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#1 Doug Nye

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 19:03

Does anyone have any details of Sylvain Garant's crash in a Ferrari 250GTO at Albi, Feb 23 1964? He was hurt in the incident but I don't know how badly, nor do I have any recollection of it happening...though I now know it most certainly did. The car was '3769 GT'...not one with which I am currently involved, in case anyone wonders...  :rolleyes:

 

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#2 ensign14

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 19:24

Garant was back in 3769 for the Tour de France starting on 11 September, making it as far as Pau, where he was outside the time limit, so any injury to either was not lasting.



#3 Vitesse2

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 19:45

From a post at Autodiva:

 

Sylvain garant a bien acheté la 1ere GTO 3769GT en decembre 1963 il la repeint en bleue de france .il l'engage au RDN 64 et termine 2eme derriere l'aston DB4GTZ conduite par Claude Leguezec. Ensuite il participe aux coupe d'Albi qu'il domine mais dans le dernier virage du dernier tour un roulement de roue arrire grippe et c'est la sortie de route. La voiture est envoyee chez Ferrari pour reconstruction ...

Rear wheel bearing failed - while leading - on the final corner of the last lap, if I'm reading it right.



#4 Doug Nye

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 19:51

Thanks.  I knew both car and driver survived the experience. Nothing about him being injured in the incident then?

 

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Edited by Doug Nye, 26 July 2014 - 19:52.


#5 Vitesse2

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 20:05

Small picture from Albi: http://www.ferrariau...613a1909ac586f9

 

Neither car nor driver seem to have suffered excessively. This is from a post at Forum-auto:

 

19/5/63 Gp de Paris - Montlhery: Sylvain Garant 250 GT Berlinetta Competition S 2937GT  8em et  1er GT
6/10/63 coupe du salon - Montlhery Sylvain Garant 250 GT Berlinetta Competition S 2937GT n°12  2em GT
7/2/64 rallye des routes du Nord Sylvain Garant/Dupeyrat 250 GTO 3769GT n°2 2em 2em class
23/2/64 circuit d'Albi Sylvain Garant 250 GTO 3769GT n°50  ac
20/3/64 rallye Nationale de l'Ouest Sylvain Garant 250 GTO 3769GT   3em class
2/5/64 rallye de Picardie Sylvain Garant/Dubosc 250 GTO 3769GT  ab
30/5/64 rallye du Limousin Sylvain Garant/Kay 250 GTO 3769GT  7em
8/8/64 Trophés du Cognac S. Garant 250 GTO 3769GT   1er class
16/8/64 course de cote du Mont d'Ore S. Garant 250 GTO 3769GT  8em 1er GT
20/9/64 tour de France Automobile Sylvain Garant 250 GTO 3769GT n°171  5em class ???
20/9/64 tour de France Automobile Sylvain Garant/Lanners 250 GTO 3769GT n°171 ab ???
20/9/64 coupe de Paris - Montlhery Sylvain Garant 250 GTO 3769GT  5em 1er GT
4/10/64 coupes du salon - Montlhery S. Garant 250 GTO 3769GT  3em 1er GT
25/10/64 rallye de l'Agaci Sylvain Garant/Stoikovitch 250 GTO 3769GT   2 class
29/11/64 rallye des Cevennes S. Garant/Stoikovitch 250 GTO 3769GT  18em 1er class

http://www.forum-aut...et378569-35.htm



#6 Doug Nye

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 20:53

Shows how quickly Ferrari could rebuild a badly damaged car - I have just seen photos I cannot post here which show frantic efforts to extract the apparently unconscious driver, the car having apparently rolled over and back onto its wheels, then crashed backwards into a trackside bank.  Its right-side and especially the right-rear have taken the brunt of impact, while the roof is crushed down at the rear and tented around the windscreen area. I must say, poor old Garant did not look at all well...

 

When Ernesto Prinoth's GTO rolled at Monza in the 1964 Coppa InterEuropa it wound-up inverted amongst the shrubbery.  From photos of that car's extraction from the boondocks amongst which it had landed it seems that the Monza recovery team coupled up a Jeep and simply dragged the car out, upside down, which then collapsed its roof.   Prinoth emerged unhurt.  

 

Ferrari and Prinoth between them then had that car raceworthy again within three weeks and one week later still he won his class with it and finished 2nd overall in the aerodrome races at Innsbruck.  That is the GTO which sold to Fabrizio Violati the following year, and that's the one with which I have been working recently, and which is coming up for sale at Quail Lodge, California, next month.  Both the GTOs and their drivers were plainly extremely resilient old warriors...

 

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Edited by Doug Nye, 26 July 2014 - 20:57.


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Posted 26 July 2014 - 21:22

Shows how quickly Ferrari could rebuild a badly damaged car - I have just seen photos I cannot post here which show frantic efforts to extract the apparently unconscious driver, the car having apparently rolled over and back onto its wheels, then crashed backwards into a trackside bank.  Its right-side and especially the right-rear have taken the brunt of impact, while the roof is crushed down at the rear and tented around the windscreen area. I must say, poor old Garant did not look at all well...

 

When Ernesto Prinoth's GTO rolled at Monza in the 1964 Coppa InterEuropa it wound-up inverted amongst the shrubbery.  From photos of that car's extraction from the boondocks amongst which it had landed it seems that the Monza recovery team coupled up a Jeep and simply dragged the car out, upside down, which then collapsed its roof.   Prinoth emerged unhurt.  

 

Ferrari and Prinoth between them then had that car raceworthy again within three weeks and one week later still he won his class with it and finished 2nd overall in the aerodrome races at Innsbruck.  That is the GTO which sold to Fabrizio Violati the following year, and that's the one with which I have been working recently, and which is coming up for sale at Quail Lodge, California, next month.  Both the GTOs and their drivers were plainly extremely resilient old warriors...

 

DCN

...sad car (3851GT) the only fatality, with a GTO, was with this car (Oreiller Monthléry 1962)--then after rebuilt to Colombo,Prinoth and Violati!

 

Michael


Edited by Tuboscocca, 26 July 2014 - 21:23.


#8 Doug Nye

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 21:25

Indeed.  And a perfectly happy car for the past 51-plus years then.

 

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 21:31

Indeed.  And a perfectly happy car for the past 51-plus years then.

 

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...and 'hellish' tuned in historic racing!!

 

Michael



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 07:15

Quite well tuned - and with, in European Historic terms, a well wired-up driver at its helm. Started it up the other day and with side exhausts it is, I must confess, electrifying.    :drunk:

 

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 14:41

Quite well tuned - and with, in European Historic terms, a well wired-up driver at its helm. Started it up the other day and with side exhausts it is, I must confess, electrifying.    :drunk:

 

DCN 

Doug  ..must confess: I'm envious!!

 

 

Michael