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#1 Andrew Hope

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 15:16

WE TORONTO NOW!
WE STANDING STARTS NOW!

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Toronto, the only city in Canada where a playoff beard means being clean shaven, is up next for the Izod IndyCar Series and is the second of three double-headers this season, where fans get twice the usual IndyCar action and half the action of any other series. The official spotter guide for the weekend claims that the double-header "offers a unique challenge to the stars of IndyCar", a challenge unlike any other round on the calendar, except perhaps the other two which are also double-headers. You won't want to miss how a species that put a man on the moon 44 years ago fails to drive more than four corners without bringing out a yellow.

Dat Schedule:

12 July (Friday)

Practice: 10:25am - 11:55am
Qualifiying #1: 2:15pm - 3:25pm

13 July (Saturday)

Qualifying #2: 10:35am - 11:05am
Race #1: 3:40pm - 6:00pm

14 July (Sunday)

Race #2: 3:40pm - 6:00pm

Note: All times posted Eastern/Greatest time zone. For West Coast USA, subtract 3 hours. For British/European, add 5 hours. For Westeros, send a raven.

Other Important Stuff:
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Entry list
Spotter guide
Pit lane assignments
Full schedule

"I can't watch the race on TV! Can someone give me a stream?"

Sure, but only if you can bravely soldier through this maze and avoid its various traps and temptations!

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Toronto is a misunderstood city by much of the world as proven by its official city motto of For the last time, it's Vancouver that's full of *****!. Toronto is actually home to immigrants, and even though large parts of the world use that sentence as code for "full of crime", I can assure you that if you find your car broken into, your dog kicked, or your sister's ass squeezed, the perpetrator is almost certainly a blue-eyed haystack like most of the population. Toronto is quite a diverse and tolerant place by major city standards these days. Whether this is due to everyone some time in late 2012 cottoning on to the fact that if land belongs to the man who works hardest for it, the very least you can do is divide the grass and the dirt beneath your feet 50/50 with someone who didn't have the good fortune to be shat out by their mother here already but instead came to this country by floating across the ocean on a barn door. There could also be a much simpler explanation, that my years of following up any racial thoughts of my own with a shrug and a confident muttering of "All pussy is pink on the inside" has finally began to change things around here. Of course, the local news may not see things this way, but who are you going to believe? I actually go outside and walk around here sometimes. Toronto is the real capital of the country that gave the world Call Me Maybe and the Trailer Park Boys, and this weekend it will give us two excellent races as well. There even used to a reason to live here.

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Toronto also has a rich sporting heritage, sort of like the one you'll find in every other city. The NHL's Maple Leafs are in financial terms the most valuable hockey team in the world, despite the fact they have not won the league's championship since two years before Michael Schumacher was born. Put another way, their last meaningful victory of any kind came the same year Jim Clark, Jochen Rindt and Graham Hill contested the Indy 500, and two of those drivers have been dead for over four decades, not unlike the hearts of the city's hockey fans. The Canadian Football League's Toronto Argonauts are the oldest professional sports team still using the same name in North America, which is a bit like expecting praise for having worn the same sweater since the 1870s. Toronto also has a baseball team, a soccer team, and a lacrosse team, of which absolutely nothing interesting could be said. The Toronto Indy however has a riveting history of excellent races and is one of the oldest races on the current calendar, and the inaugural event in 1986 was won by Bobby Rahal's moustache. Dario Franchitti won here in 1999. He's won here more recently, but 1999 was a long time ago now. That's 10 years before 20 years before James Jakes wins a race. Regardless, the races are sure to be the most interesting things to happen in the city since the mayor was caught smoking crack* with gangsters and the scandal rocked the city.

*Not a joke.

Here is our circuit map, providing useful tips for everywhere in and around the circuit you may wish to check out.

