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[SR388]

Chevy:





Ford:





Toyota:

[Deluxx]

I want to say Ford, but that Aston tribute grill :/

Chevy is ok, toyota looks like.. well a camry..


I'm undecided I just miss dodges tho T_T

[SR388]

I want to say Ford, but that Aston tribute grill :/

Chevy is ok, toyota looks like.. well a camry..


I'm undecided I just miss dodges tho T_T

I dunno. It looked great when it came out. But now....

[Afterburner]

The Ford, merely because I like the almost-paradoxical idea of an Aston Martin mutated into a stock car.

[tjkoyen]

I like the Fusion the best.

The Camry looks like this:

[tabovilla]

^^

[Owen]

Ford. Let's face it they're the only one of those manufacturers that actually cares about design too any degree.

[Tenmantaylor]

The Ford is the only one that looks like it's been designed in the last 10 years to my (European) eyes. Could argue t's as much a Mitsubishi / Mustang tribute than an Aston tribute although I agree the legacy of the grill proportions goes way back with Aston.

Edited by Tenmantaylor, 22 February 2013 - 09:30.

[Jackmancer]

Meh - I think they're pretty equally boring.

[SonnyViceR]

Meh - I think they're pretty equally boring.

Probably because they are all spec cars with some minimal body panel tweakings and engine differences.

And why cannot they ever get rid of the sticker "headlights"...

Edited by SonnyViceR, 22 February 2013 - 09:52.

[Jackmancer]

Probably because they are all spec cars with some minimal body panel tweakings and engine differences.

And why cannot they ever get rid of the sticker "headlights"...

Yeh I understand - also the V8 Supercars look a bit meh ,especially compared to DTM.

[eronrules]

Yeh I understand - also the V8 Supercars look a bit meh ,especially compared to DTM.

if you're looking for real striking beauties in Tin-top racing, nothing beats SuperGT of japan

[Jackmancer]

if you're looking for real striking beauties in Tin-top racing, nothing beats SuperGT of japan

I know ;P My fav car in GT5
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2012...GT)_'06.jpg

[MirNyet]

Are the lights decals?

[gm914]

Are the lights decals?

Yes of course. No need for real lights, they add weight and would be a nightmare for debris.

Added-

Here's a shot of the Chevy in 'naked' testing form

Edited by gm914, 22 February 2013 - 14:50.

[discover23]

Ford. The Cevy is almost identical to the COT.

[MirNyet]

Yes of course. No need for real lights, they add weight and would be a nightmare for debris.

Added-

Here's a shot of the Chevy in 'naked' testing form

So all of the front is a molded piece. Steel or fibreglass?

[UPRC]

The Chevrolet and Toyota do nothing for me. The Ford, though? That's a pretty car.

[gm914]

Ford. The Cevy is almost identical to the COT.

Huh?

COT


GEN 6

Edited by gm914, 22 February 2013 - 15:16.

[SonnyViceR]

Yes of course. No need for real lights, they add weight and would be a nightmare for debris.

They want these cars to resemblence more actual road cars, ie be stock cars... I mean that's what NASCAR public relations department and TV broadcasts are trying to say to us all the time, that this Gen 6 is closer to that. Yet they cannot even have such simple thing as headlights.

Okay, my personal level of interest which is sportscar racing is different as there on top of everything else you actually need the headlights to see where you are going in the dark as well as to make signals to other cars (plus there's generally less contact as well), but look at touring cars - all of them have headlights in every series I know of. Those S2000 cars in WTCC and BTCC never run in the dark and the races are only like 20 minute long, but they still have the lights. And they tend to crash into each other nearly as often as these medieval technology NSC tube frames.

Look at the V8 Supercars. Tech wise it's as close as it gets to NASCAR run on road courses (minus Grand-Am of course), ie despite the minor bodywork changes the cars are nearly identical in spec and they move around like big ocean cruisers. Yet they still have headlights, albeit tiny ones and often covered under sponsor stickers. But still

Edited by SonnyViceR, 22 February 2013 - 15:41.

[gm914]

Ovals. Different.
Debris doesn't always slide down to the apron, and will often get stuck on the top groove/racing line. Can you imagine racing at Darlington where the drivers are tapping the walls on purpose?
Every contact would likely smash a headlight or taillight, and they'd be on constant cleanup. Otherwise, hell of a lot of busted tires.

[SR388]

They want these cars to resemblence more actual road cars, ie be stock cars... I mean that's what NASCAR public relations department and TV broadcasts are trying to say to us all the time, that this Gen 6 is closer to that. Yet they cannot even have such simple thing as headlights.

Okay, my personal level of interest which is sportscar racing is different as there on top of everything else you actually need the headlights to see where you are going in the dark as well as to make signals to other cars (plus there's generally less contact as well), but look at touring cars - all of them have headlights in every series I know of. Those S2000 cars in WTCC and BTCC never run in the dark and the races are only like 20 minute long, but they still have the lights. And they tend to crash into each other nearly as often as these medieval technology NSC tube frames.

