I am not sure about Schumacher Mk I
Schumacher Mk II would have held station IMO.
Your "Auf Wiedersehen Mercedes OMG" seems to be reciprocated by the Mercedes F1 Team. We see them again in 2013 - stronger than ever before....
Posted 25 March 2013 - 16:25
I am not sure about Schumacher Mk I
Schumacher Mk II would have held station IMO.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 16:26
One thing is clear now: Vettel is gonna be the new Schumacher in all respects and he is already hated for it in many quarters.
Nico, on the other hand, is an excellent professional - well, he is German as well, but with Finnish genes....
Posted 25 March 2013 - 16:29
Desperate for a podium comeback Schumacher would have passed Hamilton in a second.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 16:36
Posted 25 March 2013 - 16:37
Schumacher (Ralf) did it at Spa 98.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 16:45
Schumi is a man of his word who doesn't behave in hypocritical and short-sighted "do me a favor but I won't do you any" manner.
That leaves us only to conclude that the OP brought him up just 'cause he's one of the plenty garden variety racist Limey bigots here who hate Germans.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 16:53
Two words: technical team.Your "Auf Wiedersehen Mercedes OMG" seems to be reciprocated by the Mercedes F1 Team. We see them again in 2013 - stronger than ever before....
Wrong again. Schumacher Mk II would have been smart enough to slam ahead of Hamilton in the second DRS zone, instead of being retaken by Lewis like 89172 times in the second zone before getting the order to stay back. It was incomprehensible what Nico was doing there, he had him already in the pocket but that was his only mistake yesterday.
So the reverse of Sbaro's opinion: Schumacher Mk I would not have done it, he was successful enough and could be magnanimous. Schumacher Mk II was desperate enough and would have overtaken Hamilton in an instant.
Anyway, apart from this little aside, Michael had many things not going for his personality, but he was always a man of his word.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 17:19
Posted 25 March 2013 - 18:43
I think that he would do the same as Rosberg. Now, had you ask the same question twenty years ago, I could see his mind being closer to Vettel.Had Schumacher been driving the No. 9 car instead of Rosberg today, would he had a) made a move, b) made it stick and c) passed Hamilton today? Would he had come on the radio to ask for permission, or he would have simply made a move, fair and skilled-fully?
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 18:43
Posted 25 March 2013 - 18:45
I concur.We have evidence of Schuey moving over for team mates for the good of the team. Is there any evidence at all that he would not have done the same as Nico?
We also have evidence that Michael benefited from team orders, and was clearly highly embarrassed about the whole thing. And my god has he copped a lot of **** from some of you for that. When another driver gets the rub of team orders and is embarrassed about it, the whole board says what a class act. Funny thing.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 18:52
Posted 25 March 2013 - 18:56
You simply don't get the meaning, my friend. I know it's worth nothing but they don't have my support anymore. Even less after yesterday. I felt very sorry for Nico, who worked for three long years with the hope that one day the effort will pay back with a car he (and Schu) deserved. Only to find that all those efforts are for the benefit of another man.Your "Auf Wiedersehen Mercedes OMG" seems to be reciprocated by the Mercedes F1 Team. We see them again in 2013 - stronger than ever before....
Posted 25 March 2013 - 18:57
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 20:09
Schumi would've been 20sec down the road, he never would've even had the choice. Whenever the car was working he was nowhere near Rosberg.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 20:12
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Schumi would've been 20sec down the road, he never would've even had the choice. Whenever the car was working he was nowhere near Rosberg.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 20:15
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 21:56
Please tell me, in your own words, how Malaysia worked out last year for the Mercedes drivers.
Posted 25 March 2013 - 21:59
The car worked also well in Monaco. Guess, who got Pole and might have won without a penalty and a DNF?Going back to the question, I don't think Malaysia 99 is a valid example because Schumacher was out of the WDC and Irvine still had a very good chance to win it. Nevertheless, Schumi was a total team player and he would've obeyed the teams wishes. He has too much class to do something as pathetic as what Vettel did.
I can tell you that Rosberg was half a second faster in China (when the car worked well, which was my point).
Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:09
And again, since everybody is missing the clue :/
This is surprising, I was thinking about it already today. What springs to mind is this: Malaysia 1999, Brazil 2002, Monza 2003, Brazil 2010. In all cased Schumacher stepped aside for the team and his teammate. I suspect this is a no-brainer after all, have a good feeling he would have stayed back but maybe made a stronger case for himself over the team radio.
Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:17
Not sure why the OP even brought up Schumacher.
He's not the person that comes to mind when I'm thinking of disregard for explicit agreements and team orders. Schumi is a man of his word who doesn't behave in hypocritical and short-sighted "do me a favor but I won't do you any" manner. Always been a team player.
Schumacher I and II whatever other fantasmical variety he exists.
That leaves us only to conclude that the OP brought him up just 'cause he's one of the plenty garden variety racist Limey bigots here who hate Germans.
Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:21
Going back to the question, I don't think Malaysia 99 is a valid example because Schumacher was out of the WDC and Irvine still had a very good chance to win it. Nevertheless, Schumi was a total team player and he would've obeyed the teams wishes. He has too much class to do something as pathetic as what Vettel did.
I can tell you that Rosberg was half a second faster in China (when the car worked well, which was my point).
Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:26
The moment I saw Rosberg going for it in the first DRS Zone just to be re-taken in the second DRS Zone made me think that this is the difference between the fast drivers and the champions. Schumacher would have made that stick by being smart enough to be just behind Hamilton at the second detection point. I just could not believe it it was so obvious.
After being told to hold position he would have done so. He was always pro team order and he showed it many times on track that he will obey them too.
Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:36
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:32
Well, about 2) I would say it has to do with the car and tyres and the W04 seems to behaving much better than the W03 in that aspect. So it would have been possible.Most the above post assume Schumacher would (1) Have got through Q2, (2) Have not destroyed his tyres (3) Be near enough Hamilton to challenge him, based on his previous form in the (attempted) comeback years taking a very generous view he might just have manage two out of three.
As it was we had a chance to see a German driver Rosberg lay down his mark against Hamilton and doing it in way that contrasted with Vettel's red mist pass of his team mate.
Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:21
Edited by RichardF1fan, 26 March 2013 - 11:26.