No SC this year.......
Yeah, and no SC for the other two...
Posted 11 June 2013 - 15:26
No SC this year.......
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 15:33
So much for 'cheese' tyres unless they are a very mature GoudaThe 2013 edition is actually the fastest Canadian GP in the no refueling era.
2010 Canadian GP Race winner time: 1:33:53.456
2010 Canadian GP Fastest lap: 1:16.972 (R. Kubica, 10 lap old tires)
2012 Canadian GP Race winner time: 1:32:29.586
2012 Canadian GP Fastest lap: 1:15.752 (S. Vettel, 7 lap old tires)
2013 Canadian GP Race winner time: 1:32:09.143
2013 Canadian GP Fastest lap: 1:16.182 (M. Webber, 23 lap old tires)
Posted 11 June 2013 - 15:49
Posted 11 June 2013 - 16:02
^ It's not really about hearing it on TV. It's about the drivers who are on the podium and have to hear all this. Different sports have different crowd standards. Booing has never been a known part of F1, I don't see why it should be accepted now. That is one thing we can live without.Don´t be so exagerated, Vettel´s interview can be heared right on TV. I barely heard the boos in a lower level.
Personally, I don´t like it, but people that go to the race have the right to express their feelings. It´s not dramatic.
Each sport has his own way of manage the crowd. Compare tennis with football for example.
Posted 11 June 2013 - 16:19
^ It's not really about hearing it on TV. It's about the drivers who are on the podium and have to hear all this. Different sports have different crowd standards. Booing has never been a known part of F1, I don't see why it should be accepted now. That is one thing we can live without.
Posted 11 June 2013 - 16:55
Oooh, the classic 'they earn millions, so they can chased by paparazzi' logic! Totally convinced. Come, let's boo all the rich men!Dry your tears, mate. I'm guessing that the millions of pounds in the bank and the lifestyle that goes with it is worth 30 seconds of booing.
Posted 11 June 2013 - 17:36
Posted 11 June 2013 - 17:38
Can anyone explain why was Webber the only driver taking that unusual line on the front stretch? That was very odd.
Posted 13 June 2013 - 19:57
Are you sure about that?I didn't like the booing either but this post is just as classless.
Of course they do, but they have a right to express their feelings as much as I have a right to criticise them for doing so. I thought they behaved like spoiled children considering they had the opportunity to be where they were--some people can't afford to go to these races but would very much love to do so, and I can imagine some of these people (myself included) would behave like angels (hyperbole here, as in the first post) to get the opportunity. The truth is that those who were booing weren't the only people watching the event--whether or not they paid more than the rest of us--and they generally make it less enjoyable for all of us who are when they behave the way they did. Forget us couch potatoes on the other side of the airwaves for a moment and consider the other people who also paid to be there and may have wanted to hear Vettel's interview--did they deserve to be subjected to such juvenile behaviour?The people who watch the race live are the ones who have forked out serious money to see it, not the audience watching at home. Therefore they have a prior claim to be entertained and to express their feelings. I don't agree with the way those feelings were expressed but that certainly isn't because some people sitting on their arses on the sofa couldn't hear the interviews.
I don't buy the whole 'for the fans' argument in regards to the podium interviews. DRS is just as much 'for the fans' as the podium interviews are--it's a gimmick for the 'show', first and foremost, and that it benefits the fans at the track is almost certainly an afterthought, I think. I've flip-flopped on their merits for the sport as a whole since their inception but now I think I'm almost certainly done with them.The podium interview is a good way to give the paying fans some extra exposure to the drivers they've travelled to support. I was in front of the podium in China and while I couldn't hear a thing (no earplugs during the race) a lot of people seemed to appreciate it. On the other hand, the sound would be better for TV audiences in an underground cave full of media so I guess we should move it there...
If this is sarcasm, see the above.Yeah, may be if crowd from a particular track boos a driver during the podium interview, they should just scrap the podium interview for that circuit. After all, it is the chance of podium interview that gives them a chance to vent their negative feelings and the whole podium interview exercise is for the crowd.. They should not be given that opportunity. Continue podium interviews with other tracks and devoid those tracks that boo of the podium. May be scrap it altogether, it looks hideous anyway. Let them just watch the recorded replay of the interview.
Posted 13 June 2013 - 20:25
Edited by Ravenak, 13 June 2013 - 20:25.
Posted 13 June 2013 - 20:28
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:12
If people are allowed to clap and cheer then why is booing and jeering not allowed?!
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:17
Please read the first part of my post:You're also allowed to boo someone you don't like because he's classless, obnoxioulsy lucky, a liar, probably a cheater somehow, a manipulator and an annoying fingerer.
But then again, you'd just sink to his level in the process.
I never said they weren't allowed to behave as they did--just that I look down on that sort of behaviour in the context that it was used. I have a right to do that, don't I?... they have a right to express their feelings as much as I have a right to criticise them for doing so.
See above. In my opinion (< note this part), booing and jeering have their places at sporting events, but to boo someone because they're merely performing an interview that they're essentially required to complete just isn't cool.If people are allowed to clap and cheer then why is booing and jeering not allowed?!
