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[Jeff Weinbren]

Will there be a meeting place anywhere on Saturday or Sunday?. Has anyone seen any entry lists?.
Thanks in Advance,
Jeff Weinbren.

[Phil Rainford]

Looks like 2012's entry list Alan?

PAR

[Alan Cox]

Oops! Deleted. I wondered who would be the first of you to spot that (in the words of Captain Mainwaring). Thanks Phil.

[Ted Walker]

You are welcome to use my stand as a meeting point. Havnt the foggiest idea where it is but in the Trade Villiage somewhere. No Map No Tickets yet !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tim Murray]

In which case I propose a Saturday meeting at Ted's stand (wherever it happens to be). On the Saturday the lunch break runs from 12.20 to 13.20, so I suggest we meet at 12.30 to give us time for a good chat before we head off for the FIA Masters Historic Formula 1 at 13.20. If anyone would prefer to meet on Sunday instead (or would like more than one meeting) please chip in. I'm there all weekend.

[DN5]

Saturday at 12:30 sounds good. I'll see if I can get Cannon 14 along.

Geoff

[garyfrogeye]

I should be able to pop along on Sunday at 12.30 the rest of the time I'll probably be lurking around the Midget and Sprite Club stand, which hopefully will once again overlook the track. I may even be wearing a bib.

[TimRTC]

I will be spectating all day Sunday - although it looks like the Becketts grandstand is not open so probably sitting at Club corner most of the day.

[Giraffe]

Has anyone seen any entry lists?.

http://www.themaster...List_Online.pdf

http://motorracingle.....20List V1.pdf

http://motorracingle.....20List V1.pdf

[David Beard]

http://www.themaster...List_Online.pdf

http://motorracingle.....20List V1.pdf

http://motorracingle.....20List V1.pdf

Do you know where to find the entries for the "Froilan Gonzalez Trophy for HGPCA Pre '61 Grand Prix Cars" Tony?

[Tim Murray]

Full entry list now available on the HSCC site:

http://www.hscc.org....one_Classic.pdf

[Macca]

Excellent entry, sorry I won't be able to go............I see that chassis numbers are given in many cases and that Andy Middlehurst's Lotus 25 is still listed as R4 - someone should tell him DCN says it's R3!

Also, while the races have more representative cut-offs of car types than they used to, odd things still appear...........a Gordini T16 and a Lotus 16 in the Pre-66 rather than the Pre-61, for instance.


Paul M

[Suzy]

I'm on photography duty on Saturday and Sunday; will try and get along to Ted's stand but can't promise it. Would be nice to see you:)

[David Beard]

Today:

[Phil Rainford]

Thought they had sorted the traffic jams out at Silverstone ? ( Post some more later )

PAR

Edited by Phil Rainford, 27 July 2013 - 08:47.

[Bloggsworth]

A Covey of Cortinas...

[Phil Rainford]

Has there ever been a Grand Prix car more pleasing on the eye than the Brabham BT44?



apart from of course the Lotus 25



Then of course there is the Lotus 79



I give up !!




PAR

[mfd]

Thought they had sorted the traffic jams out at Silverstone ? ( Post some more later )
PAR

Brilliant - 10/10 composition & more than that for your patience waiting to get the shot

[Tim Murray]

First F1 victory for Scarab after 53 years.

[David McKinney]

Bronson won at Pau earlier this year. Or has he changed engines since then?

[Alan Cox]

Results here: http://www.mstworld....uit=Silverstone
Live timing here: http://www.mstworld....htm?series=HSCC

[David McKinney]

Thanks Alan - I've been looking for those

[alansart]

Results here: http://www.mstworld....uit=Silverstone
Live timing here: http://www.mstworld....htm?series=HSCC

That must be the biggest grid for Formula Fords ever in the UK - 49 cars started and amazingly 46 finished!

http://www.mstworld....resultfile=hsc2

Have there been larger FF1600 grids than this anywhere in the world?

[Suzy]

Sorry to have not seen you today; I was "helping" The Hollies with their soundcheck (3 of the members are genuine friends of mine). I couldn't find Ted's stand either - where is it hiding? Let me know what it's near (or inbetween-ish) and I will search again tomorrow. Just downloading goodness-only-knows how many photographs now. I am photographer tabard 181 (and I looked awfully hot and bothered today).

By the way, do go on the big wheel if you get the chance; it is free of charge and the view is actually very impressive.

