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#1 A3

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 11:17

From www.autosport.com :

Camel cigarettes could be on the verge of a Formula 1 return as the main sponsor of the Prost team.

Team sources confirm that talks have been ongoing, but that the deal ‘is perhaps not as close as we’d like to think it was.’ The San Marino Grand Prix at Imola over the weekend of April 13-15 appears the logical place for any announcement, since the cars are still on their ‘flyaway’ to the first three races, and repainting them is virtually impossible while on the road.

The RJ Reynolds-owned brand has been absent from the sport since splitting with Benetton and Williams at the end of the 1993 season. If a deal happens, the cars are likely to appear in predominantly yellow livery, but logic suggests that at least some patriotic French blue would remain in place.

Prost has been urgently searching for major backing since the cessation of its relationship with Gauloises at the end of the 2000 season. The team was backed by the French SEITA tobacco concern for a record 25 years, initially under the Gitanes brand, starting with its Le Mans effort in 1975.

Apart from Peugeot and the Total arrangement that went with the engine deal, Prost also lost Bic, Agfa and Yahoo! at the end of last year. An influx of funds from Pedro Diniz got the team through the winter, but major backing is still required so that the team can keep up with the payments for its Ferrari engines and gearboxes.

It has gained support from PSN and Acer, but the computer company is said to have picked up the valuable naming rights for the Ferrari engine at a bargain basement price. The livery unveiled by the French team in Melbourne, with sidepods adorned only by the Prost name, made it clear that there is plenty of room for extra support.

German media group UFA Sports, which owns 10% of the team, has the job of finding the funds. Prost’s selling point is that it is the only team apart from Minardi which can take on a major sponsor and is in a position to adapt its livery to suit.

Any long-term deal would ultimately be book-ended, since the sport's governing body, the FIA, is set to ban all tobacco advertising in the sport at the end of 2006.

Camel’s previous seven-year spell in F1 involved a string of famous names. It is best remembered for its association with Ayrton Senna and later Nelson Piquet at Lotus in 1987-90.

The company then split its effort between Williams and Benetton in 1991-93, a period that saw World Championships for Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost with the former, and the first successes for Michael Schumacher with the latter.


You can make a good livery with yellow and blue I think. Would be cool to see them back.


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#2 g0nz

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 11:35

I don't know whether it was true, but the pre season rumours were that the prost was going to be sponsored by Stella Artois. I can't see a tobacco sponsor coming into F1 with the ammount of anti tobacco circuits on the race calander!!!

#3 Brackets

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 11:52

Originally posted by g0nz
I don't know whether it was true, but the pre season rumours were that the prost was going to be sponsored by Stella Artois.

Since the British government has decided it does not need yet another foreign company taking over one of their out-of-businesses, and balked Interbrew's (who distributes Stella) takeover plans of Bass, Interbrew stock has rock-bottomed so I do not think they will be up for a major sponsorship deal in F1.

#4 Ali_G

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 11:55

That would be cool. I always loved the William's of the early 90's.

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 12:03

Originally posted by g0nz
I don't know whether it was true, but the pre season rumours were that the prost was going to be sponsored by Stella Artois. I can't see a tobacco sponsor coming into F1 with the ammount of anti tobacco circuits on the race calander!!!


UK, France, Indy (for few teams only) if I am correct.. And you call it a lot? 3 out of 17,

this is still great media for tobacco

and any money to help uncompetitive team become competetive are welcome:smoking:

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 12:04

You know, when I saw words "Camel" and "Prost" in the title, I just had to open this thread to see how Alain was going to fit largish, humped, bad-tempered, water-conserving beasties into the team strategy. I'm all disappointed now.;)


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Posted 21 March 2001 - 14:00

I would welcome the Camel livery back to F1. I thought the best looking cars on the 1990 grid were the Camel Lotuses of Warwick & Donelly. Quite honestly, I wasn't too thrilled when Lotus switched from JPS to Camel in 1987, but the livery looked a lot better in 1988 (I think the bold, dark blue numbers & lettering worked better with the yellow background. In 1987, the blue numbers/letters were outlined in silver).

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#8 SchuMic

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 14:07

Belgian, Spain, Italy, Germany are also to be included in the anti-tobacco countries. These (with France and UK) are members of the EC. But maybe some of these have obtain some "privileges" concerning tobacco advertising.

Concerning the sponsorship by Stella Artois, yes, Interbrew has some troubles with the UK gov about the Bass takeover. The stock had some bad days but it got a little better since Interbrew went into appeal....Whatever the result will be, sure they'll delay any decision. Should Interbrew force to resell Bass, they'll lost lot of money in the deal.

#9 MacFan

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 14:13

Originally posted by g0nz
I can't see a tobacco sponsor coming into F1 with the ammount of anti tobacco circuits on the race calander!!!


Marlboro have just signed their biggest ever sponsorship deal with Ferrari - a last blast before the party ends in 2006. I wouldn't be surprised to see other tobacco companies entering or returning to the sport - it's now or never, and it will be hard for them to get such cost-effective exposure anywhere else.

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 19:46

Originally posted by Draco
You know, when I saw words "Camel" and "Prost" in the title, I just had to open this thread to see how Alain was going to fit largish, humped, bad-tempered, water-conserving beasties into the team strategy. I'm all disappointed now.;)

If only there was some way to store Cognac and/or a fine Cabernet in the humps, I'm sure Jean would go along.

#11 Zawed

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 22:47

Originally posted by A3


You can make a good livery with yellow and blue I think. Would be cool to see them back.


The 89 Tyrells were blue and yellow, sponsored partly by Camel. They looked quite smart. My first thought to Camel returning was why, when the tobacco advertising on cars is going to be cut by 2006. But that is still 5 years away is'nt it? A long time in F1.

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Posted 22 March 2001 - 01:24

I've been a Prost supporter since Alain took over Ligier a couple years ago. he was a great driver and I would really like to see his little team succeed. Its been a disheartening run so far, any new money would be welcome, although in general I'm against tobacco sponsorship.