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[Catalina Park]

Why does my blocked user list only show the ones I have blocked since the upgrade?
For instance it shows [REDACTED] but it doesn't show a couple of others. They are still blocked but they just don't appear on the list.
It is hard to remember who I'm ignoring or even to stop ignoring someone if they don't appear on the list.

Edited by Buttoneer, 26 January 2014 - 19:16.
Mentioning a user who is on his ignore list is not the best idea

[Zmeej]

CatPartk
(assuming I'm not on your Ignore List )

When the upgrade first happened, this was happening to me too.

Now, all of the people who were on my IL have been unIgnored. This would irk me if the posts of folks I'd added since weren't being veiled, but since they are, know that I can simply add them again if necessary.

Maybe try clearing your IL and then fill it up again.


D.M.N.

If mentioning a user on an Ignore List is not a good idea, then why did you mention the user?

[Buttoneer]

I don't think DMN realises everyone can read that comment.  With the old software, a comment like that can only be read by the mod team or the user whose post has been edited.

 

I have removed the name, but left the comment, because DMN is right that it's not fair to name people.

[Zmeej]

[Allan Lupton]

I don't think DMN realises everyone can read that comment.  With the old software, a comment like that can only be read by the mod team or the user whose post has been edited.

 

I have removed the name, but left the comment, because DMN is right that it's not fair to name people.

Good fun whilst it lasted and particularly so for one who had been following a particular thread which he/she seemed intent on taking over.

[Catalina Park]

Zmeej, I have a hand full of people I'm ignoring but only one of them appears on the list. The list was clear till last week but their posts were still coming up as ignored.
I could clear the list to see if it works but that just might be a trick that the software developers want you to do.

The new forum software appears to be the work of an evil genius that has created a labyrinth of tunnels and wormholes just waiting to be explored by the brave and foolhardy.

[Andrew Hope]

I prefer the old fashioned technique of just reading every post until I see a bunch of 's next to something that sounds like it was written astride a very high horse and then remembering the avatar for future threads.

[Ross Stonefeld]

I don't bother either. I just skip the crap I don't want to read, which is most of it. 

[Catalina Park]

I only use it for special cases.
I use it to prevent me from falling for the bait and replying to an obvious troll rather than to just avoid reading crap.
It is gagging myself and not the other person.

[ElDictatore]

I don't bother either. I just skip the crap I don't want to read, which is most of it. 

 

Had me laughing out loud now. 

 

As for myself, I never bothered to ignore someone. I like to read all of it, even the trolls are quite interesting to read sometimes.

Makes me wonder though if I'm being ignored.

[Catalina Park]

You are being ignored. You have 477 posts and I have never seen you before.

[Zmeej]

I use it to prevent me from falling for the bait and replying to an obvious troll rather than to just avoid reading crap. It is gagging myself and not the other person.

+1

[275 GTB-4]

Is ignorance really bliss? ....the jury is out

[repcobrabham]

It is gagging myself and not the other person.

is this a technical thread or a personals ad?

it's been so long since I blocked somebody, I don't think anybody on my list posts anymore.

[Buttoneer]

Another vote for reading bareback.

[jcbc3]

Oh yeah - I love it when you talk dirty, Butts

[Option1]

That does it, I'm no longer talking to you! <footstomp>

 

Neil

[Brother Fox]

Oh yeah - I love it when you talk dirty, Butts

 

Never have I been more glad to see a comma.

 

 

I dont get the ignore thing either. Sometimes you fall into a troll trap but such is life.

Do we know if we're being ignored?

[275 GTB-4]

I dont get the ignore thing either. Sometimes you fall into a troll trap but such is life.
Do we know if we're being ignored?

I'm ignoring you right now...can you sense the vibe?

[ElDictatore]

You are being ignored. You have 477 posts and I have never seen you before.

 

How can you read my message then?

[Catalina Park]

How come I didn't read the other 476?

