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#1 Antonov

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:19

Although radical changes were announced at first, I believe there is an understanding now to keep the current package pretty much alive.

But with turbos coming in next year, I was wondering if the airbox might disappear?

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#2 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:28

With the necessity for a roll hoop it makes sense to keep the airbox there in the uninterrupted flow and reduce the sidepod size and radiator intakes. Plus with the high rear wing the cars would look even more disproportionate than they do now.

#3 FPV GTHO

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:39

Well AFAIK there's still going to be big changes at the front end with lower nose tips and narrower front wings. Then the rear end will lose the beam wing and the exhausts will be different, single outlet and I think it might have to exit between the wheels.

I don't know what's happening with the roll hoop but they might use it for more cooling than they do now.

#4 Molo19

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:57

reduce the sidepod size and radiator intakes


From what I gather, the new engines will require much better cooling than V8s and consequently bigger sidepods.

#5 Zava

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:34

From what I gather, the new engines will require much better cooling than V8s and consequently bigger sidepods.

I think he meant that the airbox can help in reducing the sidepod size and radiator intakes.

but yeah, as far as I know, the mandated changes are:
-165 cm wide front wing (currently 180) distributed 50-65-50 cm (currently 60-60-60 cm, as in aero parts - middle aero neutral zone - aero parts)
-2cm higher rear wing, no beam wing (probably reintroduces rear wing middle pillars?)
-much lower nosetip (around 18 cm over reference plane? instead of current 55 cm)
-single exhaust outlet, probably over the gearbox

#6 muramasa

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:46

Although radical changes were announced at first, I believe there is an understanding now to keep the current package pretty much alive.

But with turbos coming in next year, I was wondering if the airbox might disappear?

renderings of the new engine has single turbo air intake on top of engine, so most likely roll-hoop is going to be used as airbox.


#7 Richard T

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:28

I think FIA scrapped the proposed changes to rear and front wing regulations.. Still low nose tough

#8 Imperial

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:33

Weren't the engine cover sizes increased a few years ago for commercial reasons, i.e. to sell more/bigger space to sponsor/s?

Being the most commercial of sports, I can't see any sizeable reduction in any of the space behind the driver.

#9 Richard T

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:40

Weren't the engine cover sizes increased a few years ago for commercial reasons, i.e. to sell more/bigger space to sponsor/s?

Being the most commercial of sports, I can't see any sizeable reduction in any of the space behind the driver.


Yeah, in 2010...

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#10 Timstr11

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:40

Newey confirmed last week:

-Lower front chassis and nose
-Narrower front wing. 75mm each side
-No beam wing



#11 Nonesuch

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:44

Newey confirmed last week:

- Narrower front wing. 75mm each side

That's great! :up: The wings have looked ridiculous ever since the current rules were introduced in 2009.

I'm not sure exactly how wide the wings are now, and as such how much difference it'll make, but 15 cm isn't nothing.

#12 Mrluke

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:16

Weren't the engine cover sizes increased a few years ago for commercial reasons, i.e. to sell more/bigger space to sponsor/s?

Being the most commercial of sports, I can't see any sizeable reduction in any of the space behind the driver.


Wasn't this also to incorporate the f-duct?


#13 Imperial

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:41

Wasn't this also to incorporate the f-duct?


Not sure. Still can't see the major sponsors agreeing to paintable parts of the car disappearing.

#14 Anja

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:00

Wasn't this also to incorporate the f-duct?

As far as I can remember, most cars had the extended engine cover even before f-duct.

#15 juicy sushi

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:01

Yeah, in 2010...
http://images.gpupda...arge/150792.jpg

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I think the rule is older than that. 2003 or 2004 I believe. Look at the airbox on an F2002.

#16 FPV GTHO

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 13:21

The shark fin cars had nothing to do with regulations, Red Bull introduced it to reduce yaw and to help airflow to the rear wing. That developed into fins going right to the wing and also the F Duct, and now the regs ban anything but a small shark fin.

#17 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 15:40

From what I gather, the new engines will require much better cooling than V8s and consequently bigger sidepods.


Interesting. On one hand it makes sense as the addition of a turbo charging unit requires more cooling but at the same time I would have thought the smaller displacement engine, less cylinders, lower revs and lower power output would offset this.

Good to hear about the front wings going back to close to what they were before. Small step towards the cars looking proportional again. Just need to widen/lower the rear wing and the cars will look great.

#18 Fulcrum

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 17:48

I was wondering if the airbox might disappear?


The airbox will be replaced with a turbo air inlet like in IndyCar and the first generation GP3 car:
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