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Speaking only for myself I find no identity with patriotism and therefore I shouldn't feel the need to excuse an entire country here, but please do not let the nauseatingly sentimental street names that make up this track bullshit you. They would be more accurately called "This fat girl getting finger-banged on the park bench is the size of Manitoba" avenue, or "All I can see is puddles of sewage and dead seagulls on the Lake Shore" boulevard. Toronto is one of the most difficult circuits on the calendar, particularly the tight exits of corners, made harder by the fact that in this day and age of progressiveness and tolerance every exit is also an entrance.

The rules regarding the standing start (which will take place on Saturday's race, not Sunday's) are surprisingly uncomplicated by IndyCar standards, but are nevertheless far too boring to copypasta here. This article sums it up nicely.

So what happened last week? You remember, it was Pocono! Scott Dixon won a tricky race, with Charlie Kimball a tricky second and Dario Franchitti a tricky third.

What we expected:

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What we got:

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Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!

Ryan Hunter-Reay was taken out by Takuma Sato, who shot so far up RHR's ass he could've French kissed him from the inside. James Hinchcliffe lost it turn 1, lap 1, and manly tears were wept all across the world. Hinchcliffe later went on to provide more insight in the commentator's booth in 15 minutes than Marty Reid has given in 15 years. Pocono was generally agreed by most to have been a good race, just not as good as we had expected, sort of like trying rum for the first time. As for last year's Toronto Indy, Ryan Hunter-Reay was victorious in a finish under yellow but by less than a second from Charlie Kimball and Mike Conway, meaning this would be a good place to put that picture you saw four paragraphs and 9 minutes of your life ago. Takuma Sato is also now 10th in points after being first seemingly two weeks ago, when in reality he hasn't been standing on an IndyCar podium since Brazil. Dobie Gray didn't drift away that fast. Autosport favorite Simona de Silvestro had another forgettable weekend, but she can at least take solace from the fact that the American population is at least interested in something other than her boobs.

For what's been happening since Pocono, we turn to this week's print-screen special:

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So you've never watched IndyCar before and you don't know who to cheer for? No problem, figure out who you like and bet on them, and when you lose your house, your wife and the clothes off your back, revel in the fact you are finally free of the modern world's strangling claws and you can do that bank robbery you've daydreamed about for the past 10 years. If you need inspiration, it was less than a year ago that The Great Maple Syrup Heist* saw $20 million dollars of the sugary bottles of heaven sweeter than Jamie Little's daisy juice go missing. If you're going to swing, hit it out of the God damn park.

*Not a joke either.

Using the power of perhaps the only decent web site still around, click on a driver's name to see if he's the one you ought to be supporting. 24 drivers in the race means plenty of choices!

Takuma Sato
James Hinchcliffe
Ryan Hunter-Reay
E.J. Viso
Marco Andretti
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Alex Tagliani
Scott Dixon
Dario Franchitti
Charlie Kimball
Justin Wilson
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Sebastian Saavedra
Sébastien Bourdais
Ed Carpenter
Tony Kanaan
Mike Conway
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Simona de Silvestro
Graham Rahal
James Jakes
Josef Newgarden
Tristan Vautier
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Simon Pagenaud
Hélio Castroneves
Will Power
Ryan Briscoe

So who has been winning stuff lately?

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Dem Standings

Izod IndyCar Series

1 CASTRONEVES, Hélio (356pts)
2 HUNTER-REAY, Ryan (333pts)
3 ANDRETTI, Marco (301pts)

Firestone Indy Lights

1 MUNOZ, Carlos (285pts)
2 KARAM, Sage (281pts)
3 CHAVES, Gabby (246pts)

Pro Mazda Championship

1 BRABHAM, Matthew (184pts)
2 FERREIRA, Diego (134pts)
3 BLACKSTOCK, Shelby (118pts)

USF2000

1 HARGROVE, Scott (141pts)
2 GOODEN, Wyatt (88pts)
3 ESTRELA, Danilo (84pts)

Rosetta Stone Almost-Spoke-German Championship

1 PAGENAUD, Simon (269pts)
2 de SILVESTRO, Simona (171pts)
3 VAUTIER, Tristan (158pts)

Jacques Villeneuve I'll-Never-Be-in-F1-Again Championship

1 WILSON, Justin (253pts)
2 SATO, Takuma (241pts)
3 BOURDAIS, Sébastien (147pts)

And now, all the usual features!

