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[NYR2119935]

Tonight on the Jay Leno show Sylvester Stallone announced that the new racing movie Driven is dedicated to Greg Moore, Ayrton Senna, and Dale Earnhardt.

Thnk you Sylvester Stallone. You are a true gentleman.

[MattFoster]

nice touch Sly!

[pa]

Just saw the meathead on the Tonight Show. In what many will interpret as a cynical sleazeball marketing move, he announced that his movie "Driven" will be dedicated to the memory of "Arton (sic) Senna, Greg Moore, and Dale Earnhardt". Then they showed some idiotic clip of Sly and some kid racing champ cars down University Avenue in Toronto at night -- in traffic. When Stalone catches the kid, they argue about some girl. Booooooo! Shame!

[Greg L]

I think maybe Sly gets a bad rap in the media. In interviews, he has always struck me as a very friendly, courteous, and respectful man. I hope Driven turns out to be a good movie . . .

[Greg L]

Maybe, just maybe, Sly actually respected Senna, Moore, and Earnhardt, and didn't mention their names just as a marketing move. Man, Sly tries to do something nice, and look what happens.

[pa]

Hey, pal, d'you think maybe the fact that he couldn't pronouce "Ayrton" might be a giveaway? C'mon!

[pa]

I have heard many stories from several racer friends of mine who were extras on the Toronto set of Driven that Sly Stallone is an incurable asshole.

[The Kanisteri]

Sorry but no cigar!
Just words, I think Sly even don't know who they are or were.

[NYR2119935]

Originally posted by The Kanisteri
Sorry but no cigar!
Just words, I think Sly even don't know who they are or were.

I think you are wrong on this one....

[NYR2119935]

chill out Pa.......Stallone really is interested and does care and does know some about racing.

wow Katie Holmes is hot

[P1 Pyrsol]

[P1 Pyrsol]

;)

[Ivan]

People here argue about the dumbest things.
Have you ever listened to Sly speak, he has a very weird accent with a thick baritone.
I'm a Senna fan and it took me a while to say it correctly. For him to just mention it, is good enough for me.
What's sad is that the movie will suck. To bad he and Bernie couldn't get along, I'd like to see a new F1 movie. I'm wearing out my copy of Grand Prix.

[NYR2119935]

Driven will have some F1 sounds so that should make all the F1 fans happy right?

[Option1]

Oh I think he knows who they are right enough. He became something of an F1 groupie when he was trying to get F1 to support and be the scenario for his movie. He switched to using a CART scenario when F1 basically wouldn't bend over and drop it's trousers for him.

However, I think he's saying "nice" things at the moment just to market his flick. Spin-doctoring lives!

[Option1]

As cynical as I may be about Stallone's motives, I certainly don't think an inability to pronounce the word "Ayrton" is relevant. I have a ton of respect for Senna, but I still wouldn't trust myself to pronounce his name correctly.

[NYR2119935]

it's better than nothing right?????????????

When was the last time Moore and Senna were mentioned on American mainstream tv???

Been a while.

We should thank Stallone for even just that.

[Cinquecento]

So how do you pronounce it? I've heard the British use two different pronounciations: Airton and Ay-earton. I wonder if either is correct.

[Mr. Salty]

LMAO!!

Reduced to defending Stallone!

Lessee,

How many permutations are there for Senna?

I-ARE-TON

I-eer-TEN

AIRTON

AYRETOON

GOD IS GREAT, BUT I AM BETTER...hehehehe

Oops, that's just the way I remember the arrogant little smuck, sorry...


Who cares?

Oh, pa? How do you pronounce your nick?

"Pah"?

"PEE AAA"?

"paw"?

I'll put this idiotic thread in the "People with nothing to do or bitch about, so they create a problem and hope other weak minded people join them" file.

;)

[gerry nassar]

I think we shouldnt be so cynical! I doubt the movie will be that good - although i will go and see it - any racing movie will do. Stallone probably is sincere while at the same time marketing his film - killing two birds with one stone!

