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[seahawk]

McLaren, I will stay with them.

[Wade]

When Schumi retired in '06, I didnt really think I would have a fav driver to root for again, but eventually became a Kimi fan.

And when Kimi took time off F1, I thought I would never have another fav again, but Schumi came back.

But now that Schu retired, I'll be going for Kimi and even though I hate Merc, might cheer for Lewis too.

[eronrules]

When Schumi retired in '06, I didnt really think I would have a fav driver to root for again, but eventually became a Kimi fan.

And when Kimi took time off F1, I thought I would never have another fav again, but Schumi came back.

But now that Schu retired, I'll be going for Kimi and even though I hate Merc, might cheer for Lewis too.

you are one opportunistic SOB

btw, KIMI rules

[Jimisgod]

My team allegiance won't change this year because no teams have been sold. I prefer teams whose owners earned their way into F1 by being successful in other formula.

Ferrari : Racing was initial primary business: branched into road cars to fund racing.
McLaren : Racing is primary business
Sauber : Racing is primary business
Williams : Racing is primary business

I don't care for teams who are owned by multi-millionaire playboys/companies who decide they want to own an F1 team as a marketing tool or status symbol.

Red Bull
Lotus
Force India
Mercedes
Toro Rosso
Caterham
Marussia


I'm not very picky about drivers. There are two drivers who I don't care for, but the names are unimportant.

TBH, Lotus is just the Enstone team really. There isn't the continuity of Williams, McLaren or even Sauber (certainly not Ferrari, who have been there since the start), but they have essentially been the same team since 1986. Benetton became Renault, which became Lotus.

I agree with your judgement that most of the upper-management of "Lotus" are the **** you mentioned though.

[PayasYouRace]

TBH, Lotus is just the Enstone team really. There isn't the continuity of Williams, McLaren or even Sauber (certainly not Ferrari, who have been there since the start), but they have essentially been the same team since 1986. Benetton became Renault, which became Lotus.

I agree with your judgement that most of the upper-management of "Lotus" are the **** you mentioned though.

Make that 1981. Toleman became Benetton

[Frank Tuesday]

TBH, Lotus is just the Enstone team really. There isn't the continuity of Williams, McLaren or even Sauber (certainly not Ferrari, who have been there since the start), but they have essentially been the same team since 1986. Benetton became Renault, which became Lotus.

I agree with your judgement that most of the upper-management of "Lotus" are the **** you mentioned though.

I know that most of those teams started out as independents. Lotus started out as Toleman (1977 British Formula Ford), Red Bull as Stewart(1989 British F3), Torro Roso as Minardi (1980 European F2), Force India as Jordan (1981 British F3), Mercedes as Tyrell (1958 F3), and Marussia as Manor (1990 Formula Renault). All of those teams started out in the lower formula and worked their way into F1, before being bought by people/companies that want to be in F1, but don't want to do the hard work that it takes to build a team.

What did Red Bull bring to F1. Only one thing, money. The foundation of Red Bull's success was built by someone else. All Red Bull did is buy someone else's hard work and knowledge. The team, currently known as Red Bull, is 23 years old, of which Red Bull has been the owner for 8. Without those other 15 years, Red Bull would be nothing.

Edited by Frank Tuesday, 14 December 2012 - 14:22.