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:19
You're also allowed to boo someone you don't like because he's classless, obnoxioulsy lucky, a liar, probably a cheater somehow, a manipulator and an annoying fingerer.
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:22
Edited by Ravenak, 13 June 2013 - 21:23.
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:28
^ It's not really about hearing it on TV. It's about the drivers who are on the podium and have to hear all this. Different sports have different crowd standards. Booing has never been a known part of F1, I don't see why it should be accepted now. That is one thing we can live without.
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:29
Because a guy who just won deserves all the boos for his efforts...?If people are allowed to clap and cheer then why is booing and jeering not allowed?!
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:50
You're also allowed to boo someone you don't like because he's classless, obnoxioulsy lucky, a liar, probably a cheater somehow, a manipulator and an annoying fingerer.
But then again, you'd just sink to his level in the process.
Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:54
Edited by Ravenak, 13 June 2013 - 21:56.
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Posted 13 June 2013 - 23:57
Posted 14 June 2013 - 00:49
Posted 14 June 2013 - 00:52
we seriously still talking about that gesture?... people.... it's just a finger you usually use it to click your left mouse button, it is something completely normal
Posted 14 June 2013 - 00:55
I'm sure Vettel didn't bat an eye at the boos. He most probably expected them, given that he spent the last few years pre-emptively answering them by brandishing his index finger like it was the middle one. "I won, f*** y'all".
Posted 14 June 2013 - 17:42
Posted 14 June 2013 - 17:47
Oh come on, getting upset about that little finger is just nitpicking
Posted 14 June 2013 - 18:41
You're also allowed to boo someone you don't like because he's classless, obnoxioulsy lucky, a liar, probably a cheater somehow, a manipulator and an annoying fingerer.
Waking up to Vettel leading the WDC feels like cutting one bit of my genitals everyday.
Posted 14 June 2013 - 18:55
Because you can appreciate excellence in sport? Because you can't say these guys suck at this level to jeer? If I remember right, Vettel won the Canadian Grand Prix and he certainly excelled. That's what the cheers are reserved for. Anything else has no sporting reason.If people are allowed to clap and cheer then why is booing and jeering not allowed?!
Posted 14 June 2013 - 18:59
He clearly pointed out that they were Ferrari fans and it's no big deal, when asked about the boos. Yes, I don't think these things bother him. He was probably laughing inside 'I managed to frustrate all those Ferrari fans, ha haa'.I'm sure Vettel didn't bat an eye at the boos. He most probably expected them, given that he spent the last few years pre-emptively answering them by brandishing his index finger like it was the middle one. "I won, f*** y'all".
Posted 14 June 2013 - 19:05
Yeah I agree, booing is poor. Something like Austria 2002 is fair enough, or Indy 2005, otherwise it's fans demeaning themselves IMO.Because you can appreciate excellence in sport? Because you can't say these guys suck at this level to jeer? If I remember right, Vettel won the Canadian Grand Prix and he certainly excelled. That's what the cheers are reserved for. Anything else has no sporting reason.
Posted 14 June 2013 - 19:09
Relax. You're probably just jealous that you weren't there to boo him, right?
Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:07
Of course they do, but they have a right to express their feelings as much as I have a right to criticise them for doing so. I thought they behaved like spoiled children considering they had the opportunity to be where they were--some people can't afford to go to these races but would very much love to do so, and I can imagine some of these people (myself included) would behave like angels (hyperbole here, as in the first post) to get the opportunity. The truth is that those who were booing weren't the only people watching the event--whether or not they paid more than the rest of us--and they generally make it less enjoyable for all of us who are when they behave the way they did. Forget us couch potatoes on the other side of the airwaves for a moment and consider the other people who also paid to be there and may have wanted to hear Vettel's interview--did they deserve to be subjected to such juvenile behaviour?
The hecklers came off as being totally unthankful for being able to be at the race live; F1 as a sport gets enough negative press these days, and rowdy, unappreciative fans don't need to be added to the already rich vortex of disintegrating tyres, 'artificial' overtaking, and rule fiascos. To those outside the sport, they tarnish all of us, as F1 fans and fans of racing in general, with their behavior.
That's my opinion, anyway--do you disagree?
I don't buy the whole 'for the fans' argument in regards to the podium interviews. DRS is just as much 'for the fans' as the podium interviews are--it's a gimmick for the 'show', first and foremost, and that it benefits the fans at the track is almost certainly an afterthought, I think. I've flip-flopped on their merits for the sport as a whole since their inception but now I think I'm almost certainly done with them.
I went to Indianapolis for the GPs in both 2003 and 2007 and did not feel cheated because the drivers were interviewed 'in an underground cave full of media'. You're going to be hearing them over a loud-speaker either way unless you've shelled out shed-loads for the premium seating that lets you walk right up to the podium before the mass congregation of people shows up there. Honestly, what's the difference between them being out in the open or in the press conference room anyway if you're hearing them over the PA system--or in your case, can't even hear them at all?
Posted 16 June 2013 - 16:58
Senna was booed on the podium at Silverstone in 1990. Even as a kid I found that quite a shocker.Booing has never been a known part of F1, I don't see why it should be accepted now.