NYR - the last time Moore was mentioned on a late nite show that im aware of is on Letterman while speaking to Montoya in Late 99 and Senna was mentioned just before the US Gp in 2000 also on Letterman while he was talking to Eddie Irvine. Just some trivia!

What im disapointed in not seeing is the Senna movie which was talked about a few years ago. It was supposed to be directed by Rene Harlin and possibly star Antonio Banderas but nothing ever happened.

[P1 Pyrsol]

Originally posted by Mr. Salty
LMAO!!

I'll put this idiotic thread in the "People with nothing to do or bitch about, so they create a problem and hope other weak minded people join them" file.

;)

including the two of us?

[AyePirate]

I saw the "Driven" trailer for the first time a couple of weeks
back. Gee, they really loved hurling tumbling CG champcars
directly at the camera. They must've feature 5 variations
on the theme in the trailer. It looks like it'll be like the
last Stallone/Harlin effort "Cliffhanger", good to great action
sequences brought to a screaching halt by (unintentially) funny bad dialogue and a hamfisted story line. I'll probably see
it although I have very low expectations.

The plot sounds suspiciously like Rocky IV, except Rocky
drives a Champcar.

[speedy]

Stallone's movies would be better if he'd shut up completely - I can't help laughing when he opens his mouth, such a voice from a man, the looks and voice are not in sync:p

Harjola has never been directing dialogues - action movie built around Sly to be expected.

[JPMCrew]

Oh, Yeah!! Stallone just showed his true colors...

That bastard... How dares he be a Senna fan

And how dares he make a racing film

He surely deserves to be crucified

[RJL]

I didn't realize they needed curing...

[RJL]

I notice there are now three Stallone threads on the BB. Man we need some F1 news bad.

[cosmoK]

While I think Stallone is perhaps sincere, if he really wanted to dedicate the film it should be to everyone who gave his life on a racetrack doing something he loved, be it a driver, marshall or whatever.

[Dsilence]

Rambo rules.. ;)

[The Kanisteri]

Go Rambo! Go!

[JPMCrew]

Folks, this is not going to be a documentary or even compete with French films, so I think the "lack of dialog" criticism is a little out of place here

Common!! What are acknowledged to be two of the greatest racing films ever by most fans, Grand Prix and Lemans, weren't exactly Oscar material as far as script and acting were concerned.

All I'm hoping for is really great footage and really great sound!

[Tedminator]

Originally posted by RJL
I notice there are now three Stallone threads on the BB. Man we need some F1 news bad.

hell, atleast there is some F1 news and races. CART went to sleep for 4 weeks.. and the season just began!

T

PS
Stallone has a medical problem with a facial muscle.. it affects his apperance and speech.

[Tedminator]

It was ok ..Stallone seemed nervous, but knowledgable. Race fan with the means to make a movie.. fine by me. I rather he buy into a CART team tho

His reference to Greg Moore's accident as happening 'last year' was inaccurate.

He should try the Charlie Rose show next, it's a more relaxed environment. Or perhaps those sports channel talk shows.. atleast they can rap about boxing instead of oscar awards

[schumilover]

Originally posted by Cinquecento
So how do you pronounce it? I've heard the British use two different pronounciations: Airton and Ay-earton. I wonder if either is correct.

Ai-yair-ton is the closest i can come to the brazilian,perhaps peaq can learn us all.

[silver fan]

Originally posted by Mr. Salty


GOD IS GREAT, BUT I AM BETTER...hehehehe

How long before Ray rips you a new ass?;)

[coyoteBR]

Actually, I think close to Brasilian is Aeeh're-tom
Speaking of that, it's "Guh-jel-mim"; "Cris-tee-ah-no dah Mah-ta", "En-reek-key Bernoldi", ...

[Williams]

Well look at it this way. If Stallone film should by by some cosmic stroke of luck actually be moderately successful, perhaps somebody who actually knows how to make a good film might find it worthwhile to do another, better, one about motor racing. So go see it !