[tifosiMac]

Like anything I think its just a function that can be used at a user's discretion. Its all well saying just don't read certain posts and have self restraint, but the ignore fuction also makes the pages shorter for some threads as the posts you have no interest in reading are compressed within that page. Its a useful feature that can make the forum better for some, but if some don't feel the need to use it, then its simply a choice.

[AvranaKern]

I wish real life has this option too. I'd love to see jerks and bitches going mute or transparent near me.

[panzani]

Well, علي, that wouldn't be the real life, the real world any more, would it? Both real life world and their subsets (like BBs, for instance) will always have both nice and not so nice even terrible people. Ignoring them, in both instances, does no good but for them. It would be like — in the real world, I mean — the police pushing a button: ignore all criminals so they don't exist any more! imHo, of course.

[KWSN - DSM]

Trolls to some are the voice of reason and saneness to others. I disagree with some, agree with others and fall down the middle with most, do not see a need to have a filter on I just virtually shrug my shoulder and move on.

 

[Zmeej]

ali.unal
 

I wish real life had this option too. I'd love to see jerks and bitches going mute or transparent near me.

Edited by Zmeej, 09 February 2014 - 23:40.

[ElDictatore]

How come I didn't read the other 476?

 

Probably because I only post in Formula 1 related threads. Not that I wouldn't care about all the other stuff, my knowledge is just very limited to contribute anything.

[tifosiMac]

Trolls to some are the voice of reason and saneness to others. I disagree with some, agree with others and fall down the middle with most, do not see a need to have a filter on I just virtually shrug my shoulder and move on.

 

My hat is doffed to you for that restraint

 

A filter is still not a bad thing though do you think? If it works for some people and is in effect a silent filter simply for that person, it is surely positive. I think the ignore function for many of us is reserved for very extreme cases. I wouldn't ignore somebody because they don't share my view, this is a discussion forum after all. I would only place individual on it that I have assessed as providing nothing of any value, IMO. I wouldn't publicly name anybody as nobody really needs to know, its private. If ignoring someone means there is less temptation for conflict, I'm sure it makes the mods jobs a lot easier, and I say that from someone who has struggled in the past

[sopa]

I know an ignore option exist in forums, but never really come to an idea I should be using it. Guess I have been doing what Ross Stonefeld does. Concentrate attention on the important stuff.

 

I don't bother either. I just skip the crap I don't want to read, which is most of it. 

[Zmeej]

KWSN - DSM

I just virtually shrug my shoulder and move on.

Am still trying to figure out whether I envy folks of your equanimity.

[Slartibartfast]

It's going to be a bugger if the only person who knows the answer* to the original question is on the ignore list.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*It's not 42. 

[Zmeej]

Hmmm. So it's a reference to a highly specialised coding sequence, but not in the D.Adams idiom?

[panzani]

Mr. Z. — I know why you don't take part in the quiz: you'd miss half the answers because you ignore half of us!

[Catalina Park]

I can't believe there hasn't been any replies since the end of January.

[jcbc3]

Maybe you are on their 'ignore list'?

[The Kanisteri]

Ignore lists are quite stupid.

Imagine forums being just big aquariums and some troll fish wounding you. As response you just will wear bandage of "ignore list" on your eyes and you are feeling you are safe from sharks? No you are not. You just don't know when you get bitten and from where.

[jcbc3]

lol - I am not quite sure I follow your logic, but Iam in the KWSN group. Don't use ignore.

[tifosiMac]

Ignore lists are quite stupid.

Imagine forums being just big aquariums and some troll fish wounding you. As response you just will wear bandage of "ignore list" on your eyes and you are feeling you are safe from sharks? No you are not. You just don't know when you get bitten and from where.

