regards
Joe
Yep,5'11" would be his max. height,probaly 5-9 or 5-10,i got his autograph and was speaking to him at the 1968 Warwick Farm Tasman event,i asked him why his Gold Leaf car sat higher than Jim's,he jokeingly replied "because his mechanics didn't know how to set up a car".
#16
Posted 09 December 2012 - 19:12
And presumably the Watkins Glen crash of 1969, Doug ?
Indeed - but before that too, as long as he was racing.
DCN
#17
Posted 09 December 2012 - 23:31
#18
Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:00
My driver's license says 5' 10", although I like to think I'm 5' 11". That puts him at 5' 9"-ish, 5' 8"-ish. Of course we were walking at the time, not standing perfectly upright.
I've seen pics of Graham standing next to JYS, perhaps his height could be determined from one of those.
#19
Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:12
I only saw him once, in the pits at the 1973 Canadian Grand Prix. He was walking down the pits, on his way to somewhere, and I caught up with him and presented my program and pen. He accepted them, signed, and handed them back without pausing or breaking stride. It was my observation then and my memory now that he was a bit shorter than I, shorter by an inch or a bit more. But certainly not a lot shorter.
My driver's license says 5' 10", although I like to think I'm 5' 11". That puts him at 5' 9"-ish, 5' 8"-ish. Of course we were walking at the time, not standing perfectly upright.
I've seen pics of Graham standing next to JYS, perhaps his height could be determined from one of those.
I agree,the only time i spoke to him he had racing boots on and was shorter than my 5'11",i guess with proper heeled shoes on he would be closer to the six foot mark mentioned.
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#20
Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:30
Vince H.
#21
Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:25
#22
Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:33
Probably not a contribution to the OP's desired answer, but here is a video of Hill in a car I hadn't seen him attached to (starts at about 2:15) :
#23
Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:45
That would be so much better if the film had been loaded the right way round ...I'm going to guess the Clymer folks weren't as thorough as this group, and unless they had measured and weighed each driver, they were either taking some crewman's word as represented on the entry form (if available) or filling their own blanks the same way we are.
Probably not a contribution to the OP's desired answer, but here is a video of Hill in a car I hadn't seen him attached to (starts at about 2:15) :
#24
Posted 13 December 2012 - 21:40
Edited by Frank S, 13 December 2012 - 21:42.