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Time to rebadge Ferrari as FIAT from 2014?


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#1 Wiggy

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 21:38

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?



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#2 garoidb

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 21:44

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?


They used to carry a FIAT badge (in the 1980s, unless my memory fails me). When, and why, did that stop?

#3 EthanM

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 21:49

They used to carry a FIAT badge (in the 1980s, unless my memory fails me). When, and why, did that stop?


they still carry Fiat badges between the Pirelli badge and the ferrari badge on the nosecone

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#4 Zava

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 21:52

imagine drivers saying: "at some point of their careers, every driver wants to drive for FIAT." :lol:

#5 Dan333SP

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:05

Nope. What happened the last time Ferrari raced in F1 with turbos? They produced one of the most brilliant turbo road cars of all time (F40). No reason to think it'll be any different this time around.

#6 garoidb

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:07

they still carry Fiat badges between the Pirelli badge and the ferrari badge on the nosecone

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It used to be much more prominent:

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#7 EthanM

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:10

Nope. What happened the last time Ferrari raced in F1 with turbos? They produced one of the most brilliant turbo road cars of all time (F40). No reason to think it'll be any different this time around.


Group B had way more to do with the F40 than turbo F1 engines

#8 fabr68

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:12

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?


Really? Please show me a FIAT road car that comes with a 1.6L Turbo V6 engine producing over 600 Horsepower.



#9 EthanM

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:19

Really? Please show me a FIAT road car that comes with a 1.6L Turbo V6 engine producing over 600 Horsepower.


Well probably not a FIAT but an Alfa Romeo? And the world would have come full circle :)) (Enzo drove for Alfa Romeo in the 20s, then he started an Alfa Romeo dealership)

#10 Kingshark

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:20

Please god no.

#11 John Player

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:59

Well probably not a FIAT but an Alfa Romeo? And the world would have come full circle :)) (Enzo drove for Alfa Romeo in the 20s, then he started an Alfa Romeo dealership)


Ferrari could buy Marussia and rename it Alfa Romeo.

#12 Ravenak

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 23:13

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?


Just... just stop.

#13 MP422

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 23:18

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?


Huh ? why is it not relevant ?

#14 fabr68

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 23:48

I think Mclaren would rebadge themselves as "Yugo" before Ferrari changes their Formula 1 team name to something else.

#15 Myrvold

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 00:20

I think Mclaren would rebadge themselves as "Yugo" before Ferrari changes their Formula 1 team name to something else.


It would be Zastava ;P

#16 Afterburner

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 00:30

Nice one. :lol: :up:

Wait, you were serious? Still doesn't seem FIATsible to me. :p

#17 ebc

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:07

It would be great if Fiat badged customer Ferrari engines as Alfa Romeo or Maserati, it would be nice to have those names in F1. We could have a Sauber Alfa Romeo which would be cool.

#18 Seanspeed

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:16

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#19 Boxerevo

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:57

imagine drivers saying: "at some point of their careers, every driver wants to drive for FIAT." :lol:


Oh dear.

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#20 Sakae

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:02

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?

You mean similar like "Infinity engine" in RBR?

#21 seahawk

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:11

Bet that within 2 years of the new engine Forumal we will see a V6 Turbo Ferrari with KERS.

#22 schumimercamg

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:04

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?


It is absolutely relevant. The current Ferrari v8 will make way for a turbo 6 with kers in their next 'entry' level car. Iirc the range tippers will always have a big 12.

#23 Jovanotti

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:43

Bet that within 2 years of the new engine Forumal we will see a V6 Turbo Ferrari with KERS.

Imagine a Ferrari roadcar with a KERS-like device that gives you a few seconds of extra boost - I bet such a gadget would be an instant success.

It would be great if Fiat badged customer Ferrari engines as Alfa Romeo or Maserati, it would be nice to have those names in F1. We could have a Sauber Alfa Romeo which would be cool.

I like the idea, they even could even distribute the names according to performance: Ferrari - Sauber-Maserati - Marussia-Chrysler.

Edited by Jovanotti, 11 June 2013 - 08:50.


#24 darkkis

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:34

imagine drivers saying: "at some point of their careers, every driver wants to drive for FIAT." :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The best comment in this thread.

#25 noikeee

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:38

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?


lol no.