Uneccessary Danica Mentions:

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You wish you had..

..the chance to spit game with Ana B in Brazil.

Take a drink every time..

"..well, let's see if they can get through the start clean this time".

Useless Indy Fact of the Day:

The nearest star to Earth is Alpha Centauri, which is 4.3 light years away. This means any aliens looking at Earth from Alpha Centauri are watching things that happened 4 years ago. Which means they think this is Graham Rahal's breakout year.

Do you remember..

..when Oriol Servia learned to fly?

Anagram of the Day:

Alex Tagliani / Genitalia Lax

This is why Autosport won't let me write for them.

Edited by Andrew Hope, 11 July 2013 - 05:17.


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#2 cheesy poofs

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 15:22

Monsieur Poofs will be there on Friday. His first time back at the Toronto race since 1994!

#3 encircled

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 15:27

Will this be a good example of an onboard standing start?

#4 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 15:30

Do you remember..

..when Oriol Servia learned to fly?


I think that was the only overtake in that race.

#5 Andrew Hope

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 17:55

It's a strange thing to be old enough where most of the races you've watched were over half your life ago.

#6 Alfisti

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 18:05

I live about 15 minutes from the track. Will give it a pass this year with a view to taking my boy next year when he's old enough to understand WTF is going on.

#7 ApexMouse

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 18:13

Quite possibly the finest OP i have ever cast eyes upon. You do gods work sir!

#8 HaydenFan

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 18:14

Useless Indy Fact of the Day:

The nearest star to Earth is Alpha Centauri, which is 4.3 light years away. This means any aliens looking at Earth from Alpha Centauri are watching things that happened 4 years ago. Which means they think this is Graham Rahal's breakout year.


I really feel good ole Graham should ask Coulthard for advice on to handle that situation.

I hope Dallara brought a truck load of spares to the track, as I bet a few could miss race two if they are lacking in wings. Which could bring back some memories, "I have no wings left!". And the way Tag has gone though parts of recently, they might not have any left this weekend either.

#9 Cacarella

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 18:18

Excellent OP! :up:
I was going to go this year but I couldn't convince myself to give a ****.

BTW, What's the significance of the F1 standings chart?



#10 Deluxx

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 18:19

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I lol'd @ pen wiki

#11 Fulcrum

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 18:34

WE STANDING STARTS NOW!


rip indycar

#12 paulb

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 19:07

the OP was brilliant enough to make me set the DVR for an IndyCar race.

#13 jonpollak

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 19:36

And with paulb's statement up there I feel AHope is in line for some of that $90million entrusted to The Hulman board to increase fan interest.
Jp

#14 Vitesse2

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:38

Andrew: any chance you could edit the OP so that those of us who don't have 60-inch monitors can actually read it without having to scroll across and back on every line? Just a smaller version of the map and slightly fewer sparkle ponies would help ... :)

Edited by Vitesse2, 10 July 2013 - 20:40.


#15 Lemnpiper

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 21:01

It's a strange thing to be old enough where most of the races you've watched were over half your life ago.



LOL wait til you reach the day when ALL the drivers are younger than you are

#16 Myrvold

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 21:38

Andrew: any chance you could edit the OP so that those of us who don't have 60-inch monitors can actually read it without having to scroll across and back on every line? Just a smaller version of the map and slightly fewer sparkle ponies would help ... :)


Just a little nerdy thing. Monitor size is not the thing, it's the resolution ;) Sitting on a 15" now. No problems because it is 1920x1080 :)

#17 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 21:43

It's caused by the photo.

