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#51 jj2728

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 19:40

My biggest problem with the current formula is how restrictive the rule book has become. It stifles the ability to see an assortment of engineering approaches/philosophies that used to be available because there is very little room to work with. Everyone is limited by this which can be good depending on what one wants out of the racing. I'd personally prefer F1 to not continue down the road of being an open-wheel spec series. I miss a lot of the uniqueness the series had once. But that doesn't seem to sell anymore in the 21st century, or the belief is that for anything to be enjoyable in sport, things have to be kept as even as possible among teams.


As I said in another thread, the more things change the more they stay the same. The following was written in MotorSport magazine by one of their scribes:

"While the rationalization of design from a safety angle has been accepted by everyone and governed by writing out the rules in great detail, it also encouraged the the writing of rules to control performance design parameters and this is where the whole idea of rationalization has over-stepped the mark and resulted in the state we are in now....."

The scribe, Denis Jenkinson.
The year.............1976.

Some look back on those years with nostalgia. Speaking for myself, and I've been involved with the sport since the early 60s, I'm fortunate in that I still get quite a bit of enjoyment out of motor racing at all levels. F1, or as I prefer Grand Prix racing, is still the pinnacle. It no no longer will be when the likes of Ferrari leave and venture elsewhere.




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#52 BullHead

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 19:47

It is what it is and I like it. There have been positives and negatives and boring episodes in every era / configuration.

#53 Sakae

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 20:08

As I said in another thread, the more things change the more they stay the same. The following was written in MotorSport magazine by one of their scribes:

"While the rationalization of design from a safety angle has been accepted by everyone and governed by writing out the rules in great detail, it also encouraged the the writing of rules to control performance design parameters and this is where the whole idea of rationalization has over-stepped the mark and resulted in the state we are in now....."

The scribe, Denis Jenkinson.
The year.............1976.

Some look back on those years with nostalgia. Speaking for myself, and I've been involved with the sport since the early 60s, I'm fortunate in that I still get quite a bit of enjoyment out of motor racing at all levels. F1, or as I prefer Grand Prix racing, is still the pinnacle. It no no longer will be when the likes of Ferrari leave and venture elsewhere.

Well put, my compliment.

#54 chumma

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 20:20

:rotfl:

I have standards :kiss:

:up:

#55 oetzi

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 21:13

Some look back on those years with nostalgia. Speaking for myself, and I've been involved with the sport since the early 60s, I'm fortunate in that I still get quite a bit of enjoyment out of motor racing at all levels. F1, or as I prefer Grand Prix racing, is still the pinnacle. It no no longer will be when the likes of Ferrari leave and venture elsewhere.

When?

That's a big 'when'.

Let's hope it's an 'if'.

#56 oetzi

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 21:17

I think that your displeasure is misdirected onto wrong people. Technical staff operates within constrains of specifications imposed upon them. When everyone catches up with technology limits within those restrictions, you have in effect new series in which each team looks like a copy of their rival. Remedy is actually simple; change normative restrictions, unshackle creativity and you might see a car arriving to the finish line 40 sec adrift from P2, rather than 2 sec as we see often these days. I think that would be exciting to watch.

I have no displeasure regarding the technical staff - I think they are incredibly talented, dedicated and creative people.

It just so happens that I think they are so good at their jobs that the sport has become so over-analysed (from the inside out) that it's on the verge of being uninteresting.

Not everyone will agree :)

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 13:12

I miss the F1 of '90s, when I started to watch F1. Back then, technical retirements were more common, cars were like racing cars should be, made to be as fast as possible over the race distance, and sometimes the race distance was too long for them. Now with those longlife engines and gearboxes, and engine homologation, it's more likely you can drive four races with one engine than it was in '90s to drive one race with one engine.

And even worse is the way they've tried to make results more random with crappy tires.

#58 boldhakka

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 13:24

I wish my customers were bored by excellence.

#59 Paco

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 14:16

Since when is the direction F1 should take about moving away from "team" to "driver". 1st it would be dangerous for a driver not to be able to get communications from the pit.. What if the team saw something that indicated the engine was about to blow or a tire ... Endangers the driver and everyone else around him on track... Stupid idea.

The only 2 options would be a budget limit but that unenforceable as to easy to circumvent. The other is to open the rule book to allow for technical innovations so even a back marker could make a leap up the grid by innovation versus just minor tweaks as we see today.

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#60 Paco

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 14:21

Also, get rid of this silly notion of long life engines and other components. With ridiculous reliability comes boredom and lack of innovation as things are built like tanks.. Who wants to watch a bunch of tanks go round n round..