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#1 Alfisti

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 14:45

IMVHO the race last year was out and out the best motor race i have ever seen. 100+ laps of safety car free racing, genuine racing, it was phenomenal. There's no hope of repeating that but here's hoping we get another goody. 

 

Not been following the series closely so has merc improved their engine and what's Erikkson up to? last year he was scary good. 



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#2 TimTams

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 15:02

Erikkson? I'm not familiar. :confused:



#3 HoldenRT

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 15:24

Another legendary track, especially the top of the mountain through to forest elbow.  They don't make tracks like this anymore.  Natural and flowing following the natural curves and elevations of the location is always the best way.  As opposed to the car parks that most tracks seem to be these days.



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Posted 24 September 2014 - 15:42

I've only been following V8 Supercars the last couple of years and the thing I love about Bathurst is how close the cars are running after 6+ hours of racing. In a sense it's a shame for sports like the WEC. While I love the sport, I get a little bored at times at the ease (obviously not 'easy') at which cars can go a lap down.. but that's the nature of the beast I guess! :up:



#5 Alfisti

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 16:03

Cars being close after 6 hours only counts if there was no safety car which is nearly impossible. however it DID happen last year, 4+ hours of non-stop green flag brilliance. 



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Posted 24 September 2014 - 16:08

IMVHO the race last year was out and out the best motor race i have ever seen. 100+ laps of safety car free racing, genuine racing, it was phenomenal. There's no hope of repeating that but here's hoping we get another goody. 

 

Not been following the series closely so has merc improved their engine and what's Erikkson up to? last year he was scary good. 

 

Erebus Mercedes did get a win this year with Lee Holdsworth (Winton 500), but that was no thanks to their engine, which still is the Achilles heal of that car. In fact Mercedes has been overshadowed by the storming appearance of Volvo in the Gary Rogers outfit. Scott McLaughlin got in two wins, 6 poles and a few podiums, but the car had a few issues with the alternator resulting in DNF's. Also Robert Dahlgren is going through the same difficulties as Alex Premat and Maro Engel before him.

 

Don;t know who you mean with "Erikkson", but I'm guessing Mattias Ekström. Well, as Triple 8 don;t have a third car in Bathurst, he's not on the roster.



#7 Alfisti

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 18:23

Yeah Ekstrom, close enough. He was fantastic last year, cannot understand why someone would not pick him as a 2nd driver. 



#8 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 22:51

Cars being close after 6 hours only counts if there was no safety car which is nearly impossible. however it DID happen last year, 4+ hours of non-stop green flag brilliance. 

Last year was the first year in many without a safety car in the last hour. And 'safety' cars create safety cars.

Last years race was good. 

BUT the minnows were given advantages too with a mandated number of stops. At this time the 4 valve engines need more fuel to get remotely the same pace. The traditional engines would win by a far greater margin as they could get away with one less stop.

And this year again on race pace the Fords or Holdens will win. They will probably tie Whincups hands behind his back to make it more 'fair' on the others. 

So even if they race, it will still have a level of choreography. The days Brocks wins of the 70s and 80s would not be tolerated!

We may see a Volvo on pole though. Young Scott has the pace and Garry Rogers are putting together good cars. Though I doubt he will be on the outright  pace after 40 laps.



#9 Alfisti

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 02:20

For the most part the minnows were non factors. It was a ****ing brilliant race. 



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 03:11

I am so dirty over V8SC scheduling the media day at the same time as the 12 hour I am tempted to not go as my little protest, but I know I am full of sh!t and will be there from Thursday til Sunday

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 03:33

It's always a great race, last year especially.

 

Car #1 lost the race on Lap 92, 430 km before the finish! Just couldn't get it back afterwards. The Bright/Tander/Lowndes fight was awesome to see as well.

 

The 12 hours isn't a threat, the last three 1000 races have been decided by less than a second all up. You can't beat the 1000km V8 race - the 12 hours isn't even in the same class - they should embrace the 12 hour for the positive effect it has on Australian motorsport. Motorsport is tiny here, the more people and events the better.



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 04:40

Nice little build-up to the race



#13 JForce

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:41

I've really been enjoying V8s this year - as a Lowndes fan it's been annoying to watch him fade as Whincup found form - Frosty hasn't been as strong as he needs to be, but he could change that through the endurance races in terms of points.
 
As a kiwi I have been impressed/happy with Scott McLaughlin, he's been awesome and the Volvo has been pretty good if a bit unreliable, and it's even interesting that it's problems as far as tyre wear are the opposite to the rest of the field.  I would like to see some more consistency from Coulthard and van Gisberg.  It is also nice to see HRT coming good and being able to challenge Red Bull.
 
