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[caz]

Can anybody tell me the names of famous motor racing brothers, other than the Schumacher brothers. I understand that there are five sets in total, of which three have raced together at some stage of other.

Cheers

[Darren Galpin]

1990 - Gary & David Brabham
1962 - Pedro & Ricardo Rodriguez
1981 - Jacques & Gilles Villeneuve
1952 - Graham & Peter Whitehead

[Don Capps]

Just off the top of my head:

Tim, Bob, Fonty & Ethel Flock
Bobby & Donnie Allison
Davey & Clifford Allison
Richard & Maurice Petty
Rusty, Mike & Kenny Wallace
Mike & Pete Argetsinger
Stirling & Pat Moss

[quintin cloud]

what about Ian & Jody Scheckter 1974

[Joe Fan]

Darrell and Michael Waltrip
Terry and Bobby Labonte
Jeff and Ward Burton
Bobby and Al Unser Sr.
Geoff, Todd and Brett Bodine
David, Jeff and Mark Green
Elliott and Hermie Sadler
Troy and Joe Ruttman
Dale Jr and Kerry Earnhardt

[Frank de Jong]

What about Jim, Loek and Huub Vermeulen. Jim and Loek are twins, all three have raced several times in the same race, mainly Formula Ford and Super Ford. Fred & Rien Frankenhout, dutch touring car drivers. The Vermeulen & Frankenhout brothers raced in the same team in the 70´s (...)

Tim & Tom Coronel, twins.

[fines]

Maurice et Henri Farman, Marcel et Louis Renault, Giuseppe e Luigi Fagioli... now didn't we have that already in another thread?;)

And Darren, don't forget Geoff Brabham!!!

[Gil Bouffard]

The Whittingtons, Don and Bill, though (convicted) drug runners raced at Le Mans and in IMSA.

Then there is Dick and Jim Rathmann or was it Jim and Dick Rathmann.
Merle and Tony Bettenhausen.
The Colliers, Sam and Miles (I get 100 bonus points for that one)
The two sons of Jody Scheckter, Tomas and Tobie?
Peter and Doug Revson
Harry and Philippe Schell

Gil

[Gary Davies]

Corrado and Teo Fabi and ...

Jackie's elder brother Jimmy Stewart. Primarily an exponent of sports cars, Jimmy did start in one Grand Prix, in an Ecurie Ecosse Cooper Bristol in the 1953 British Grand Prix.

[Darren Galpin]

Fines - true, but he wasn't in F1, which is what I thought the original question was driving at. I tried to list the brothers who had been in F1 at the same time.... (at least year)

[Gil Bouffard]

I guess caz's assumption was that we would know that he meant Formula One..

Gil

[LittleChris]

Don,

Since we're on the subject of brothers, I'm not sure that Pat Moss would be too happy at being referred to as a bloke !!

Chris

[Hans Etzrodt]

What about the Andretti brothers, two generations?

Pierre and Fernando de Vizcaya <1923-1927>

[SteveB2]

Want about Emerson and wilson Fittipaldi? They raced together in F1. I can't see how they wouldn't fit caz's requirements.

[jarama]

...and don't forget the Brambillas, Vittorio and Ernesto.

[jarama]

In the rally fields we have the Toivonens, Henri and Harry, and the McRaes, Colin and Alister.

[indysteve]

Originally posted by Gil Bouffard
Merle and Tony Bettenhausen.

Don't forget Gary!

[FLB]

The Villoresis, Gigi and Mimi
The Beltoises, Julien and Anthony (Jean-Pierre's sons)

Three pair of Andrettis:

Mario and Aldo
Micheal and Jeff
John and Adam

[Hans Etzrodt]

Giovanni and Matteo Ceirano (the first generation) raced in 1899.

[fines]

... weren't there even more Ceirano Bros.?

[Hans Etzrodt]

Giovanni Ceirano established his own company after WW II and his son Ernesto Ceirano raced Ceirano cars in the early twenties and possibly had done so before. I don't know of any other Ceirano racing in the twenties.

[Falcadore]

The Brabhams, Geoff, Gary & David
The Winkelhocks, Manfred and Joachim
The Fertes, Alain and Michel
The Warwicks, Derek and Paul
The Speraficos, Riccard & Roberto (twins)
The three Aoki brothers of bike racing fame from Japan, one of whom was seriously injured a few years ago

there wer two Guereros weren't there?