#18 Andrew Hope

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 21:52

It's also caused by the fact that some of us are reading this forum on our phones and some of us are on our TVs, so someone is always going to lose. I'll try and fix it for everyone.

Edited by Andrew Hope, 10 July 2013 - 21:53.


#19 HaydenFan

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 23:48

I am going to say that the Happy IndyCar Fan kitten is probably more happy than IndyCar fan will every be,

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#20 OvDrone

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 00:13

Fun, fun, FUN.

#21 gm914

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 01:27

Wow Hope. You're nuts. Or those suppressants are taking over.

(paying attention?)

#22 Disgrace

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 01:45

Enjoy these Andrew Hope opening posts until they become Andrew Hope opening posts brought to you by Target.

#23 Andrew Hope

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:04

Remember rock stars - it's only selling out if its a company you don't believe in, not just a company your fans don't believe in.

Excellent OP! :up:
I was going to go this year but I couldn't convince myself to give a ****.

BTW, What's the significance of the F1 standings chart?


The standings are just there because I used that last time I did the IndyCar thread. I wanted to put a picture of something before I wrote out the standings for the various series and it seemed kind of mean to just put a picture of a box in an alley somewhere to represent the podium. I tried to find a similar graphic for different F1 seasons but no luck so far.

Wow Hope. You're nuts. Or those suppressants are taking over.

(paying attention?)


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The man has a few wins in him, it's just that he prepares for them with a few defeats.

Edited by Andrew Hope, 11 July 2013 - 05:12.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:18

It's also caused by the fact that some of us are reading this forum on our phones and some of us are on our TVs, so someone is always going to lose. I'll try and fix it for everyone.

Ta muchly! I can now appreciate the post in all its glory rather than it making my head spin :p

#25 jonpollak

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:25

Wow Hope. You're nuts.
(paying attention?)


Not to these idiot savants..to the racing silly.
It's the best in town.

Enjoy these Andrew Hope opening posts until they become Andrew Hope opening posts brought to you by Target.

And... what would be wrong with that ?

Lovin' the claymation.
Jp


#26 anbeck

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:29

I hope the race(s) can keep up with the entertainment level of this thread!

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:41

http://motorsportsta...toronto-anyway/

The track will be a mess..
Jp

#28 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:24

Oh...HELL yes. That's the headliner right there.

#29 Risil

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:24

Look here, we got ourselves a writer. :cool:

Excellent OP, Hope. Like you need me to tell you that. :up:

Sadly I've got my brother's wedding to go to on Saturday so I'll miss the exciting live introduction of that thing they did in Champ Car in 2007. So I want extra detailed on-here coverage. In return I will supply pictures of me looking like a bear in a suit.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:57

http://motorsportsta...toronto-anyway/

The track will be a mess..
Jp


From the article:

"Round 8 will occur just before IndyCar’s second race"

Have they allotted enough time to clear up after Paul Tracy demolishes the circuit in a bloody Stadium Super Truck :rotfl:

#31 tomisumi

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 12:05

Stupid question - why is standing start back in IndyCar?

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 12:20

Stupid question - why is standing start back in IndyCar?

I think the reasoning was "because why not". A more serious explanation would be - rolling starts on these circuits aren't really double-file (because when the leaders start racing, the back row is still stuck there in T6) and they wanted to see if this way is more fair. I guess..

Excellent OP as usual, I may have to swing by to see this man with World's largest testicles :eek:

BTW, how many drivers do you think will run out of front wings before the weekend is over?

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 12:59

One thing definitely not misunderstood about Toronto, is their mayor loves smoking crack.

Edited by BoschKurve, 11 July 2013 - 13:00.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 13:19

BTW, how many drivers do you think will run out of front wings before the weekend is over?


Doubt anything will top the 2001 CART race in terms of damage\cars retired.

#35 Deluxx

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 14:04

Stupid question - why is standing start back in IndyCar?


