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[lbennie]

So, I was right and the award is because of the 4 consecutives WDC. That makes more sense.

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.
 

He was, far and away, the best driver last year, regardless of what he was driving.

Edited by lbennie, 27 March 2014 - 03:30.

[meister]

 

He was, far and away, the best driver last year, regardless of what he was driving.

 

You can never make that statement because the car is such a huge factor in the sport. Its far easier to look the best when you have the best car and effectively only have 1 car to beat, your team mate.

[lbennie]

You can never make that statement because the car is such a huge factor in the sport. Its far easier to look the best when you have the best car and effectively only have 1 car to beat, your team mate.

 

It's also very easy to look rubbish when you are in the best car.

 

He broke some very impressive records under a lot of pressure.

Webber was a quality opponent too, much more than people give him credit for.

[Mercedestorque1]

Congratulations Marc Marquez! well deserved!cMoto Gp's future Great!

[0Fritz]

What other fields of sports ? 

 

I'm not saying they're 2nd rate competitors , I'm saying it's a lot easier to judge Rafa Nadal against Mo Farah than it is to compare him to Vettel or Marquez. Why ? Because Seb (nor any other driver) would have won in , let's say a Mclaren.  It's just much harder to judge. We can't evn decide on the best driver each year  , never mind compare them to other sportsmen. Not trying to diminish Vettel or Marquez , if there was 2 driver/riders to win it this year , they'd be the 2 , but I just think it's too hard to compare F1 drivers to other athletes.

 

Nadal also had advantages other players didnt have, and has so much money he can hire coaches, trainers, doctors, nutricianists and test on whatever courtground, gravel grass or indoors in whatever weather he likes. Vettel is restricted to 3 pre race tests. Big football clubs like City didnt just come up because their players improved through training, they bought the best players and trainers and facilities available. So yes, equipment and resources is a factor in other sports too.

 

 

You can never make that statement because the car is such a huge factor in the sport. Its far easier to look the best when you have the best car and effectively only have 1 car to beat, your team mate.

 

Yet Vettel won 2 of his 4 titles in a title deciding last race of the season so his car wasnt that much better. You also dont factor in the fact that his opponents simply made more mistakes than Vettel, and he worked against the odds when he himself (arguably) did make a mistake like at abu dahbi and Brasil 2012.

 

I think Vettel won it on merit. Just like Marquez. They are outstanding talents deemed the best of their peers. Well done to them.

[showtime]

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.
 

He was, far and away, the best driver last year, regardless of what he was driving.

First of all he was not competing only against other F1 drivers so I may consider him the best 2013 driver and at the same time think his 2013 performance is not deserving of the best sportman of the year award. Second, Have you seen the video? What part of "The academy decided to give this award to you because you made history by winning four consecutive world championships at the age of 26..." didn't you understand? But yeah, it must be me making that up.

[halifaxf1fan]

Not really big news. Starting from 2000, only F1 World Champion not nominated has been Jenson Button. Schumacher won it twice.

 

 

Well deserved award for Sebastian.  Right in there with Schumacher where he belongs as a multi wdc winner.

[apoka]

What part of "The academy decided to give this award to you because you made history by winning four consecutive world championships at the age of 26..." didn't you understand? But yeah, it must be me making that up.

 

In general, they are asking 46 high profile judges for the best performance of the past year. Nevertheless, I guess it's always a mix of your career to date and what you have achieved in the previous year - it's not easy to completely separate the two, especially in F1.

[showtime]

In general, they are asking 46 high profile judges for the best performance of the past year. Nevertheless, I guess it's always a mix of your career to date and what you have achieved in the previous year - it's not easy to completely separate the two, especially in F1.

I know what they ask for but we have an academy member explaining the real motives of the choice. I guess they want only consolidated winners to avoid devaluing the award even if the members should (in theory) only judge 2013 performances.  

[bourbon]

I know what they ask for but we have an academy member explaining the real motives of the choice. I guess they want only consolidated winners to avoid devaluing the award even if the members should (in theory) only judge 2013 performances.  

 

The Laureus World Sports Award nominees are among the most remarkable men and women from the world of sport along with the greatest sporting achievements fans have marvelled at throughout the year.

 

That means great sportsman + great sporting achievements throughout the year.  You have to have had an outstanding performance in the year that you are nominated (with few exceptions which are discussed on the website if you are interested).  If you have a body of work previous to that year, that is also celebrated.  The "nomination" is how that is celebrated - so all of those nominated were outstanding on the year.