Alex Premat was actually pretty good at Sandown - initially I reacted with the usual "why do they keep asking him back" but he had a really strong race.  I'd like to see Craig win Bathurst, but regardless there are always enough surprises and/or excitement to make it a good one to watch.
 
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Posted 25 September 2014 - 08:37

Alex Premat was actually pretty good at Sandown - initially I reacted with the usual "why do they keep asking him back" but he had a really strong race

 

 

I'm actually hoping Premat can return full-time in Australia in 2015. He already has a year experience over Dahlgren and was only ousted because Volvo wanted a Swedish Driver (shoulda picked Ekström outta DTM then   ;) )



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Posted 26 September 2014 - 07:16

Mount Panorama Circuit with your guide Mark Skaife :D

 

 

http://www.gdecarli....athurst alt.gif < circuit elevation changes  :D

 

Entry List

http://www.v8superca...up-drivers-list

 

Triple Eight Race Engineering

1 Whincup/Dumbrell Red Bull Holden

888 Lowndes/Richards Red Bull Holden

 

Walkinshaw Racing

2 Tander/Luff Mobil/SP Tools Holden

22 Courtney/Murphy Mobil/SP Tools Holden

47 Slade/DAlberto Supercheap Holden

222 Percat/Gavin HHA Holden

 

Erebus Motorsport

4 Holdsworth/Baird Erebus Mercedes-Benz

9 Davison/Davison Erebus Mercedes-Benz

 

Brad Jones Racing

8 Bright/Jones BOC Holden

12 Coulthard/Youlden Lockwood Holden

21 Wood/Pither Advam Holden

 

Ford Performance Racing

5 Winterbottom/Owen Pepsi Max Ford

6 Mostert/Morris Pepsi Max Ford

55 Reynolds/Canto Bottle-O Ford

18 Perkins/Waters Jeld-Wen Ford

 

NISMO

7 Kelly/Buncombe Jack Daniel's Nissan

15 Kelly/Russell Jack Daniel's Nissan

36 Caruso/Fiore Norton Nissan

360 Moffat/Douglas Norton Nissan

 

Dick Johnson Racing

16 Pye/Walsh Wilson Ford

17 Wall/Johnson Wilson Ford

 

Lucas Dumbrell Motorsport

23 Ingall/Blanchard Holden

 

Volvo Polestar Racing

33 McLaughin/Premat Valvoline Volvo

34 Dalhgren/Ritter Valvoline Volvo

 

Tekno Autosports

97 Van Gisbergen/Webb VIP Petfoods Holden

 

 

Dates

8-12 October 2014


Edited by V8 Fireworks, 28 September 2014 - 02:43.


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 07:26

Merged, there was a thread already for the subject. :)



#17 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 07:27

Thanks Victor, sorry I didn't spot it.  But Skaifey's lap is great.  I would like to see Hamilton and Rosberg give a corner by corner commentary while blazing around at 9.5 tenths! :D

 

Next year no v8 sc drivers allowed to race the silky Ferraris, McLarens etc in the bathurst 12 hour which is a shame, #bastards.  :well:  At least they will ply their trade muscling these unwieldly so-called "race cars" here in the 1000km.  :D


Edited by V8 Fireworks, 26 September 2014 - 07:30.


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 09:21

Mount Panorama Circuit with your guide Mark Skaife :D

 

Those were the days. :p



#19 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 01:18

Thanks Victor, sorry I didn't spot it.  But Skaifey's lap is great.  I would like to see Hamilton and Rosberg give a corner by corner commentary while blazing around at 9.5 tenths! :D

 

Next year no v8 sc drivers allowed to race the silky Ferraris, McLarens etc in the bathurst 12 hour which is a shame, #bastards.  :well:  At least they will ply their trade muscling these unwieldly so-called "race cars" here in the 1000km.  :D

Brock and to a lesser extent Johnson used to do that when racing. And dont forget the racecam pioneer Peter Williamson too. These the days before the near mandatory 20 to go pacecar so they were racing for the lead, not just to stay somewhere near the front.

Brock in particular was oh so casual, talking with his hands while on pace setting laps.



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 01:28

Bathurst race day is a day I look foward to every year. I gather a bunch of family and friends in my garage, fire up the BBQ, have the fridge in said garage fully stocked with copius amounts of alcohol and let the fun begin.



#21 Alfisti

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:51

I get a good blanket and a few cdn clubs and coke to keep me awake dang it. Stupid Canada. 



#22 wonk123

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 02:57

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Looks like a perfect weekend weatherwise



#23 Richard T

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 03:02

Aye, what a perfect motorsport weekend :wave: :up:

#24 teejay

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 03:18

That Murphy lap still gives me goosebumps



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 03:27

I'm hoping Frosty can win it with Steve Owen and get his championship back on track but Whincup/Dumbrell have to be the favourites.... :(



#26 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 07:51

Well Done Reynolds! 2:06.37

 

Good sign that FPR are quick!