It's just for one race.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 14:16

Excellent OP.

So good, i had to explain why i was snorting with supressed laughter to a colleague.

Then i had to explain to him why it was funny. I couldn't.




Why am i still laughing?

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 14:44

Great OP. As usual I'll post the UK TV times. We get both races live this time.

- ESPN - 13/7 @ 20:15 (L) // 14/7 @ 20:15 (L)

Love the links for the drivers. As for the maze, I'll be happy to stay with Danica or Jamie :p

Interesting that they've decided to use green lights at the start, even though just about every series in the world abandoned them over a decade ago.

. The starting sequence will begin when the first two rows of red lights on the lighting panel illuminate. The red lights will continue to fill from the bottom of the light panel two rows at a time, for a total of six steps (12 rows).

How many lights is that then? Surely 5 like in F1 would be sufficient?

#38 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 14:46

Yeah, my first thought was do you go on the green or the extinguishing of the red.

The answer is

C) Someone will stall and they'll enact the rolling

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 14:50

Yeah, my first thought was do you go on the green or the extinguishing of the red.

The answer is

C) Someone will stall and they'll enact the rolling


Sad but true. I'm excited about the return of the standing start to Indycar. It's far more fair (rolling start cheaters are almost never penalized as long as they are starting a few rows back - Tony Kanaan is the master of this) and way more exciting than the rolling start. I hope it goes well and we see it become standard for all road and street courses, but I'm not holding my breath.

Edited by tkulla, 11 July 2013 - 15:06.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 15:05

Standing starts are tons of fun. I get rolling starts on oval circuits, but all street circuits should be standing starts in my opinion.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 15:10

Yes, I think we'll see a few people screw up their starts, which may very well prompt a rolling start anyway.

#42 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 15:15

It will probably be an ex-f1 driver or someone with plenty of standing start experience. Which is your cue for everyone's favorite rhetorical question.

Or, it goes off as planned and Ed Carpenter gets a launch not normally seen outside the NHRA.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 15:19

For me the big question is how the TV coverage will screw up being able to watch the start properly. I remember when Champcar started doing it they'd show all kinds of annoying split screens or one time that they used a fixed camera meaning the front row was out of view until they got to T1 and switched view. There's a reason in F1 they use a camera at T1 that covers the entire field.

#44 Vitesse2

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 15:42

Yeah, my first thought was do you go on the green or the extinguishing of the red.

Mine was to wonder if any of the drivers are red/green colourblind!

#45 Andrew Hope

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 16:43

Even if they film the start right, you know they're going to do the shitty F1 thing and cut back to 15 replays of the start at the end of lap 2 even if nothing interesting happened. Imagine the carnage if someone on the first few rows stalls on the grid.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 16:45

Even if they film the start right, you know they're going to do the shitty F1 thing and cut back to 15 replays of the start at the end of lap 2 even if nothing interesting happened. Imagine the carnage if someone on the first few rows stalls on the grid.


I recall nearly every Champ Car race in '07 had at least one stalled car.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 16:50

Not even going to ask if Sato. I just hope he does well.

#48 Andrew Hope

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 16:57

I recall nearly every Champ Car race in '07 had at least one stalled car.


I just hope it's not embarrassing, you know? I'll defend IndyCar to the day I die when it's getting unfairly ripped, but if 24 guys in the biggest open-wheel series in this hemisphere can't get the start right then the lolz will be thoroughly deserved.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 17:03

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If anything goes wrong "Blame Canada"

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 17:05

I just hope it's not embarrassing, you know? I'll defend IndyCar to the day I die when it's getting unfairly ripped, but if 24 guys in the biggest open-wheel series in this hemisphere can't get the start right then the lolz will be thoroughly deserved.


Even if they do, imagine the pack heading to turn 1 or turn 3 on this track...

It's a very Indycar thing to practice their standing starts only on street circuits :p