Edited by Suzy, 27 July 2013 - 19:15.

[Gary C]

good to see Dick Dixon back in the Ffords after his big one. I wonder if Les Beards is running my car or the one he had before.

[Tim Murray]

Bronson won at Pau earlier this year. Or has he changed engines since then?

Whoops - sorry. I didn't know this - I'm surprised no-one mentioned it here at the time. It was good to see two such 'failures' as the Scarab and the Tec-Mec battling for the lead in today's race.

Sorry to have not seen you today; I couldn't find Ted's stand either - where is it hiding? Let me know what it's near (or inbetween-ish) and I will search again tomorrow.

I had a bit of a problem finding it myself. If you can locate the big Art Gallery tent in the trade village, Ted's stand is immediately to the north of it.

[Concreteconrods]

Good to see Len Terry enjoying himself with the Classic Team Lotus gang!

[DN5]

I had a good day yesterday: I saw nice cars, good racing, met some TNFers and managed to be in the Pits Garage when the Thunderstom came.

I wasn't surprised to see that the Group C race was cancelled.

The preceeding GT race was a strange one: the pace car had just two cars behind it the secong time past the pits when it was deployed again.

Geoff

[dwh43scale]

Some good racing and like DN5 near cover when the rain came !

Excellent banter on Silverstone radio between Titchmarsh, Champion and Hyde to "fill"

[Phil Rainford]

All would have been made welcome if they had wished to shelter from the rain in the Pirelli Hospitality area




PAR

[LotusElise]

We left during the penultimate sportscar race yesterday, as the weather was not going to improve and we were marooned without coats, miles away from the open grandstands. Both Dad and I thought the Group C race would not run - we were both disappointed as it always looks and sounds so spectacular.

Julian Bronson's win in the Scarab was hard-fought and enjoyable, although this is the first time I've seen him race and not crash, and smash something up.

[mariner]

The timimg data is very interesting , particularly since Micheal Lyons won both the F1 Masters and the F5000 races. His fastest lap times were 1:57.8 for his Lola T400 and 1:54 in his Williams FW07. So the F1 was say 4 seconds faster rhan an F5000 car, not too far off the differences when the cars were " young" - given the Williams is a later car.

Interestingly the fastest Group C lap was 1:46.7 , or 7 seconds quicker than the F1 time. Sadly I missed the group C race due to going Saturday ( blast and damn!) but is that quite a large gap.
Most interesting is that the best F Ford lap time of 2:20 or so virtualy equalled the pre '66 F1 fastest lap. I guess the old FF agression lives on - or maybe they aren't so conscious of the historical value of their cars. Anybody who drove one Lotus 25 into the other one would be unpopular to say the least.

BTW on a very mundane note the two paddock solution gives much more space to see the cars but, unless you are a BRDC member or have paid to be a "VIP" there is no actual
sit -down full meal cafe in the new paddock. You have to go back to the old Paddock. Eating is actually better at Sneterton - never though I would say that.

[Simon Arron]

Can't be Jarier because it would have broken by now...


Nigel Williams (Lotus 24).


Fairground and traction: the Minshaw Birdcage hammers along the Wellington Straight.


Simon Hadfield leans on the DB3S, one of 214 cars he raced during the weekend.


Having heard that there was an eight-mile tailback of Cortinas on the A43, some punters sought alternative means of entrance.

Edited by Simon Arron, 28 July 2013 - 19:38.

[Phil Rainford]

For those of a certain age.............a couple of iconic F5000 cars








PAR

[elansprint72]

All would have been made welcome if they had wished to shelter from the rain in the Pirelli Hospitality area




PAR

Random thought... are Pirelli making air bags these days?

Nice photos chaps.

[Odseybod]

A few snaps from today, which stayed mostly sunny, though with some spits and spots of rain during the Group C race (slightly extended to make up for yesterday's no-show).

Nice to see these two Volgas all the way from Mother Russia among the more exotic machinery (my ropey Russky sadly prevented an in-depth interview with their two pilots).



I feel sure I should know what this neat little Bristol sports car is ... Someone will doubtless chime in.



The Pre-63 GT race started promisingly ...



.. but then the Cobra went sick



... and it was left to Simon Hadfield in DP212 to keep the Pearson/Oliver 250 SWB honest (despite the Aston showing signs of having exchanged contact details with another competitor)



Mr Ruston of this Parish was pedalling this nice 356B enthusiastically (at least, I assume it was him doing the first stint)



Some cars look much more at home against the Silverstone Scaffolders Convention backgrounds



Julian Bronson scored the Scarab's second win of the weekend after Tony Smith's Dino went on a little detour, leaving it to Tony Wood in the Tec-Mec to give chase.





But I can't seem to get too excited about these (my loss, I'm sure).




On the catering front, I was lucky enough to stumble across the BBQ next to the (old) Paddock Caff - much better value than any of the 'divine' offerings scattered around the infield and with good jazz and real ale hard-by.

Overall, I was (sort of) glad I chose to go on the Sunday for a change, though there was a slight feeling of 'same old, same old' - and was it my imagination or was the club participation a bit smaller this year?

[reynard883]

Quick Nic in the Xjr14 was awesome. I think the fastest lap he did was the first flyer after the pit stop.

Love the event but numbers of public seemed down to me. But then again £40+ to get in puts off the casual attendee. I saw £6.80 for a pork roll too! Glad I packed my own lunch.

But worth every penny just to see the BT44 alone.....drools

Edited by reynard883, 29 July 2013 - 06:17.

[Ted Walker]

How does an "Indy Car" manage to win an F1 race TWICE ??????????Answers on a postcard please sent to the FIA.

[john aston]

RE lap times I haven't checked this year but whilst researching a piece I wrote re Jon Milicevic I established that his 1100 FJ Cooper T59 was lapping quicker that Adrian Newey's GT 40 and the same lap time as a Lotus 25.- this was the Classic in 2010 I think.Driver of the weekend tnis year for me Rob Huff who showed amazing commitment in throwing his Mini past various V8 powered machinery at Abbey and Village. Sound of the weekend was the 246 Dino ex Phil Hillcar being warmed up in The Wing. Road car was the stunning 275GTB in FOC area- so much classier that those daft Lamborghinis - sublime Miura apart. But why had they taped it off ? Nobody minded me poring over a gazilliuon pound 250SWB so why all the fuss about a Lambo? Same nonsense re F50, F40 and Enzo.

[David McKinney]

How does an "Indy Car" manage to win an F1 race TWICE ??????????Answers on a postcard please sent to the FIA.

If you're referring to the Scarab, it's not an Indy car, but an Intercontinental Formula survivor

[Allan Lupton]

How does an "Indy Car" manage to win an F1 race TWICE ??????????Answers on a postcard please sent to the FIA.

If you're referring to the Scarab, it's not an Indy car, but an Intercontinental Formula survivor

I remember Scarab's Grand Prix car had a Scarab engine and since the timekeepers' results have it as a "Scarab Offenhauser", it made it seem as if it were an Indanapolis job . . .

[RobertC]

A small selection of pictures


2013-07-28_0018 by Robert Clayson, on Flickr


2013-07-28_0014 by Robert Clayson, on Flickr


2013-07-26_0017 by Robert Clayson, on Flickr


2013-07-27_0010 by Robert Clayson, on Flickr


2013-07-28_0020 by Robert Clayson, on Flickr


2013-07-28_0005 by Robert Clayson, on Flickr

A few more on flickr.

Robert

[Ted Walker]

No NOT the Scarab Try again.

[Alan Cox]

No NOT the Scarab Try again.

The only F1 race on the programme with which the FIA seemed to be involved appears to be the Historic EffWun - Surely the RAM Williams FW07 wasn't an Indycar?

Edited by Alan Cox, 29 July 2013 - 08:58.

[Odseybod]

How does an "Indy Car" manage to win an F1 race TWICE ??????????Answers on a postcard please sent to the FIA.

A rather picky chum did grumble to me that the first three places in Sunday's race were filled by Grand Prix no-hopers or ineligibles - Scarab (now with Offenhauser engine), TecMec and Monzanapolis Lister). Perhaps the race wasn't for Pre-61 GP Cars, despite the title?

[bill p]

No NOT the Scarab Try again.

The Williams FW07 and Bobby Hillin/Longhorn LR-01 Indycar connection ??

Edited by bill p, 29 July 2013 - 10:22.

[Suzy]

Alright! I can take a hint - I'll start getting on with uploading my pictures from the weekend.

[David Beard]

Alright! I can take a hint - I'll start getting on with uploading my pictures from the weekend.

Mine are here...

[Phil Rainford]

Are we talking about this F1 car?




PAR

[barrykin]

Here's a great photo gallery from Silverstone:

http://www.sportscar...ort-and-photos/