To be honest if I have chosen to ignore someone using the function, it means I have no wish to see what they are saying. If they are responding to my posts or for example trolling, then I think its a good option not to be able to see that. Its just like a privacy function on any social media as far as I can see. You could also argue its just a way of customizing the way you use the forum. I know there is a similar function on Facebook I use and although its not for quite the same reason, it makes the experience a little better for me. For example there are people I know on Facebook where you are 'friends', often out of politeness because you've known them in the past etc. However they may constantly whine or put up things that really wind you up, but instead of making the obvious shun of deleting them, you have the option to hide them from your feed. In effect not be able to read what they are sharing unless you click on them to view. Much like on Facebook the ignore function on this forum is not obvious, so the people who are being ignored have no idea. I'm sure people will say Facebook is rubbish in response to this but I am just offering an example.

 

In an ideal world its great to say you can just ignore them but read what they have to say without responding. But in some, very special circumstances its nice to just block out some of the things you have grown tired of. I don't see how that is stupid as its personal choice and affects nobody really. Neither using the function or not using the function is a bragging right, its just what works for the user IMHO. I get the impression this is one of those things that really shouldn't be admitted as this in itself seems to strike up debate. I must admit I am surprised by that. Do we have the same disapproval of those using different themes here? Afterall that is a choice too and is really just a custom option to the individual. I say just use what works best for you and be happy 

[Buttoneer]

Not sure that forum ignore and Facebook are really comparable.  On a forum there is a conversation, and someone whose opinions you don't normally agree with or who raise too difficult points (because lets face it, these are the people who are most often labelled 'troll' around here) will often say something very relevant to the discussion.  Ignoring them means you miss that, and lose the discussion at the point they entered it.

 

On Facebook you can simply hide posts from someone who posts irritating stuff and there's no threaded discussion to lose track of.  I can't be arsed with all the fluffy 'pass this on and make someone happy' shit that one of my neices constantly bothered me with so I simply unfriended her.  I really don't see how that is in anyway insulting.  If she was putting some effort into her spam, it might be difficult to defend that, but in the circumstanced, unfriend seems right.  She can always ask why if she even notices.

 

I really don't care what score someone got on Candy Crush.

[Brother Fox]

Maybe Im weird, but I think you should be aware of who is ignoring you (said as someone who doesnt use the function).

 

If you want to be able to ignore them with a function and have no consequences then its a little sad in my book.

[tifosiMac]

Not sure that forum ignore and Facebook are really comparable.  On a forum there is a conversation, and someone whose opinions you don't normally agree with or who raise too difficult points (because lets face it, these are the people who are most often labelled 'troll' around here) will often say something very relevant to the discussion.  Ignoring them means you miss that, and lose the discussion at the point they entered it.

 

On Facebook you can simply hide posts from someone who posts irritating stuff and there's no threaded discussion to lose track of.  I can't be arsed with all the fluffy 'pass this on and make someone happy' **** that one of my neices constantly bothered me with so I simply unfriended her.  I really don't see how that is in anyway insulting.  If she was putting some effort into her spam, it might be difficult to defend that, but in the circumstanced, unfriend seems right.  She can always ask why if she even notices.

 

I really don't care what score someone got on Candy Crush.

I disagree there but perhaps I didn't explain it as clearly as I intended? I wouldn't put people on ignore simply because I rarely agree with what they have to say. It would be reserved for people who I felt simply say things consistently for effect and whom I feel don't add anything of value to the discussion (IMHO of course), therefore are excluded from the forum feed. If people ignored everybody that they didn't agree with, there would be little point having a discussion in the first place. That was not what I was suggesting. If somebody says something relevant then it will generally be commented on by others in the discussion so I don't think you miss it entirely, plus with ignore you can choose to view a post if you really want to. I tend to dip in and out of this place so miss the flow of most discussions anyway, but I am sure most people are not monitoring the forum on a constant basis.

