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#1 Timstr11

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 06:51

The F1 live timing service has deteriorated considerably the last couple of years with frequent outages.
I recently purchased the 30 euro official LT app and it looks like we will be getting the same frequent outages.
The data source is the same by I don;t care about that.
I feel that FOM is showing a huge disdain disdain to fans with such a crappy service. It really pisses me off.
FOM seems mostly concerned with filling CVCs pockets, instead of investing in LT.

Shoudn't we start a petition? Let outselves be heard as paying consumers?

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#2 undersquare

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:04

Completely agree it's incredible how in F1 of all places the timing is so shoddy and undeveloped. Live timing has always been flaky and never seems to improve, and is so basic.

On TV we spent the whole FP with useless static fastest times taking up 20% of the screen and now at the end of the sessions what do we have? The fastest single lap of each driver. No stint data, no tyre data, none of the data that the teams are using.

Kruvas gives us so much more in Winter testing and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

It just nails Bernie as a market trader who got lucky, afaic. Roll on the day someone with a brain takes over.

#3 Shiroo

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:13

billions involved yet they cant create web application that will be as good as some private sites... insane.

#4 Wingcommander

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:17

+1

I get the feeling it's all just Bernie's evil plan to get us buy the softpauer app. The desktop livetiming has been around for...10 years? And imo it hasnt changed at all. And still after all these years it doesnt seem to work half the time. It's the same problems year after year. The mobile app is apparently quite good, but because softpauer have an exclusive deal with fom, they get to control on which platforms the app is offered.

#5 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:24

+1

I get the feeling it's all just Bernie's evil plan to get us buy the softpauer app. The desktop livetiming has been around for...10 years? And imo it hasnt changed at all. And still after all these years it doesnt seem to work half the time. It's the same problems year after year. The mobile app is apparently quite good, but because softpauer have an exclusive deal with fom, they get to control on which platforms the app is offered.



I have a stupid question, I watch F1 to 99% at home and livetiming on my laptop and/or desktop computer. Why is this Pauer app not for a normal computer??? Why do I have to use my mobile phone, I m not at the track or not in the bus or in the bar(maybe it would be useful there).
What is this?
Standard livetiming is very basic even when it run prperly.

#6 Lights

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:44

I have a stupid question, I watch F1 to 99% at home and livetiming on my laptop and/or desktop computer. Why is this Pauer app not for a normal computer??? Why do I have to use my mobile phone, I m not at the track or not in the bus or in the bar(maybe it would be useful there).
What is this?
Standard livetiming is very basic even when it run prperly.

Because then they'd find a way for you to pay for it.

Now be a good boy and sit down while enjoying your free live timing when it works.

#7 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:50

Because then they'd find a way for you to pay for it.

Now be a good boy and sit down while enjoying your free live timing when it works.



thanks for your info!

#8 dau

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 10:07

I have a stupid question, I watch F1 to 99% at home and livetiming on my laptop and/or desktop computer. Why is this Pauer app not for a normal computer??? Why do I have to use my mobile phone, I m not at the track or not in the bus or in the bar(maybe it would be useful there).
What is this?
Standard livetiming is very basic even when it run prperly.

Try this one: http://f1lt.pl/


#9 Clatter

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:11

billions involved yet they cant create web application that will be as good as some private sites... insane.


But they are damn quick in getting those sites closed down. If I were in their shoes I'd be making those guys an offer.

#10 Bloggsworth

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:44

Live timing runs under a very old version of Java - There are no plans to update it, they don't even reply to emails, well, at least, not to the ten or so I've sent them...

#11 GodHimself

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:20

Isn't it running on 1.6? If so it isn't old at all.

#12 helioseism

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 14:03

The live pauer app also did not work for FP2.

#13 Bloggsworth

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 14:44

Isn't it running on 1.6? If so it isn't old at all.


I didn't say what you were running - Live timing keeps wanting to download old versions, so I deduce that it is set up for an older version than current - Last weekend Java downloaded an update and Live Timing resembled the wall of Tutenkamun's tomb; I had to uninstall the new version to get LT to run.

#14 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 14:52

I didn't say what you were running - Live timing keeps wanting to download old versions, so I deduce that it is set up for an older version than current - Last weekend Java downloaded an update and Live Timing resembled the wall of Tutenkamun's tomb; I had to uninstall the new version to get LT to run.



big LOL, :stoned: the egyptian version of LT is funky indeed.

#15 SunnyENTP

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 14:55

The F1 live timing service has deteriorated considerably the last couple of years with frequent outages.
I recently purchased the 30 euro official LT app and it looks like we will be getting the same frequent outages.
The data source is the same by I don;t care about that.
I feel that FOM is showing a huge disdain disdain to fans with such a crappy service. It really pisses me off.
FOM seems mostly concerned with filling CVCs pockets, instead of investing in LT.

Shoudn't we start a petition? Let outselves be heard as paying consumers?



If you want to be heard dont spend any more money on their products.

#16 Timstr11

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 18:39

If you want to be heard dont spend any more money on their products.

Watching an F1 race without decent timing is not much fun. I bought the Soft Paue app on impulse as the web version was playing up.

#17 ZuTiMa

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 18:43

Was the Soft Pauer app working while the LT was not working?

#18 peterr

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 19:17

It's really incredible how underestimated the potential of www is in f1 business today. Not only crappy LT, it could offer so much more to engage with the fans, like live streaming (could be geo limited, session limited, for replay only, etc., so that all parties in different countries are satisfied), f1 gaming, social networking, ... and they could use all this as a platform where f1 sponsors could get direct access to the fans, etc. This as just some of the things, I believe that a pro marketing firm could find many ways how to use www for the benefit of the f1 business and the sport. Well, maybe we can't expect a 80+ year old to understand this potential.


#19 Timstr11

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 19:34

Was the Soft Pauer app working while the LT was not working?

They were both not working for an extended time today.

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#20 mkoscevic

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 19:49

The desktop livetiming has been around for...10 years? And imo it hasnt changed at all. And still after all these years it doesnt seem to work half the time. It's the same problems year after year.


Couldn't agree more.

Live Timing and formula1.com haven't improved much since the early 2000s.

F1 in general is sometimes surprisingly ******** regarding application of technology.

#21 hulmerist

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 19:50

i finally relented and got the official app this year and i'm very impressed (aside from today's outage obviously)

one of the best pieces of info you get is where it not only tells you which set of tyres a driver is on but how many laps that set of tyres has on it already from practice and quali, then you also get more accurate timing to 3 decimal places and top speeds at each timing sector as well

if you average out the cost over the season it's really not that much for all the info you get

#22 Kelateboy

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 05:00

The gremlins hit Live Timing again! :mad:

#23 pusko

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 05:07

F1LT

#24 Xeriks

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 05:08

F1LT is working fine!