 

Winners are often outstanding over a period of time as well as in the year nominated.  That is what mark's an outstanding sportsman - generally - they have a continuous body of high level outstanding work.  Usain Bolt, Rafa Nadal, Cristiano Ronaldo, Sebastian Vettel, Missy Franklin, Serena Williams, etc., all have an outstanding body of work behind them and were outstanding on the year nominated.  They can't all win - but each is deserving.

 

I am unsure why anyone on this BB would wish to do else but celebrate and praise Sebastian for his brilliant body of work and 2013 season - which was to put it mildly - incredible.  His achievements went beyond numbers (i.e., nine race wins in a row, thirteen on the year) - the Laureus does not celebrate numbers except as a by product of the extremely hard work the athletes put in, including Sebastian.  His preparation and continued dedication and effort are what lessened the cockpit incidents, ensured a fit driver in body and mind and prevented costly errors.  It all looks so easy - but as Rosberg pointed out last race, there is a hell of a lot going on in the cockpit maintaining that 20 sec lead.  And to do it consistently through changing tracks, tyres, set ups and other factors, is remarkable.

 

That is what the Laureus is celebrating in this case.  Race fans should be 100% behind that in support of a major award recognizing the champions of a sport we love.   Some sports are not celebrated by Laureus at all.

[showtime]

I am unsure why anyone on this BB would wish to do else but celebrate and praise Sebastian for his brilliant body of work and 2013 season - which was to put it mildly - incredible. 

 

Because this is not Sebastian Vettel's fanboys BB so people often have different opinions.

 

As for the rest, my God, you truly love the man, he should make you his PR manager. Somebody should ask Nico what was easier, driving a car like last season or the rocket he has now. If he could cruise like he did in Melbourne. What was more challenging and demanded more of him as a driver. Think about that.

You say the Laureus does not celebrate numbers, I'm sorry to open your eyes but that's the only thing these type of awards celebrate. I didn't expect you to be so naive to believe all the nice words they write. And that's why Vettel is a worthy winner, he certainly has the numbers, no doubt about that. And he also is a great sportman, most of the drivers in F1 are. 

 

It's getting boring anyway, I won't disturb the celebration and praise festival anymore. 

[Velocifer]

The small mindedness of some F1 fans when they can't celebrate or even acknowledge that it was an F1 driver that became sportsman of the year just because it wasn't their favorite driver.. 

[kenkip]

Fantastic stuff Seb Vettel!Well deserved,I thought that he had no chance winning it (IMO Redbull team of the year would have been a better bet.)

Incredible some F1 fans cant look past their hatred and see that the sport is getting some good press in positive news.For goodness sake he was up against Mo Farah for crying out loud!!!

 

The thing about F1 being dependent  on machinery,let me ask you this,would Lionel messi have won 3 champion's leagues if he played for Deportivo? Weather you like it or not,Messi has quality team mates and a big team to support his every whimp.He is a big talent that is in the best club in the world,just like Sebastian Vettel.

 

Another example,I am Kenyan,and Mo Farah seriously pisses me off!He is a huge talent but also very well sponsored.What he does,he comes here to Kenya,trains with the the elite African athletes here at high altitudes,then goes to USA for specialist training there,something our athletes cant afford.then he pummels us on the long distance races.Do we complain that he has an advantage over our boys?No.Thats his luck and we accept it like that.Same with Vettel,he has earned his drive at Redbull,nobody gave it to  him for free.Thats why I celebrate him.

[LHamilton0810]

They both thoroughly deserve the awards! Vettel dominated in a field including some of the best drivers ever to bless Formula 1 and Marquez, in his rookie season, beat both Lorenzo and Pedrosa hands down! They may have crashed causing them to miss or do poorly in certain races but he could've quite easily crashed and injured himself but he didn't, although he did have some horendous crashes he's looking great for this season too, the new Rossi perhaps? or even better!!

[Exb]

In this years awards Daniel Ricciardo has won the category for Breakthrough of the year

Very well deserved after a fantastic 2014 season.

 

Shame to see Mercedes missing out after their total domination last year but at least F1 has been recognised again.

[apoka]

In this years awards Daniel Ricciardo has won the category for Breakthrough of the year

Very well deserved after a fantastic 2014 season.

 

Shame to see Mercedes missing out after their total domination last year but at least F1 has been recognised again.

 

Ricciardo was flawless last year, great wheel-to-wheel, had the necessary luck to win races and was the master of tyre preservation. Well deserved award.