 

My comparison with Facebook was relevant to my point because I felt it is a similar concept. If I am sick of seeing somebody moan, I have the option to hide them without deleting them completely. Games can be blocked in privacy settings and yes, seeing games scores is highly annoying for me too as I play no games on Facebook. You can hide such statuses in settings without hiding anything else that user might post which may be of use or interest. I don't generally delete people if I think I might see them in person either as I have had a couple of awkward situations in the past. I bumped into an old mate who I had deleted and it was one of the first things he asked. I had to lie and say it must have been a glitch before adding him again. This time I hid him so he would still appear on my list, but his content was hidden from me. Happy days. Although it seems silly, these trivial things can cause offence to some people who take Facebook too seriously. At least if you can ignore somebody discreetly, it caused less offence much like on this board.  Anyway that's off topic but I thought it illustrated my point. If not, I know what I mean lol

[tifosiMac]

Just out of curiosity I checked my preferences and I only have one person on the dreaded ignore list. This person hasn't posted in quite a while so the irony here is I am not losing out with any threaded discussion after all. I still think having the restraint to ignore somebody consciously and using the function are pretty much the same thing, just using different methods. I don't think there is a right or wrong nor is either method sad IMO

[Buttoneer]

I wouldn't put people on ignore simply because I rarely agree with what they have to say. It would be reserved for people who I felt simply say things consistently for effect and whom I feel don't add anything of value to the discussion (IMHO of course),

 

 

Exactly!

 

In your HO you are ignoring someone who you feel does not add anything to the discussion.  I do not not who it is, but I could hazard a guess, (though won't for obvious reasons) and if he did not raise valid points he would be removed if we started getting (key point) valid reports about his behaviour.  We don't remove people simply because others do not like what they say and report them, we do it because they are being pontlessly antagonistic or breach other more specific rules.

[tifosiMac]

In your HO you are ignoring someone who you feel does not add anything to the discussion.  I do not not who it is, but I could hazard a guess, (though won't for obvious reasons)...

Without going into too much detail and hinting here, I doubt you would guess right to be honest. The poster I added was not somebody I had any direct discussions with and was not really a well known person here I don't think? They had less than 180 posts and had only been here a short while. I just saw enough of their input and felt it antagonistic at that time to make the decision to ignore. I doubt they knew I had done this either. They haven't posted for quite some time so it may be a case that their behaviour has been dealt with by yourselves. Who knows but it made my experience better at the time when I used the function. As I said though I've only used it in extreme situations in the past and more often than not I have reversed the action after a period of time. Its pointless to some but handy for others, and I hope it remains a feature.

[panzani]

Well, the above posts perhaps make some sense to those who just post in RC, dunno. But in PC, ignoring certainly means something very different — it means one can not cope with different opinions or respond to them at all. So, instead of giving up, they ignore and pretend nothing was posted... Am I wrong?

[Zmeej]

tifosiMac - it's nice to just block out some of the things you have grown tired of. I don't see how that is stupid as it's personal choice ...

Edited by Zmeej, 23 February 2014 - 22:26.

[AvranaKern]

All users I happily ignored are from Racing Comments. Just so you know. I love hearing from you and reading your posts in Paddock Club.

[tifosiMac]

Indeed the RC section is very different to the PC. Luckily I don't think I have ever felt the need to ignore anybody from PC as its a very different tone in there. I don't think I have ever encountered anybody I have ignored from the RC section in PC either? That might be because in the past the people I have ignored have not been successful gaining access or have no interest in that section? This site is what you make of it and its good to have options.

Well, the above posts perhaps make some sense to those who just post in RC, dunno. But in PC, ignoring certainly means something very different — it means one can not cope with different opinions or respond to them at all. So, instead of giving up, they ignore and pretend nothing was posted... Am I wrong?

I would never make the decision to ignore someone simply because they have a different opinion to my own. There wouldn't be any point in contributing to a debate or discussion if you couldn't handle opposing views. As I said though the Paddock club has a very different tone and I think there is less friction from what I have seen. I spent more time there than discussing F1 these days lol.

[Brother Fox]

I don't think I have ever encountered anybody I have ignored from the RC section in PC either?

 

How would you know if you're ignoring them?

[Catalina Park]

How would you know if you're ignoring them?