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#1 Cavani

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 21:54

according to @f1talks

f1talks.pl ‏@f1talks 1h

According to blogf1.it James Allison is no longer @Lotus_F1Team Technical Director - http://www.f1talks.p...-zespol-lotusa/ #F1

f1talks.pl ‏@f1talks 2h

Nicholas Chester will be new Lotus F1 Team Technical Director. #F1

usually this kind of rumours turns out to be right

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#2 onewingedangel

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 21:57

So - Ferrari, McLaren or elsewhere?

#3 charly0418

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 21:57

Probably going to McLaren

#4 yoyogetfunky

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 22:02

Good move Ferrari!

If they dont... WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU GUYS IN MARANNELLO!!!

#5 rhukkas

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 22:10

big kick in the nuts for lotus if true

#6 CookinFlatSix

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 22:21

Probably heading to Mercedes :rotfl:

#7 TheThirdTenor1

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 22:21

Surely on his way to Mclaren.

Don't see him at Ferrari - he's already had a stint at Maranello and i doubt he'd want any position lower than Technical Director (and Pat Fry is quite secure in his position IMO).

#8 MP422

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 22:36

Probably heading to Mercedes :rotfl:


Lmao :up:

#9 Myrvold

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 23:20

There's a part of me that actually screams "Williams" O.o

#10 Seanspeed

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 00:18

Surely on his way to Mclaren.

Don't see him at Ferrari - he's already had a stint at Maranello and i doubt he'd want any position lower than Technical Director (and Pat Fry is quite secure in his position IMO).

Yea, I'm not quite sure where he'd fit in at Ferrari at the moment. They've just gone through a technical reorganization and I would imagine they're fairly happy with the coming results of it.

Mclaren does seem a more obvious bet.

#11 yoyogetfunky

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 00:22

Yea, I'm not quite sure where he'd fit in at Ferrari at the moment. They've just gone through a technical reorganization and I would imagine they're fairly happy with the coming results of it.

Mclaren does seem a more obvious bet.


Seems fair, but I wouldv taken him in Mercedes style anyway. Allison commands a lot of respect what he does with about half the budget of Ferrari.

#12 Seanspeed

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:16

Seems fair, but I wouldv taken him in Mercedes style anyway. Allison commands a lot of respect what he does with about half the budget of Ferrari.

I dont know specifically how great Allison is, but the main thing is "where does he fit in?". At Mercedes, all the important positions have been filled.

Mclaren are the one top team that has holes to plug in Allison's area of expertise.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:27

Probably heading to Mercedes :rotfl:


:up:

Mercedes plan to win the WDC and WCC is to simply buy up all the personnel out there from other teams.

#14 nomi

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:28

Has it been announced by Lotus?

Man if this is true it's a big blow to Lotus, they are looking strong and likely title contender or challenger to Red Bull.

Could Lotus not guarantee Allison everything he wanted ??

Edited by nomi, 08 May 2013 - 01:28.


#15 santababy

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:48

Has it been announced by Lotus?

Man if this is true it's a big blow to Lotus, they are looking strong and likely title contender or challenger to Red Bull.

Could Lotus not guarantee Allison everything he wanted ??


Well, Lotus doesn't even have a title sponsor yet... ):

#16 Atreiu

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:08

Kimi is taking him to Red Bull. Newey to retire.

#17 BigCHrome

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:12

:up:

Mercedes plan to win the WDC and WCC is to simply buy up all the personnel out there from other teams.


:down: It is not.

#18 Vesuvius

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:18

Haven't heard this in anywhere else and yesterday Allison was with full excitment talking about Lotus updates to barcelona...so how did this happend so soon?:s

#19 bogi

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:44

I don't think he will come to McLaren, Tim Goss is a new TD.

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#20 darkkis

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:54

If this is true, and it's mercedes again... :down:

#21 SNiko

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:01

Everything is obvious. McLaren is the only top team who is looking for a technical director. Allison on of the most talented technical directors in F1 at the moment.

#22 chumma

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:02

Mclaren :D! YYYYEEEEESSSSSSS!

#23 maverick69

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:10

I will Lol so hard if it is Merc.

Lauda "Ve need a new strategy as ze car is still munching its tyres"

Merc Board: "Buy all of ze other technical directors"

#24 f1rules

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:12

Kimi is taking him to Red Bull. Newey to retire.




could be, but i REALLY HOPE! he is on his way to mclaren PLEASE!

#25 yoyogetfunky

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:32

I will Lol so hard if it is Merc.

Lauda "Ve need a new strategy as ze car is still munching its tyres"

Merc Board: "Buy all of ze other technical directors"

:lol:

#26 yoyogetfunky

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:33

could be, but i REALLY HOPE! he is on his way to mclaren PLEASE!


Could be coup of the year. If its true. :)

#27 swerved

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:13

Tweet from Scarbs

"Hearing of a shock anouncement today"

Could be about Allison.

Another from him

"Senior Personnel"

Edited by swerved, 08 May 2013 - 08:15.