#26 Jimisgod

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:41

It used to be much more prominent:

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That looks like a goddamn fighter plan.

Scary how exposed the driver is though.

#27 fabr68

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:06

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+1 :up:

Now this is this thread best comment

#28 HP

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 13:40

Shudders at the topic

#29 sheepgobba

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:08

How awful does 'Ferrari powered by FIAT' sound?

#30 muramasa

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:29


"Scuderia Ferrari FIAT" :up:

"Sauber FIAT" :up:

"STR FIAT" :up:

#31 Jackmancer

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:34

Ferrari and Fiat are not one company.

Fiat could choose to sponsor Ferrari though, but the team is and will be Ferrari. Actually, the Ferrari brand is worth more than the Fiat brand, and I doubt Fiat has the money or intention to replace Santander/Philip Morris.

#32 sheepgobba

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:38

Ferrari and Fiat are not one company.

Fiat could choose to sponsor Ferrari though, but the team is and will be Ferrari. Actually, the Ferrari brand is worth more than the Fiat brand, and I doubt Fiat has the money or intention to replace Santander/Philip Morris.


FIAT owns* Ferrari?

Edited by sheepgobba, 12 June 2013 - 18:00.


#33 Red17

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 17:55

Good lord! I hope the OP is joking!

#34 molpid

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:51

FIAT owns* Ferrari?


yes, up to 90%

#35 AlexS

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 19:26

Now this is this thread best comment


Amen!

Btw today Ferrari can survive on its own, it did not in the 80's

#36 GhostR

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 19:29

Earlier today on my lunch break at work, I saw this thread showing on the index page. Wish I'd taken a screenshot, as the thread title had been contracted and said:

"Time to rebadge Ferrari as FIA..."

... and immediately wondered if some new scandal had broken. I was sorely disappointed to find this instead! :p


EDIT: And because of my post, I now have screenshot:

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Edited by GhostR, 12 June 2013 - 19:34.


#37 Kingshark

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 19:32

Earlier today on my lunch break at work, I saw this thread showing on the index page. Wish I'd taken a screenshot, as the thread title had been contracted and said:

"Time to rebadge Ferrari as FIA..."

... and immediately wondered if some new scandal had broken. I was sorely disappointed to find this instead! :p

You mean like this?

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#38 oetzi

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 21:56

they even could even distribute the names according to performance: Marussia-Chrysler.

And, if it broke, Daimler-Chrysler.


#39 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 22:02

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Edited by KnucklesAgain, 13 June 2013 - 07:28.


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#40 InSearchOfThe

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:23

yes, up to 90%

Piero Ferrari owns the other 10%.

#41 George Costanza

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:01

imagine drivers saying: "at some point of their careers, every driver wants to drive for FIAT." :lol:



LOL. Exactly.

#42 rek

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:02

Apologies to the OP, but this marketing idea is so stupid only an Ivy League MBA could come up with it.

#43 SCUDmissile

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 13:43

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#44 BRG

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 14:02

/thread

You're suggesting the team be rebadged as Dino?

#45 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 18:02

The new engine formula isn't really relevant for Ferrari road cars, but it is for FIAT. It's surely time for them to use the team to help the Fiat division marketing and development-wise?


I just wanted to quote so this topic stays on top of the forum.

And I applaud you.

#46 Richard T

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 19:05

Scuderia Ferrari Fiat...?

#47 PayasYouRace

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 19:06

Perhaps we should also move the Monaco Grand Prix to Croydon city centre while we're at it. At least it'll get Lewis there at last.

#48 Red17

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 21:03

I just wanted to quote so this topic stays on top of the forum.

And I applaud you.

If the engine formula is relevant in Formula 1 then it becomes very relevant for Ferrari. And considering there isn't much racing going on in the Fiat group these days I think Ferrari will continue to carry the flag.

#49 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 22:40

You're suggesting the team be rebadged as Dino?


The separate Dino brand was short lived, and most people know it simply as the Ferrari Dino - and one of the really great cars in Ferrari history. Which shows, IMO, that Ferrari and V6 are not impossible in the way the OP suggested.

Edited by KnucklesAgain, 13 June 2013 - 22:41.


#50 canon1753

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:06

And, if it broke, Daimler-Chrysler.


:lol: