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[Alan Cox]

Tickets now on sale for next year's Goodwood events

https://ticketing.go...,ARY9XW,6ZK8Y,1

[Alan Cox]

Latest press release from Goodwood regarding the FoS

 

 

LEC F1 CAR TO BREAK 35-YEAR LAY-OFF AT GOODWOOD FESTIVAL OF SPEED

One of Formula 1’s forgotten machines, the Lec CRP1, will turn a wheel in anger for the first time in over 35 years at the Goodwood Festival of Speed on June 26-29.

The CRP1, which last appeared at the Thruxton round of the Aurora AFX Formula 1 Series in 1979, and previously put the cat among the pigeons by leading the 1977 Belgian Grand Prix in the hands of David Purley, has been restored by WDK Motorsport and will be driven up the iconic Goodwood Hillclimb by Festival of Speed and Revival regular, Joe Twyman.

The story of the Lec is fascinating. Charles Purley, owner of a Bognor Regis refrigeration business, provided financial backing for local team Church Farm Racing – which had already achieved success in Formula 2 with future motor racing legends Derek Bell and John Watson – to graduate to F1 with a second-hand March chassis in 1973.

Purley’s son David hit the headlines almost instantly, his bravery in attempting to pull Roger Williamson out of the burning wreck that would cost him his life at that year’s Dutch Grand Prix earning the former paratrooper a George Medal.

Lec debuted its self-produced, Ford Cosworth-engined CRP1 in 1977, having used fridge door-shaping machinery to manufacture the bodywork panels of the car during quiet nights. Its highlight came at the Belgian GP at Zolder, which Purley led from Niki Lauda briefly before falling back to finish 13th.

While Purley would sadly lose his life in an aviation accident off the coast of Bognor at the age of 40 in 1985, the team – run by Mike Earle – evolved through several phases, scoring an F1 podium as Onyx at the 1989 Portuguese Grand Prix with Stefan Johansson and becoming a regular attendee at the Festival of Speed.

Joe Twyman, driver, said: "The car has been through a complete restoration process since being bought from the Purley family and taken out of the Donington collection around two years ago. I can’t wait to have a go on the hill in it – the aim is to reach the Sunday shoot-out and break 48 seconds, which I think should be achievable for the Lec."

 

 

[Alan Cox]

Latest list of runners and riders

http://cdn.gwsrv.net...-list-FINAL.pdf

[condor]

Thanks for the list Alan  - pleased to see that Kimi is on the list

 

I'll be there for the 4 days, are we doing the usual Friday meet at the startline bar 1pm?

[Tim Murray]

I'm game.

[alfredaustria]

Thanks for the list Alan.

Do you expect any other former famous racing-driver to be present at the Festival, not mentioned in the list?

I heard that Jack Sears should be there and also Lewis Hamilton.

[Breadmaster]

I'll be there on Sunday....does anyone have a list of what cars/bikes etc etc will be there?

[D-Type]

I'll be there on Sunday....does anyone have a list of what cars/bikes etc etc will be there?

The relevant page of the Goodwood Festival Website has a list.  But there's no guarantee it's up to date (Past experience shows that once the tickets are sold they don't bother to update it).

 

I'll be there all four days so if any of you see me shaking a Richard Burns Foundation collecting can - dig deep in your pocket (Not that you won't be digging in anyway)

Edited by D-Type, 23 June 2014 - 18:02.

[Breadmaster]

Ah yes.... I see it contains a link to the list provided by Alan earlier. looks like they think we're more interested to watching drivers than the cars!

[Alan Cox]

FoS will be streamed live this year

http://grrc.goodwood...,ARY9XW,9DM9O,1

[D-Type]

The weather forecast looks very variable.  Take waterproofs and sun oil!

[Tim Murray]

Hmm - thunderstorms on Friday morning. I do wish they'd learn NOT to have the FoS on the same weekend as Glastonbury.

Anyone else joining me and Condor at the Friday lunchtime meeting?

[Giraffe]

Anyone else joining me and Condor at the Friday lunchtime meeting?

 

With any luck, Tim! Howden Ganley has just told me he's driving the Maki on Saturday, but unsure about Friday.

[D-Type]

Hmm - thunderstorms on Friday morning. I do wish they'd learn NOT to have the FoS on the same weekend as Glastonbury.

Anyone else joining me and Condor at the Friday lunchtime meeting?

Hopefully (Start Line Bar that is, not the thunderstorms). 

[kayemod]

Anyone else joining me and Condor at the Friday lunchtime meeting?

 

That sounds like a Stella opportunity...

[Odseybod]

Sorry, giving the FoS a miss this year - maybe next year (and almost certainly Revival before then).

[Alan Cox]

FoS will be streamed live this year

http://grrc.goodwood...,ARY9XW,9DM9O,1

Just watched a bit this morning. Excellent build up with Rob Widdows doing a paddock walkabout

[Vitesse2]

Just watched a bit this morning. Excellent build up with Rob Widdows doing a paddock walkabout

I'm watching it now. And there's somebody from Mercedes (Rob Holloway, their PR manager ) who has just repeated the bloody paint scratching story.

 

And apparently Mercedes Benz hadn't raced between 1939 and 1954. WTF were those things in Argentina in 1951 then? And those sports cars with a 3-pointed star on them?

[Alan Cox]

I'm watching it now. And there's somebody from Mercedes (Rob Holloway, their PR manager ) who has just repeated the bloody paint scratching story.

I wondered who would be the first to be irritated by that!

[Vitesse2]

As he was leading up to it I was thinking "Don't say it ... don't bloody say it ..." And then he did! He took a somewhat creative line on the W165s as well - although to be fair the real story behind the Italian races of 1939 is not the one which is usually trotted out.

[Vitesse2]

Ye Gods! That was one hell of a brown trousers moment for Bartels.

 

And can somebody tell the commentators that the D-type Auto Union did not win a European Hill Climb Championship? They've said it at least twice!

 

Kudos to AU for presenting the car with black numbers rather than the usual red - as per period RAC regulations

[ensign14]

Only there for Thurs/Fri, so can upload some pics.

 

Let's start with the new:

 

 

^ Nissan ZEOD

 

 

^ the scent of a thousand

 

 

^ Toyota's Pikes Peak electric thing

 

 

^ rather interesting Spyker

 

 

^ I am without Sin

 

 

^ Spark Formula E

[ensign14]

 

^ this had been launched to the public about 10 minutes earlier.  Interesting that McLaren are making quite the thing of having won Le Mans, almost accidentally, by reprising the 59 theme.  Mixed with Bruce's orange, it's a nice apprecation of the past.

 

Talking of Le Mans...

 

 

...the Zytek was still besmirched with the honourable grime of class victory.

 

 

 

[ensign14]

There are always surprises at the FoS, and to me the most pleasant one was the Maki F101 prototype.

 

 

 

 

The Japanese engineers behind its restoration/recreation/renaissance/re-whatever were justly proud.  And why not?  I can't think of anything more quixotic than bringing back the first stab at a Grand Prix car that never managed to make it as far as a grid.  Other than perhaps one that started once, somewhere like Austria.  Howden Ganley was down to drive it...

[ensign14]

Another windmill-tilter was the Lec CRP2, built under orders of Charlie Purley to give David something to aim for while recuperating. 

 

 

Liked the Lec the first time I saw it (in a Jenks book), looked dynamically edgy and contemporary.

[ensign14]

 

^Koenigsegg One.  There was someone famous in the passenger seat, apparently, but nobody knew who he was.

 

 

^ Bullnose

 

 

^peeking under the jumper

 

 

^ broken nose

 

 

[ensign14]

Some sixties metal:

 

 

^ Maserati breadvan - looks much better in person than in the history books.

 

 

^ der-der   der-der   der-der-der-der-der-der-der-der

 

 

^ you might not have been quite so concerned if you saw this in your mirrors though.  Vic & Alf's Derrington-Francis.

 

 

[ensign14]

 

^Mercedes' attention to detail - even in 1914 they had thought of a lap counter to help their tactics.

 

Though they could have done better than park up their bloody car transporter in the middle of everything, surely?

 

 

 

 

^ Mazda went from the ridiculous to the sublime.

 

 

[ensign14]

This year's sculpture is one that, I think, benefits more from a more askance view.  Straight on, it looks in the way, but from the side or right underneath, it is quite spectacular in its ambitious simplicity.

 

 

 

[ensign14]

Couple of Americans:

 

 

^ Lightning-Offy

 

 

^ Return of the King.

 

 

^ strawman

 

 

^ Knight thoughts?

 

 

^ You have to love a place which has signposts for its pubs.

 

And finally, even amidst the smoke and noise, occasionally everyone needs a nap.

 

 

(I discovered a setting on the camera that blanked out all colours bar one.  Groovy)

[ensign14]

As a quick aside, it was cloudy on Friday morning, until literally 10 minutes before the Red Arrows appeared...

 

 

I can only imagine His Lordship is going to pay a very heavy price for his evident pact with the meteorological gods.

[Giraffe]

There are always surprises at the FoS, and to me the most pleasant one was the Maki F101 prototype.

 

 

 

 

The Japanese engineers behind its restoration/recreation/renaissance/re-whatever were justly proud.  And why not?  I can't think of anything more quixotic than bringing back the first stab at a Grand Prix car that never managed to make it as far as a grid.  Other than perhaps one that started once, somewhere like Austria.  Howden Ganley was down to drive it...

Just spoke to Howden by phone & he told me he will drive it this afternoon, but only if the track is dry.............

[Alan Cox]

Thanks for the pics, ensign. Nice, different angles on the Gerry Judah sculpture. And nice to see the replica of John Surtees' 1964 NART livery

[Giraffe]

Nice to see The King in town....

 

[Giraffe]

 

Nick Gethin in his first ever drive of his dad's Chevron.

Edited by Giraffe, 28 June 2014 - 12:27.

[Cappo]

Excellent pictures, thanks for posting!

[eldougo]

Thanks folks for the photos are great ,some day i will be there.

Edited by eldougo, 29 June 2014 - 07:18.

[Dipster]

Thanks folks for the photos are great ,some day i will be there someday.

Agreed, great photos for which I too am grateful.

 

But I will not be there someday. It is much too expensive for me. I have happy memories of Goodwood in my youth. That must suffice.

[Giraffe]

 

But I will not be there someday. It is much too expensive for me..

I am reliably informed that the majority of tickets to the FOS are given away via manufacturers etc who are exhibiting at the Festival (hence the perennial "sell-out"), so get networking, Dipster!

Edited by Giraffe, 29 June 2014 - 09:08.

[Breadmaster]

I'd like to say a big thank you to Sebastian Loeb for covering me with dust and small stones (which i'm still finding about my person) on his final charge on the rally stage.... he was really going for it. made my day.

[kayemod]

A rather boring question I'm afraid, but what state was Lord March's place left in after all the crowds had gone? I ask the question after talking to a friend who was at Glastonbury, and seeing pics in all the papers of the vast amounts of litter left there, apparently it will take an 800 strong army of litter-pickers and others, six weeks to restore the place to it's previous state, Michael Eavis's cows seem to leave less **** around than the pop fans did. Every year at Goodwood, I'm impressed by how clean and tidy everything is. A huge number of food & drink outlets, but very little litter. No trouble of any kind and a minimal Police presence, vast scope for theft and damage to valuable exhibits, but as far as I know, practically everyone was honest and behaved themselves. Apparently the loos at Glastonbury quickly became disgusting and barely usable, while anyone who attended the FoS would confirm that sanitary facilities there were just about as good as they could possible be for an event of this kind. It wasn't exactly "the right crowd and no crowding", but the numbers attending each event were very similar, so the difference can't be explained by the fact that Goodwood was blessed with better weather this year, though admittedly far fewer people camp at 'our' event. Also, I'd far rather listen to most racing engines than Dolly Parton or Metallica, that's probably just me showing my age, though Dolly claiming to be 68 is older than I am. Does anyone have a pic or two of what Goodwood looked like after the respectful and well behaved masses had departed?

[Breadmaster]

I wandered out at about 6:30 yesterday evening and there was pretty much no rubbish anywhere...everyone was using the oil barrel type bins. a few fag ends here and there and the odd plastic cup on a fence post but other than that, very tidy indeed.

[cooper997]

Thanks to Ensign14 & Giraffe for the photos so far. It's now a very long time since I went to the 1997 FoS. But something any enthusiast needs to do at least once!

I watched a little of the coverage via the streaming last night (Oz time). But it was only going to make me wish I was really there even more, if I kept watching.

Stephen

[LotusElise]

A rather boring question I'm afraid, but what state was Lord March's place left in after all the crowds had gone? I ask the question after talking to a friend who was at Glastonbury, and seeing pics in all the papers of the vast amounts of litter left there, apparently it will take an 800 strong army of litter-pickers and others, six weeks to restore the place to it's previous state, Michael Eavis's cows seem to leave less **** around than the pop fans did. Every year at Goodwood, I'm impressed by how clean and tidy everything is. A huge number of food & drink outlets, but very little litter. No trouble of any kind and a minimal Police presence, vast scope for theft and damage to valuable exhibits, but as far as I know, practically everyone was honest and behaved themselves. Apparently the loos at Glastonbury quickly became disgusting and barely usable, while anyone who attended the FoS would confirm that sanitary facilities there were just about as good as they could possible be for an event of this kind. It wasn't exactly "the right crowd and no crowding", but the numbers attending each event were very similar, so the difference can't be explained by the fact that Goodwood was blessed with better weather this year, though admittedly far fewer people camp at 'our' event. Also, I'd far rather listen to most racing engines than Dolly Parton or Metallica, that's probably just me showing my age, though Dolly claiming to be 68 is older than I am. Does anyone have a pic or two of what Goodwood looked like after the respectful and well behaved masses had departed?

 

I've never understood the particular problem with festival toilets. Only Turkish service stations in the middle of nowhere come close. And that's saying something, as I spent my childhood summers at steam rallies and country fairs.

 

Despite Bernie's whinging a few years back, the Silverstone facilities are perfectly acceptable, too. The Ladies' ones are, anyway.

 

The only organisational gripe I have with the Goodwood team is the lack of car park supervision on the way out, which leads to queues, aggression and overheating engines if you're unlucky.

 

Dad was on about a one-off car that was there, which was worth a hundred million pounds? He thinks it was a Targa Florio entry. Does anyone know what he might be on about?

[Breadmaster]

We parked at the Forest Rally Stage and were able to drive in and out without issue..... that's not a general public car park though

[dwh43scale]

I am reliably informed that the majority of tickets to the FOS are given away via manufacturers etc who are exhibiting at the Festival (hence the perennial "sell-out"), so get networking, Dipster!

 

After attending the FoS pretty much every year, Mrs H and I were somewhat disappointed this year. Not entirely sure why, but my reply to the question about the point of the FoS on the Midweek MotorSport Listeners Collective Facebook page perhaps sums up our feelings -

 

"Just got home from it and not sure we will do any more than one day of the Festival in future - sad to say. The early ones were brilliant (for many of the reasons above) but it is now very corporate / motor show / "eff wun" biased. TV appeared to be driving much of yesterdays timetable plus continual interviews with "stars" about the Ball. Am told many of the tickets are given out by manufacturers and, if so, it shows. Revival and Members Meeting much better GW events these days. We will be visiting the "real" British Hillclimb Championship in the near future to see real competitive hill climbing though ..."

 

Entry and exit from car parks has improved over the years however (coming in from the south east).

[dwh43scale]

 

Dad was on about a one-off car that was there, which was worth a hundred million pounds? He thinks it was a Targa Florio entry. Does anyone know what he might be on about?

 

The 1939 Tripoli GP Mercedes perhaps ? It was certainly talked about on the PA in those terms.

[Vitesse2]

The 1939 Tripoli GP Mercedes perhaps ? It was certainly talked about on the PA in those terms.

Not entirely accurately though. Especially by JYS. who claimed it was unique (well, it is, apart from the near-identical other one, the 'lost streamliner' and the never-completed fourth one), took 650 people to build and raced in 1938. Pretty sure he said he'd been told it was worth £2 billion too: one of the commentators suggested DB had rejected an offer of 200 million, although I'm not sure whether that was pounds, dollars, euros or yen.   

[kayemod]

Not entirely accurately though. Especially by JYS. who claimed it was unique (well, it is, apart from the near-identical other one, the 'lost streamliner' and the never-completed fourth one), took 650 people to build and raced in 1938. Pretty sure he said he'd been told it was worth £2 billion too: one of the commentators suggested DB had rejected an offer of 200 million, although I'm not sure whether that was pounds, dollars, euros or yen. 

Possibly Italian Lira, or Argentinian whatever they're using at the moment...

 

If a genuine ex-Fangio W196 'only' makes about £20million, I'd say that those guesses of the value of a W165 were hugely exaggerated, ten or fifteen fold at the very least. but it's academic as MB would never part with one. I'd say that an Uhlenhaut coupé or Sir Stirling's Mille Miglia winning 300SLR might fetch more, but again it's irrelevant as neither will ever leave Stuttgart, no matter how much they were offered.

 

And another thing, if it was JYS who suggested those irrational figures, maybe he was estimating the price in bawbees, what's one of those worth these days?

Edited by kayemod, 30 June 2014 - 14:16.

[Collombin]

I'm watching it now. And there's somebody from Mercedes (Rob Holloway, their PR manager ) who has just repeated the bloody paint scratching story.

The lawn was blessed with a glorious collection of large paintings, one of which depicted the paint removal taking place, complete with a caption underneath that celebrated Neubauer's "genius" in finding such an inventive way of getting below the weight limit..........