#28 ZooL

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:23

I thought Tim Goss was promoted at McLaren to Technical Director after Paddy Lowe quit.

#29 Disgrace

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:28

Then he'll be a "technical chief" or whichever related title is needed to make the business cards.

#30 Frankbullitt

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:29

Tweet from Scarbs

"Hearing of a shock anouncement today"

Could be about Allison.

Another from him

"Senior Personnel"


Scarbs is a Man Utd fan I believe, so that might be in relation to that.

#31 F1ultimate

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:33

Scarbs is a Man Utd fan I believe, so that might be in relation to that.


Allison to replace Sir Alex Ferguson? He can help Van Persie improve his diving technique.

:lol: :drunk:

#32 Frankbullitt

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:37

Allison to replace Sir Alex Ferguson? He can help Van Persie improve his diving technique.

:lol: :drunk:


:D

#33 Yoshi

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:38

Scarbs is a Man Utd fan I believe, so that might be in relation to that.


Right - it's about Sir Alex.
He will retire after this season.

#34 swerved

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:54

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#35 Cavani

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:56

it is obviously mclaren

#36 Sakae

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:02

it is obviously mclaren

how is it obvious - just curious

#37 Slackbladder

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:06

Andrew Benson ‏@andrewbensonf1 3m
Sources tell me Allison will not go to Red Bull. I understand he has an offer from McLaren, but that Ferrari is his most likely destination

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:09

Even though Mercedes is offering jobs to every person in the paddock i still doubt he is going there. Most likely Mclaren have sorted a deal when Lowe departs at the end of the season or Ferrari.

Edited by JRizzle86, 08 May 2013 - 09:21.


#39 Cyanide

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:26

A shame for Lotus then. They'll lose Allison, which probably means Kimi will move to Red Bull and it's back to the dog years for the team. Would've liked to see the team fighting for championships for a few more years with Raikkonen.

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#40 ZooL

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:26

If he goes Ferrari, it shows Ferrari are trying to copy Mercedes method of hiring multiple technical directors.

#41 swerved

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:30

Confirmed.

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/107258


#42 nomi

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:30

So how long is the gardening leave for - 6 months?

If so Allison can contribute work towards end of the season to 2014 car.

Such a shame, i wonder what Kimi must be thinking. If Lotus couldn't keep Allison than do they expect to keep Kimi so easily.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:31

Even though Mercedes is offering jobs to every person in the paddock i still doubt he is going there. Most likely Mclaren have sorted a deal when Lowe departs at the end of the season or Ferrari.

There was time when Mercedes lost some people as well. Movement of resources is commonplace, and not exclusive to Mercedes.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:35

There was time when Mercedes lost some people as well. Movement of resources is commonplace, and not exclusive to Mercedes.


You cannot doubt the number of people they have poached from other teams is high, especially with regard to multiple tech directors. Considering Mercedes GP have only existed since 2010 saying there was a time doesn't really hold well.

The article seems to leave it down to Ferrari, McLaren seem to be denying it and seem happy with Tim Goss as a replacement for Lowe.

Edited by JRizzle86, 08 May 2013 - 09:37.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:38

Bad news for Lotus. He must have done something right, juding by the way the team has improved.. :(

Edit: So, where is he going then? Mercedes? :D

Edited by pUs, 08 May 2013 - 09:40.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:44

Wonder where he ends.

Ferrari is probably the most plausible one and McLaren next. Newey is also getting old and Allison could be his successor. But I doubt it.

It has to be one of the top teams though, Williams has no funds to compete for him and Lotus has stated earlier the season that they will not pay crazy amounts of money for their employees.

1. Ferrari
2. McLaren
3. RedBull
4. Mercedes



#47 Ferrari2183

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:52

Yea, I'm not quite sure where he'd fit in at Ferrari at the moment. They've just gone through a technical reorganization and I would imagine they're fairly happy with the coming results of it.

Mclaren does seem a more obvious bet.

I wouldn't exactly call Pat Fry a technical director at Ferrari. He seems to operate more as a deputy team principle than anything else with a makeshift title of 'chassis' director.

I think Allison could fit quite well with Tombazis in the aero department.

Anyway, it's a big loss for Lotus.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:53

You cannot doubt the number of people they have poached from other teams is high, especially with regard to multiple tech directors. Considering Mercedes GP have only existed since 2010 saying there was a time doesn't really hold well.

The article seems to leave it down to Ferrari, McLaren seem to be denying it and seem happy with Tim Goss as a replacement for Lowe.

I think benefit of reorganization at Brackley remains to be discovered, because whatever promising start we see this year, those are 2012 efforts IMO. It's too soon to judge them, and I am convinced that it is only temp situation anyway. I actually do expect some people to leave before Dec 31 this year. With Lowe on board, Allison's presence would be of course redundant, and eyebrow rising across the globe (read, seeing as incompetence by Wolff and Lauda).

#49 darkkis

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:22

*sigh* R.I.P Lotus' chances to be in top 3.

#50 yoyogetfunky

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:25

Im happy for whoever gets him, but this is indeed sad news for Lotus and Kimi fans.