Look at the V8 Supercars. Tech wise it's as close as it gets to NASCAR run on road courses (minus Grand-Am of course), ie despite the minor bodywork changes the cars are nearly identical in spec and they move around like big ocean cruisers. Yet they still have headlights, albeit tiny ones and often covered under sponsor stickers. But still

Yeah, but V8 supercars also have opening doors and what not. If fake headlights are the thing keeping you off the Gen 6 car I'm afraid you are 30 years too late to NASCAR.

[SR388]

Huh?

COT


GEN 6

It's the WIDTH!!!

It all makes sense now. Racing cars are supposed to be low and wide, just like your auntie!

[SonnyViceR]

Yeah, but V8 supercars also have opening doors and what not. If fake headlights are the thing keeping you off the Gen 6 car I'm afraid you are 30 years too late to NASCAR.

It's not the lights or any other nitpick detail that's keeping me away (as you said it's nothing new), but generally the continuing SPEC nature of these cars and the way the series keeps putting drivers faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar ahead in importance.

But yes you are right about the doors and whatnot regarding V8s, but generally speaking it is the touring car version of NASCAR, with less gimmicks of course.

Edited by SonnyViceR, 22 February 2013 - 15:59.

[SR388]

It's not the lights or any other nitpick detail that's keeping me away (as you said it's nothing new), but generally the continuing SPEC nature of these cars and the way the series keeps putting drivers faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar ahead in importance.

But yes you are right about the doors and whatnot regarding V8s, but generally speaking it is the touring car version of NASCAR, with less gimmicks of course.

I think in America though this works. We love characters, and we also have a tremendously short attention span. So we want close racing and we want characters behind the wheel.

[Magoo]

So all of the front is a molded piece. Steel or fibreglass?

Molded composite. The hood and deck lid are composite too starting with Gen 6. The nose and tail piece, aka front and rear fascia, have been molded pieces for a few years now. Once the design is baked in and approved by NASCAR, the piece is assigned an OE part number, which is molded in one or two locations and which NASCAR can then reference in technical inspection.

I don't know this but I wouldn't be surprised if Roush is manufacturing the components for both Ford and Chevrolet. That's where both OEs generally go for this sort of work.

[pingu666]

there actually not always that "spec" under the skin, and the cars setup and parts change alot between qualy and the race.

[Magoo]

one of my favorite decals -- on the back of a Morgan SCCA racer.

[MirNyet]

Molded composite. The hood and deck lid are composite too starting with Gen 6. The nose and tail piece, aka front and rear fascia, have been molded pieces for a few years now. Once the design is baked in and approved by NASCAR, the piece is assigned an OE part number, which is molded in one or two locations and which NASCAR can then reference in technical inspection.

I don't know this but I wouldn't be surprised if Roush is manufacturing the components for both Ford and Chevrolet. That's where both OEs generally go for this sort of work.

Quite surprised at the high sidewalled tires - shame they don't adopt a low profile tire - would look more modern I suppose. So, is there a tub under there, or a frame?

[Deluxx]

How's everyone liking the type of racing these cars have revived so far? I'm curious

[SR388]

How's everyone liking the type of racing these cars have revived so far? I'm curious

I like it. Then again my driver Jeff "Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss" Gordon was fast.


It seems okay. I am looking forward to non-plate races. The fans are complaining though.


My favorite racing was the sort that got Dale Sr. killed though. 3 trains 10 cars deep.

[discover23]

Huh?

from far there is not much difference.

[gm914]

from far there is not much difference.

I see pretty big differences.
Swage lines, wider hips, flared wheel arches, more raked screen, completely different front and rear etc etc
You'd be in the minority if you couldn't distinguish a 2012 from a 2013 on track.
Gen6


COT

Edited by gm914, 22 February 2013 - 17:15.

[SR388]

I see pretty big differences.
Swage lines, flared wheel arches, more raked screen, completely different front and rear etc etc
You'd be in the minority if you couldn't distinguish a 2012 from a 2013 on track.

That's got it.

Edited by SR388, 22 February 2013 - 17:22.

[pingu666]

yeah i liked the angry swarm of bee's pack racing best, tandoms second, but the dross of "look we fixed tandems" single file tedium was the worst.

[Nobody]

The Commodore

[gm914]

yeah i liked the angry swarm of bee's pack racing best, tandoms second, but the dross of "look we fixed tandems" single file tedium was the worst.

Hey we still have NCTWS and NNS for plate-track tandem shenanigans.

"Here boys, go learn a completely new style of driving in these here lower ranks, so one day you can utilize those skills in a Cup car!"

[Afterburner]

If that's not concept art, then the Mustang line has just found a new fan.