The Geoghegans, Leo and Ian
The Bates', Neal and Rick (twins)
The Brocks, Peter and Phil
The Jones's, Kim and Brad (sort of Kim manages, Brad races)
The Kelly's, Todd and Rick

[fines]

Roberto Guerrero (CO) and Carlos Guerrero (MEX) are not related. The Sperafico brothers are Ricardo and Rodrigo, the Aokis Nobuatsu, Takuma (partially paralysed since his accident in 1998) and Haruchika (double World Champion in 125 cc). And don't forget the third Winkelhock, Thomas!

[FLB]

Fines, Jaime Guerrero (former British F3 IIRC) is Roberto's brother.

[Ray Bell]

Falc... I'm sure you'll find Kim's name in the entry lists in FF somewhere in the late seventies or early eighties...

[Jimmy Piget]

NON F1, sorry :

McGarrity (Irish F2 scene of the '1970s) — Patsy & Harold
Cheever — Eddie & Ross (Japanese F3000 in the '1980s)
Trintignant — Maurice & Louis (who drove a GP Bugatti in the '1930s and was killed at the 1933 GP de Picardie at Péronne)
Mather (British club races of the '1970s) — Kim & Mike
Pollock (Irish F2 scene of the '1970s) — Jay & John
Lazier (IRL) — Buddy & Jacques
Worswick (BOSS) — Tony & Nigel
Chevrolet (AAA races of the '1910-1920s) — Louis, Gaston & Arthur
Benoist — Robert & Maurice (cyclecar races of the '1920s)
Groff (Indy cars) — Robbie & Mike
Boillot — André & Georges
Gené — Jordi & Marc
Kinser (US dirt scene) — Sheldon & Steve
Boss (Indylights) — Geoff, Andy & Pete
Guinness — Algy (sir Algernon) & Jack (Kenelm)
Maserati — Alfieri, Carlo & Ernesto (I quote only the race drivers)
Masetti — counts Carlo & Giulio
Birrell ('1970s F2) — Graham & Gerry
Conelli — Caberto & Franz
Rigal — Victor & Louis
Nikrent — Joe & Louis
Niemann (South-African scene) — Brausch & Nols
etc.

[dbw]

mothers and sons???..........anyone??

[Jimmy Piget]

Lucy O'Reilly (who married Laurie Schell) was the mother of Harry & Philippe Schell. All four racing drivers.

[David McKinney]

Jimmy
You can add Bindo Maserati
and two more Trintignants - Henri and Raoul, IIRC

[cabianca]

Masten & Riddelle Gregory, altho only one in F1.

[Jimmy Piget]

OK, David, and BTW either Henri or Raoul Trintignant is the father of actor Jean-Louis who competed some times in the Paris-Dakar raid.

Brothers again : the Dobsons (late '1930s), the Ghika-Cantacuzène (early '1930s), the Nanninis (Guido, elder than Sandro, raced in the British national F2 series) and the Larinis (young bro of Nicola — what was his name ? — raced italian F3 in the late '1980s).

And, please don't forget Michel and Jean-Pierre Vaillant !

[Jim Thurman]

Originally posted by Jimmy Piget
NON F1, sorry :

Kinser (US dirt scene) — Sheldon & Steve
etc.

Sheldon was Steve Kinser's uncle. Bob Kinser (who also raced Sprint Cars) was Steve's father.

There are so many Kinsers, it's hard to keep track of all of them. Karl, Kelly, Kraig, Mark (I know Kraig is Steve's son, past that, I have trouble ).

Very good list Jimmy, especially including the likes of the Boss brothers.

There have been many brothers (and for the other thread, sons) of well known U.S. drivers, who never got to the "big time". Hard for me to remember off the top of my head...

Johnny Rutherford's brother Wayne raced Midgets and did some SCCA Club racing.


Jim Thurman

[Carlos Jalife]

The Behras, José and Jean.
The Jourdains, Michel, Bernardo, Pio and Patrick (plus 3 others if you count rallying - they ran one rally in Mexico at the same time)
The Solanas, Moisés and Hernán (aka Nanán),
plus the Rodríguez had another brother, Alex who ran several races such as the 1000k of Mexico in the early 70s and then there were several sets of brothers in the Panamericana in the 50s and even a daughter-father pairring which turned out disastrously when the driving daughter, Teresa Paninni overturned the car and the father was killed.

[Jimmy Piget]

Daughters ?

Patsy Burt was the one of a '1920s Brooklands driver I don't remember the name (Eric ?)

Renée Friderich, the daughter of Bugatti driver Ernest, was killed the 24 February 1932 while doing the Paris-St Raphaël rally. She also had a brother, Paul, who tried to compete in 1946-1947 GPs but for noughts.

It'll be useful if someone with a lot of time with him or her could compile this file (along with the other one on families), building an alphabetic list that we couls fill the gaps of ? (not me, not enough time)

[ensign14]

Originally posted by dbw
mothers and sons???..........anyone??

