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I Gran Premio delle Vetturette 1921 - Type 13 or Type 22 ?

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#1 arttidesco

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 21:08

Looking at the results for the I Gran Premio delle Vetturette on this link it show's quite clearly that 4 Type 22's were driven in the I Gran Premio delle Vetturette on Sept 8th 1921, however on this link if you can hold the 4th pane for long enough it states quite clearly that four Type 13's were first over the line, can anyone give me a definitive indication who to believe ?


#2 Michael Ferner

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 21:21

Oi, the problem of retroactively assigned type numbers rears its ugly head - AGAIN! :eek: :eek:



To expand a bit, the Types 22, 23 (and 25?) were all considered to be developments of the 13, and most Bugantics today refer to the racing versions exclusively as 13s, while the other numbers are reserved for lwb production cars. I'm not sure how much of that is based on mythology, and how much on research, but in some ways it's become accepted "truth". In period, all these cars were only ever refered to as "Brescia Bugattis".

Edited by Michael Ferner, 25 February 2014 - 21:26.

#3 Felix Muelas

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 21:29

"Four cars were entered by Bugatti, these had bored-out 68 mm engines giving a capacity of 1,453cc." "The Brescia victory was a turning point for Bugatti, the motor racing world now regarded him as a significant racing manufacturer while the T13 and its variants became known as the immortal "Brescia" model."
David Venables, Bugatti. p. 28/29

#4 arttidesco

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 21:42

Thanks Michael and Felix, to further confuse the mater elsewhere on the Bugatti site linked here on the time line for 1921 a photo pops up of a LWB vehicle (Type 22?) bearing the #9 which according to the teamdan site was an OM :confused:

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 12:03

If I am right the addition of "Brescia" to a Type 13, 22 or 23 is only applicable when it is equipped wit a 16 valve engine as opposed to regular Type 13-22-23's with 8 valve engines.

But of course there may be exceptions to this.


All I know is I like these little Bugs :-)

Edited by Barttore, 26 February 2014 - 12:04.