(Disclaimer - this member has no shares or interest in the Stallone movie)

Anyway, until I actually see the film, I'll reserve judgement. JPMCrew makes a good point, it might actually be really well shot with some good racing sequences. That in itself would be worth putting up with a terrible script.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by coyoteBR
Actually, I think close to Brasilian is Aeeh're-tom
Speaking of that, it's "Guh-jel-mim"; "Cris-tee-ah-no dah Mah-ta", "En-reek-key Bernoldi", ...

Strange... I always think it was:
Ayrton Senna da Silva, Mauricio Gugelmin, Cristiano da Mata, Enrique Berlnodi

But the best I heard until now is the ESPN commentator saying:
Emerson Fittipaldi

because of that they are "Emmo" and "Big Mo"

but, they can't say our words correctly! and we can't say theirs! we can't, they can't! what's the problem? it didn't matter at all

It's fine to me! I think our TV commentators aren't speaking MS, MH, HHF, and all the others correctly too

[Ali_G]

From what I can see this is just a ploy by the movie makers to try to lure F1 and NASCAR fans who might be turned away by the fact its not based around their favorite racing series. Anyone else agree.

Niall

[Davebo]

I can't wait until he hit's the David Letterman show.;)

Letterman is a big-time racing fan - it'll be a good test of what Rambone really knows!

[NYR2119935]

Stallone will be on Letterman in early to mid April.

[AbnormalAnimal]

Stallone is only making the movie about cart because Bernie told him to f. off
Or so I heard!

[Davebo]

Originally posted by NYR2119935
Stallone will be on Letterman in early to mid April.

[Flash]

Originally posted by Davebo
I can't wait until he hit's the David Letterman show.;)

Letterman is a big-time racing fan - it'll be a good test of what Rambone really knows!

Well because of that big-time racing fan he is, he decided to partner in the Rahal Cart team. BTW the interview he made with Coulthard was great.

[Dudley]

What about ratzenbereger?

rodrieguez?

No we just mention the famous ones to draw in fans. far better would be "those who have died in racing"

I stopped caring about driven the second I saw champ cars on the road. At that point I decided it could **** off.

[Pink Panther]

Quite frankly, it looked like a marketing stunt.

He mentioned their names (and miss-pronunced Ayrton), but even worst he could not explain why these drivers should be rememebered and respected. He tried to get into an explanation and then assumed people wouldn't understand, but considering Greag Moore and Dale are extremely popular in the US, I wonder if instead he had any cloue why these guys should be remembered....and how perfectly PC, an F1 driver, a CART driver and a NASCAR driver.....hey folks, no matter what you follow, Mr. Sly understands you......

[NYR2119935]

You DOLT........Greg Moore was not that popular in the US.
His death didn't make the news here in NYC, but when Earnhardt died we had round the clock coverage.

I think what Stallone did was a great gesture and that's that.

[Rich]

I take my hat off to Sylvester Stallone, he's the epitome of the saying 'Success is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration'. He wasn't given any great natural gifts, and the paralysis on one side of his face is a terrible handicap for an actor. Yet despite that drawback he still turned himself into one of the world's top movie stars. I have to respect that, the guy has certainly earned his fame.

Regarding his quote, he's damned either way. When he mentions deceased drivers, he's slammed as a Hollywood arsehole who is doing it for marketing purposes. If he hadn't mentioned anything, he'd be slammed as a Hollywood arsehole who doesn't even know enough about racing to realise that Senna, Earnhardt and Moore are dead. Kind of a no-win situation for the guy.

I suspect 'Driven' will be poor, just like every other racing movie has been. If Stallone makes a movie that appeals to the hardcore fans, he's playing to a small minority and losing the bigger audience. If he aims the movie towards the general public, hardcore fans will slam it as being 'fake' or 'unrealistic'. Again, a no-win situation. Motor racing and other highly-specialised professional sports don't make good subjects for movies. Boxing is perhaps the sole exception.

[NYR2119935]

you are so thick skulled aren't you

[Pink Panther]

Moore might have not been so popular in the US at large, but he was extremely popular to CART fans. And that is Sly's target....;)

[JayWay]

Your calling Rich thick skulled?????