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[MadYarpen]

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Everything they do makes me less interested in watching F1.

[Tourgott]

Awful.

 

This is really not my F1 anymore. Awful sound, awful cars, awful tracks, awful racing (DRS, lift and coast, ...). What's left?

Edited by Tourgott, 07 August 2014 - 07:59.

[mgs315]

Bah, what a load of crap.

If they turned it into a banking it would've been cool.

[Jovanotti]

Bullshit

[Briz]

My family has decided to stop eating pasta because of this.

[Brother Fox]

So not content with killing the sport, they're now engaging in necrophilia

[tifosiMac]

Takes the skill out of the corner.

 

Drivers races could be ended stuck in the gravel there in the past and it demanded respect and caution. I hope we don't see more crashes as a result of drivers taking bigger risks because they know they can run wide.  

[Raziel]

That´s it! They´ve destroyed every F1 track!

[Kristian]

Well that's the final insult. 

 

Has the gravel there actually caused ANY kind of issue in the last decade or so, apart from stopping drivers from running wide and making it one of the trickiest corners to get right on the calendar? 

[Collombin]

If it had been tarmac instead of gravel in 1970 then maybe Emerson Fittipaldi would still be with us today.

Oh, hang on...

[1Devil1]

My family has decided to stop eating pasta because of this.

Next embargo please against Italy. Go EU

[JeePee]

Oh man what a shame 

[DaddyCool]

Great, this was a corner where if you made a mistake it ruined not only your current lap, but your next one as well, making it one of the trickiest in the world.

 

I guess now you jut let the car run into the runoff and floor it so you lose basically nothing on your second lap.

[Cyanide]

What's next? Indicators on every track showing what gear you should use at every corner. 

 

Stop holding drivers' hands for Christ's sake. 

[thiscocks]

They must know pretty much EVERYONE is against this tarmac run off bullshit. It really is getting ridiculous now, and makes every track SO bloody BORING.

[MP422]

I don't care if they put a run off there. 

Edited by MP422, 07 August 2014 - 07:52.

[P123]

It takes away the risk that was there if the driver got it ever so slightly wrong. No more walking the tightrope around that corner.

It's the same for Spa, a track which is now only moderately interesting if it rains.

[sportyskells]

when will people stop moaning about tarmac runoffs, it might help in a brake failure type of issue

[teejay]

when will people stop moaning about tarmac runoffs, it might help in a brake failure type of issue

 

How, the car will wipe NO speed off.

 

At least the gravel traps give guys a chance.

[joshb]

Wait for the Lesmos to go the same way too.....

[Kvothe]

Courtesy of Zantkiller on Reddit:

This was done to allow recovery vehicles to get the cars out quickly meaning we don't have to deal with long safety cars.

Anybody who goes off at that point has had a catastrophic failure like Webber in 2011 and is out of the race anyway.
They have only changed the entrance run off not the exit where you can easily recover cars.

Good change IMO

 

[7MGTEsup]

Why don't they just make a big tarmac square and then paint the outline of the track on it? That way they could hold all the races in one location and save a fortune?

[TecnoRacing]

Disgusting...

 

Wonder where the push for this stuff is coming from...F1...or FIA? or the track owners responding to trackday lameos and gentleman 'racers'

[KingB]

Awful. Just awful.

[kosmos]

Please insert a shortcut to skip parabolica if the drivers desire it. Thanks.

[f1RacingForever]

Well it is safer and drivers will most likely be able to continue if they go off which is good for viewers. I feel like these decisions get too much criticism. I understand the desire to punish driver mistakes but there are other good reasons for this and more and more of this will happen in the future so fans will just need to get used to it

[SPBHM]

they should just race on huge car parks with lines painted on the ground as a track 

[Gilles4Ever]

they should just race on huge car parks with lines painted on the ground as a track 

Caesar's Palace 1982

 

[Briz]

Why don't they just make a big tarmac square and then paint the outline of the track on it? That way they could hold all the races in one location and save a fortune?

 

Pretty good idea

[Jon83]

Well it is safer and drivers will most likely be able to continue if they go off which is good for viewers. I feel like these decisions get too much criticism. I understand the desire to punish driver mistakes but there are other good reasons for this and more and more of this will happen in the future so fans will just need to get used to it

 

How is it good for viewers? What are the good reasons for this change?

 

It just takes away more skill, which real fans appreciate.

 

Every single decision made affecting this sport is a bad one at the moment. I've never known a season like this, in that regard.

[Ducks]

It was always going to happen, Bernie needs flat edges for his superimposed adverts.