Teresa Earnhardt, mother of Dale Jr, is a car owner.

[fines]

Originally posted by Jimmy Piget
Renée Friderich, the daughter of Bugatti driver Ernest, was killed the 24 February 1932 while doing the Paris-St Raphaël rally. She also had a brother, Paul, who tried to compete in 1946-1947 GPs but for noughts.

One thing I always wanted to have confirmed: Friderich - is this the right spelling? I've seen Friedrich, Friederich, Fridriech etc...

[Jimmy Piget]

Dear Fines,
I confirm the spelling I used : FRIDERICH.
My sources, as usual, are birth / death certificates.

[fines]

[FEV]

This thread is a good opportunity for me to ask you guys about the Parsons : can anyone enlight me on all them racing Parsons ? I am only sure of one thing : the Johnnie-Johnny-Johnny III trio. But what about Sportscar great Chuck ? Was he part of the family ? And what about the NASCAR ones : Benny and Phil ? I believe Parsons is a fairly common name in the USA and as I never read or heard about any relation between all them I guess there isn't, but I'd like to be sure...
Thanks

[Jim Thurman]

Originally posted by FEV
This thread is a good opportunity for me to ask you guys about the Parsons : can anyone enlight me on all them racing Parsons ? I am only sure of one thing : the Johnnie-Johnny-Johnny III trio. But what about Sportscar great Chuck ? Was he part of the family ? And what about the NASCAR ones : Benny and Phil ? I believe Parsons is a fairly common name in the USA and as I never read or heard about any relation between all them I guess there isn't, but I'd like to be sure...
Thanks

fines, you are right, Parsons is a pretty common name and no, Chuck Parsons was no relation to Johnnie/Johnny. The NASCAR Parsons, Benny and Phil, are brothers though.

I guess I shouldn't mention early 70's Canadian NASCAR driver Vic Parsons

Despite being a fairly common name, there have been quite a few Parsons in racing. Not as many as Baldwins, but quite a few.


Jim Thurman

[Bjorn Kjer]

Tom and Jacob Kristensen , Denmark

[frogeye59]

Originally posted by jarama
In the rally fields we have the Toivonens, Henri and Harry, and the McRaes, Colin and Alister.

Also the brothers Henning and Petter Solberg

[Gerard Gamand]

Can I put here the Duqueine brothers ?

One was a fine driver (Gilles), the other one a good technician (Vincent) ans they built the first carbon chassis in 1984 Formula 3 : the Duqueine VG4 (For Vincent and Gilles)

Here Gilles (on the left) and Vincent

[Bondy]

I guess Bordering on Famous, but well known in Australia at least ;)

the Bargwanna's....
Harry, Alf and John???? in Torana XU1 Sports Sedans....

The Lusty Brothers, Graham and John
The Gibson's, Paul, Grant, the late Bevan and Carl.
The Kelly Boys, Rick and Todd

[Ray Bell]

This might seem a Petty question...

Were they only fathers, sons and grandsons?

The Kellys have got two mentions so far, by the way.

In very much lesser fields we had Michael and David Lance and Ross and Leigh Porter, Ross and Graham Smith, Gary Scott I'm sure had a brother that raced, Ian and Ken Peters, Terry and Peter Cornelius (and their father), Ron and Austen Tauranac.

More famous were Jackie and Jimmy Stewart... I don't think they were mentioned so far?

[Twin Window]

Unless I've missed them, Roger & Stan Clark and Tim & Tony Brise have yet to be mentioned.

[MoMurray]

Nor have Derek and Vivion Daly although Vivion did not make it to F1

Mo.

[Bondy]

Sorry Ray i did'nt see the Kellys....

As for the Bargwanna's i thought Harry and Alf were brothers, i put the question to John as i was unsure. I remember a pic in RCN and i thought it said brothers in the caption but its been many years since i saw the pic....

[gerrit stevens]

Although in another thread and partly in this one but far from complete.
Three Whittington's took part in Indianapolis; Bill, Don and Dale.
Pancho Carter and Johnny Parsons jr. were brothers.

And of course a very nice couple of Unsers with an incredible record at Pikes Peak.
Three Unser brothers of the first generation (Louie, Joe and Jerry)
Second genearation: Jerry, Louie, Bobby and Al.
Third generation: Bobby jr., Robby and Jeri (sons and daughter of Bobby)
I don't know if Al jr. and Johnny have racing brothers/sisters.

Gerrit Stevens

[Alexey Rogachev]

Juris Belmers and Valdis Belmers