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 08:00

Reynolds looked quick all day. Even though they didn't impress in the last flurry of quick laps, the Datsuns looked quick as well



#28 Sheepmachine

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:13

What time does it start uk time?

#29 king_crud

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:29

What time does it start uk time?

 

Race starts at 10am oz time, so will be 1am UK time



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 12:01

Make sure you take daylight saving into consideration when converting too

Bathurst is on Daylight savings time (this is obviously for those OS)

Edited by Brother Fox, 09 October 2014 - 12:02.


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 12:16

A couple of memorable moments that stick out to me, at least.

 

 

I wish I was in a better country than the UK to watch it. It's always on at silly o'clock. One year I may stop up and watch it through. :lol:

 

Although this year with it being on MotorsTV, and MotorsTV finally being on Freeview, I don't really have many excuses to not watch it...



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 13:31

Make sure you take daylight saving into consideration when converting too

Bathurst is on Daylight savings time (this is obviously for those OS)

 

when did/does NSW go on summer time?



#33 Brother Fox

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 13:35

It started on Sunday just gone. Those poor bastards with their faded curtains and confused cows

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 13:52

OK, so that makes it a ten hour difference, so race will start at midnight Saturday in the UK



#35 Alfisti

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 19:00

7pm for me. Sweeeeeeeeeet. 



#36 Option1

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 19:04

Kewl, there goes Saturday night.

 

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 20:38

I'll be watching simultaneously with the NASCAR race as well, should be very confusing at 2am, particularly if they both start discussing Marcus Ambrose...

 

 

Next year no v8 sc drivers allowed to race the silky Ferraris, McLarens etc in the bathurst 12 hour which is a shame, #bastards.  :well:  At least they will ply their trade muscling these unwieldly so-called "race cars" here in the 1000km.  :D

 

That will be devastating - SVG was absolutely epic in that race :eek:
 



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 20:44

Next year no v8 sc drivers allowed to race the silky Ferraris, McLarens etc in the bathurst 12 hour which is a shame, #bastards.  :well:  At least they will ply their trade muscling these unwieldly so-called "race cars" here in the 1000km.  :D

 

Oh well, the way things are going the 1000 will be a GT3 race by 2017.


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#39 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 01:33

Headlines today 'Ford will be killed off V8 circuit at end of 2015'.  Ford are pulling out of sponsorship then. 

Though quite possible the series will be gone at the end of 2015 with the Foxtel deal that itself has nearly killed the series.

The majority of contributors on  Advertiser on line [News Ltd] have pointed out the cars have no relevance to road cars, the Foxtel deal will preclude or limit their viewing.

Looking at Natsoft reults yesterday, the headline class at Bathurst has the second  smallest entry. And really no entry was great. And the way they were crashing yesterday may have a smaller one yet!

Entrys, 28 Dunlop series cars 39 Aussie Racing Cars.  30 utes. 29 TCM cars and 23 Porkers where at least 3 so far are out of 109%. And I think they only get one qualifying session.



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#40 Alfisti

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 01:48

Kewl, there goes Saturday night.

 

Neil

 


Worth $15 for a good quality stream ya reakon?

#41 teejay

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 02:06

I always LOVE hearing from Lee in V8 threads - such a positive and happy feel to the posts.



#42 Alfisti

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 02:21

Just 23 entrants?

#43 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 02:23

I always LOVE hearing from Lee in V8 threads - such a positive and happy feel to the posts.

What,, commonsense and truth. As well as news reports is negative? 

The negative is V8SC them selves



#44 Brother Fox

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 02:30

It's just that all your news seems to be negative :)

#45 Brother Fox

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 02:31


Worth $15 for a good quality stream ya reakon?


Ask yourself, what would you pay for a sandwich and a coffee ... Do you think 6+ hours of this is worth more?

#46 KOMORI

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 03:39

Winterbottom banged in a 2:05.9 in prac 4!!!

Wowsers!!

#47 KOMORI

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 04:32

Qualifying is on now...

Reynolds hit the wall HARD in McPhillamy, Whincup into the wall in the cutting.

Two big names starting waaaaay down on Sunday!

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 04:50

Wow Coulthard with a 2.05.608!!

Provisional pole with a few minutes to run in qually..

#49 BellisEndis

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:40

What,, commonsense and truth. As well as news reports is negative? 

The negative is V8SC them selves

 

 

Classic Lee :wave:

 

 

I always look forwards to loading up racing comments and seeing a v8 thread up near the top...



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Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:41

Just 23 entrants?

 

 

Bent cars don't set times... 26, two wild cards dropped out before the race.