[Lotus53B]

I hate to say this, but you could use asymmetric kerbs - won't affect the recovery cars but if they run off onto the tarmac they'll have to drive slow and wide to get back on - and they won't be upto speed going onto the start-finish straight...

 

Edit - I never could spell asymmetric...

Edited by Lotus53B, 07 August 2014 - 08:45.

[SophieB]

That's hugely disappointing. I suppose it is definitely real? I can't really see why it would be fake or misleading but I guess I just hope.

[f1RacingForever]

How is it good for viewers? What are the good reasons for this change?

It just takes away more skill, which real fans appreciate.

Every single decision made affecting this sport is a bad one at the moment. I've never known a season like this, in that regard.

Well drivers will not get beached if they go off meaning the should be able to continue. I think its safer too. Downside is less punishment for mistakes but there are rarely any accidents at the parabolica to begin with. I don't think drivers are going to be running wide there so I have no concern about gaining advantages.

[Muppetmad]

That is a sad, sad sight. Completely unnecessary.

[Jon83]

Well drivers will not get beached if they go off meaning the should be able to continue. I think its safer too. Downside is less punishment for mistakes but there are rarely any accidents at the parabolica to begin with. I don't think drivers are going to be running wide there so I have no concern about gaining advantages.

 

No idea what is safer about it.

 

If drivers end up beached because of a mistake then tough, that's racing.

 

 

[Exb]

Is this a recent change? (sorry I can't see the facebook post as I'm at work so have no idea what it says)

I only ask because I remember back near the start of the season (can't exactly remember when) and there was complaints on here about adding tarmac to a corner at another track and one poster made a remark similar to 'if you think thats bad wait to see what they've done to Monza' as I had booked tickets to Monza it kind of stuck with me and I'm just wondering if this is perhaps what they were refering to? but obviously if its only just been done then it can't be.

[eronrules]

as this will have ZERO effect on the racing actual, i could care less. also, aside from F1, this track is used for varieties of motorsports and this might actually save someone from some horrendous accident someday (if the paving is actually recent)

 

if people really want to bitch and moan about everything ... Benie is getting off the hook easy with his 100M fine from a case which probably earned him a billion. yet i'm waiting to see one of the above posters mentioning that.

Edited by eronrules, 07 August 2014 - 09:19.

[f1RacingForever]

No idea what is safer about it.

If drivers end up beached because of a mistake then tough, that's racing.

I feel similarly somewhat but I remain open to different ideas.

[Spillage]

This is an act of butchery.

[ArkZ]

Ruining the best turn in F1.

[Nonesuch]

From the photo on that Facebook page, it doesn't look like it goes all the way - simiar to the post earlier in this thread.

 

I've always thought the exciting part of Parabolica is the middle to end, not so much the entry. If the entry can be made safer and more accesible for track marshalls while the rest of the corner stays challenging by virtue of its graveltraps, then it doesn't seem as bad.

[thegamer23]

what a farce

[Kristian]

when will people stop moaning about tarmac runoffs, it might help in a brake failure type of issue

 

Looks at Ericsson's spin in Hungary... he ended up having a massive shunt because no speed was wiped off at all. In gravel I'm sure it would have been less. 

[DampMongoose]

I hope those responsible had the decency to be underneath that tarmac. 

[johnmhinds]

Disappointing, but at least it look like they've left a gap between the track and the tarmac run off which looks like it might be filled with the same grass that was there before.

 

Before:

 

After: 

Edited by johnmhinds, 07 August 2014 - 10:05.

[ConsiderAndGo]

Dreadful. Remind me of how many serious/fateful injuries have happened there in recent times?

 

I real shocker by the FIA - The corners challenge no longer exists.   

 

Cowards.

[Jovanotti]

Although there seems to be a strip of gravel between track amd tarmac run-off..? If so, then at least they'd have a prototype corner how things could be done if there's really no way around tarmac.

Edited by Jovanotti, 07 August 2014 - 10:14.

[NoSanityClause]

Sorry, but all the news I could find about this is that facebook page and a tweet from some guy from Mexico posting that exact same pic.

 

How reliable is this info?

Edited by NoSanityClause, 07 August 2014 - 10:19.

[Burtros]

mountains and mole hills again. We really need an end to this summer break, people go mad I swear.

 

So the question of the tarmac run off.

 

I dont care. It doesnt change the racing, I dont mind cars going off and coming back on, doing it there is going to result in the driver loosing time through the bend, just not as much as before.

 

Another thing, you have to assume the FIA and tracks do this because its proven to be safer. If thats the case and the bend is now safer, then who am I and who are we to complain?