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Poll: Great Britain v Germany (32 member(s) have cast votes)

Which countries' drivers will get more points?

  1. Great Britain (Hamilton/Button/di Resta/Chilton) (7 votes [21.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.88%

  2. Germany (Vettel/Rosberg/Hulkenberg/Glock) (25 votes [78.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.12%

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#1 joshb

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:25

With Chilton being signed to Marussia, it leaves 4 British and 4 German drivers on the grid for 2013- that's without the small chance Sutil could get a seat.

And 2 of the 4 pairs are teammates (Hamilton/Rosberg and Glock/Chilton), 1 pair both drive for midfield teams (Hulkenberg/di Resta) and 1 pair both drive for a top team (Button/Vettel)

So who do you think will get more points next year?

Personally, I think Glock and Chilton will both get 0- or maybe 1 or 2 on a fluky race result
Hulkenberg and di Resta will probably get about the same
Hamilton will outscore Rosberg
But Vettel will outscore Button by more than Hamilton does to Rosberg

So I'd say a slight edge for the German drivers getting a few more.
Interesting to see what you all think, if I'm allowed this multi driver v multi driver thread!

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#2 SUPRAF1

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:33

With Chilton being signed to Marussia, it leaves 4 British and 4 German drivers on the grid for 2013- that's without the small chance Sutil could get a seat.

And 2 of the 4 pairs are teammates (Hamilton/Rosberg and Glock/Chilton), 1 pair both drive for midfield teams (Hulkenberg/di Resta) and 1 pair both drive for a top team (Button/Vettel)

So who do you think will get more points next year?

Personally, I think Glock and Chilton will both get 0- or maybe 1 or 2 on a fluky race result
Hulkenberg and di Resta will probably get about the same
Hamilton will outscore Rosberg
But Vettel will outscore Button by more than Hamilton does to Rosberg

So I'd say a slight edge for the German drivers getting a few more.
Interesting to see what you all think, if I'm allowed this multi driver v multi driver thread!


That's exactly my thinking too.


#3 Zava

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:37

nice comparison, as both nations will most probably have 1-1 drivers on each of the following levels: top team, no mans land between top and midfield, midfield, backmarkers.

for me it is:
Vettel - RB ~ Button - mclaren, even if the mclaren is a better car, Vettel to outscore Button is a safe bet
Rosberg - mercedes ~ Hamilton - mercedes, even though I support Rosberg I think Hamilton will edge him, but it will be close, and in the region they will be scoring, there are not as big point differences as in the region of Vettel-Button
Hulkenberg - sauber ~ di Resta - force india, see Vettel-Button
Glock - marussia ~ Chilton - marussia, yeah, not the ones who will make the difference.

#4 stanga

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:39

It will be an interesting championship from that point of view. I don't think there will be anything other than German win though, to be honest.

#5 Jimisgod

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:41

nice comparison, as both nations will most probably have 1-1 drivers on each of the following levels: top team, no mans land between top and midfield, midfield, backmarkers.

for me it is:
Vettel - RB ~ Button - mclaren, even if the mclaren is a better car, Vettel to outscore Button is a safe bet
Rosberg - mercedes ~ Hamilton - mercedes, even though I support Rosberg I think Hamilton will edge him, but it will be close, and in the region they will be scoring, there are not as big point differences as in the region of Vettel-Button
Hulkenberg - sauber ~ di Resta - force india, see Vettel-Button
Glock - marussia ~ Chilton - marussia, yeah, not the ones who will make the difference.


:up:

Vettel will outscore Button comfortably, as will Hulk on di Resta. I feel Lewis and Rosberg will be close. Marussia will be lucky to score anything, ever.

#6 santori

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 13:01

If I had to predict an order for the drivers, I'd say

Vettel
Button
Hamilton
Rosberg
Hulkenberg
Di Resta
Glock
Chilton

So probably a small advantage to the Germans.

If Bianchi gets the Force India drive there'll be four Frenchmen, too.

Edited by santori, 18 December 2012 - 13:09.


#7 KavB

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 13:21

Vettel will beat Button without a doubt. Hulkenberg will beat Di Resta if their cars are comparable, but I think Force India are a better team and will produce a superior car next year so who knows. Hamilton and Rosberg will be close, but I think Hamilton will edge it. Glock will beat Chilton but obviously not on points.

German walkover imo! :p

#8 Kingshark

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 13:27

Germany owns Britain here IMO.

#9 apoka

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 13:40

An interesting way to see it. I think that Glock-Chilton, Hulkenberg-Di Resta, Hamilton-Rosberg will be quite similar overall, but I'd think that Vettel outscores Button, although that isn't that clear either. Button as lead driver won't have another bad year and the McLaren was probably the fastest car in 2012 (including the important end of the season as a good indicator for 2013).

Btw. points from 2012:

Germany:

Vettel: 281
Rosberg: 93
Hulkenberg: 63
Glock: 0

Total: 437

They all won against their team mates and are in the same or a similar team now, so I'd expect them to get a similar number of points. Maybe some more for Rosberg and for Vettel the WDC benchmark is, of course, always a difficult goal, so there could be fewer points.

GB:

Hamilton: 190
Button: 188
Di Resta: 46

Total: 424

Hamilton moves to Merc, but I expect them to improve and he is unlikely to have as much bad luck as before. Chilton won't play a role.

Overall, a win more Germany seems more probable.

If Sutil joints FI, they would basically have Di Resta covered (same team), so they would be hard to beat.


#10 ensign14

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 13:40

Germany owns Britain here IMO.

Literally, in the case of Mercedes and (Grossdeutschland) Red Bull.

#11 Brandz07

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 13:43

It's crazy to think that 3 years ago there were 7 Germans and only 2 Brits.

#12 jjcale

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 13:56

How can people be so confident having not yet seen the 2013 cars???

#13 Buttoneer

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 14:05

How can people be so confident having not yet seen the 2013 cars???

Indeed, so...

Interesting to see what you all think, if I'm allowed this multi driver v multi driver thread!

...sorry, no.