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[Lights]

Very funny Max.

[zanquis]

Sure it is possible, Doornbos was 17 when he went to a F1 race and decided that he wanted to do that too, few years later he was driving F1, k not a champion but he was there and was beating David Couldhart even.

More extreme? Damon Hill started racing at age 21, first on bikes then to cars and became champion. So is it too late? no but you need talent, and people to support you and patience to get there. Don't give up or take a jump so big that you can only fall.

There where even chances for drivers from other classes that could have made the switch to F1. For instance Rossi had his chance if he wanted too he could have driven F1. Maybe now he is regretting it cause when he had his chance he was thinking he would keep winning, and since then not really won much at all.

On sidenote, I would not be suprised if Marc Marquez will someday try to do a Surtees if he keeps winning so easily.

[Dick Dastardly]

Nigel Mansell re-mortgaged his house and worked as a window cleaner to raise funds to enable him to do F Ford and F3 I believe

[Michael Ferner]

More extreme? Damon Hill started racing at age 21, first on bikes then to cars and became champion. So is it too late? no but you need talent, and people to support you and patience to get there. Don't give up or take a jump so big that you can only fall.

Surely Possible doesn't want to become the weakest driver in history to ever become champion!?!

[zanquis]

Well, it would make all those Damon Hill fans happy that he would finally lose that tittle.

And if anything, this forum proves is that no matter how weak compared to all other legend you are, some people will defend you and stay fan

Edited by zanquis, 05 November 2014 - 16:39.

[kayemod]

Nigel Mansell re-mortgaged his house and worked as a window cleaner to raise funds to enable him to do F Ford and F3 I believe

 

I remember that when he did that and kept telling everyone about it, the general reaction was that he was very fortunate to have a house that he could re-mortgage, most of the guys he was racing against didn't.

[garoidb]

I remember that when he did that and kept telling everyone about it, the general reaction was that he was very fortunate to have a house that he could re-mortgage, most of the guys he was racing against didn't.

 

Is fortunate the right word? I thought he and Roseanne bought the house in the normal way through savings and/or a mortgage. Didn't they both work for a living? 

[JacnGille]

Is fortunate the right word? I thought he and Roseanne bought the house in the normal way through savings and/or a mortgage. Didn't they both work for a living? 

If I might chime in. I think the point was is that they had enough "extra" money to be able to buy a house in the first place. They weren't living "hand to mouth" as many of their contemporaries did.

[ianselva]

I'm afraid I think people are being too condescending here.

If you have no racing experience nor a multi-millionaire relative ,you have virtually no chance of getting into F1, never mind about being World Champion. It seems like you have been lead astray by talk of millions of pounds/dollars/roubles /whatever. A great proportion of the current grid are only driving because they bring a fortune ijn sponsorship with.

If you are truly interested in racing rather making a lot of money -get started in a low category and see if you can win there.

Edited by ianselva, 06 November 2014 - 17:07.

[E1pix]

That's right, Ian. As with most ventures, passion goes much further than desire for wealth and fame.

I've said for years this is partly why Brazil turns out so many great drivers, whereas America struggles to. It seems our boys do it for money and fame primarily, and that's sad. When our guys win they act unaffected except for being cocky about it, whereas Brazilians cry like little girls when they succeed. Seen it a hundred times and that's proof enough for me.

Gotta start at the bottom. Danny Sullivan's F1 relationship with Tyrell began as a floor sweeper, after all... keep the dream alive, work hard, and never stop believing.

[Michael Ferner]

I guess Mr. Possible has long since forgotten about his big F1 dream. Right now he's probably on another forum, asking for advice how to get casted for "India's Got Talent"...

[MCS]

And getting older.  When was his birthday again...?

[bill p]

I guess Mr. Possible has long since forgotten about his big F1 dream. Right now he's probably on another forum, asking for advice how to get casted for "India's Got Talent"...

My thoughts too!

What are your thoughts, Mr Possible?

[zanquis]

I think the idea of being the new Damon Hill probably scared him off.

[stuartbrs]

Unfortunately, the old saying rings true "there are no poor kids in motorsport"

[Possible]

I have not forgotten my dream.There were some problems.Dear Miachel Ferner,I am not here to do time pass.But however I have been searching and I am feeling that I have no chance at all.I am really feelin like cryin.Not even a single biography goes with me.Max verstappen,Jehan daruwala etc are of my age and already ready for F1.Dear Miachel,it's just that you don't wanna give me false hope and I really appreciate you for it.But can you tell me how long can I go if I start now and if I am really really master in driving?.Thanks.

[Possible]

How did Vitaly petrov got a chance?

[bill p]

Possible, have you tried Googling Force India Academy yet???

There is info on how the 2014 Academy progressed

Bill

Edited by bill p, 07 November 2014 - 18:52.

[Nemo1965]

I have not forgotten my dream.There were some problems.Dear Miachel Ferner,I am not here to do time pass.But however I have been searching and I am feeling that I have no chance at all.I am really feelin like cryin.Not even a single biography goes with me.Max verstappen,Jehan daruwala etc are of my age and already ready for F1.Dear Miachel,it's just that you don't wanna give me false hope and I really appreciate you for it.But can you tell me how long can I go if I start now and if I am really really master in driving?.Thanks.

 

Kid, don't come here and give your blood to the regular vampires. You are just making their day by posting stuff like this. Just start making a move, in karting, in Lada-racing, whatever, and sees what it brings you. There are some members of these Forums who have real driving experience, even some posters who have worked in F1, but they don't post here because of the afore mentioned trolls.

 

Get out of here, young man!

[Sharman]

Nemo1965, on 07 Nov 2014 - 16:45, said:

Kid, don't come here and give your blood to the regular vampires. You are just making their day by posting stuff like this. Just start making a move, in karting, in Lada-racing, whatever, and sees what it brings you. There are some members of these Forums who have real driving experience, even some posters who have worked in F1, but they don't post here because of the afore mentioned trolls.

 

Get out of here, young man!

I rather think it is you who are on the wrong forum. I'm sure you would be more at home on RC. This is a relatively gentlemanly place given to fairly erudite discussion of motor racing, cars and drivers from an age which was not ruled by commercial interests but by enthusiasm.

[Ross Stonefeld]

The advice so far has been terrible. I would never want to demotivate a youngster(or anyone, frankly) but it needs to be based on a particularly frigid reality. Making it if every single thing goes right is a terrible plan. You wouldn't try to pay your bills by winning the lottery(god help the people who are stuck in those situations). We need to keep away from this idea that passion/effort alone will make it. As if anyone can just become Steve Jobs. Ignoring that so so many people, companies, ideas, etc fail through no lack of passion. You need everything else too. You always have. And nowhere more so than racing. Passion didn't save Marussia or Caterham.

 

Doug's advice is the best. Look for the scholarships that have worked. Mainly the Nissan GT scholarship thingy(which I think Karun Chandhok is promoting in India?) or even the Sahara Force India karting thingy.

 

Becoming a professional racing driver is an incredibly difficult, almost impossible, thing to accomplish if you're not already starting with the family history, or connections, or money, or business connections, or all the things you need to afford it. Trying to become an F1 driver is the equivalent of moving to Hollywood and hoping to become  star. Yeah some people did, but do you know how many people in LA live on the streets because they 'followed their dream'? Sometimes your passion will get in the way of your judgement.

 

Again, like Doug Said, check out the Nissan GT Academy. Or get really clever at business and marketing. Not just promotion, anyone can make noise on Twitter and Facebook, but actual business. You have to show people you are worth something to them. They're not going to help you out of charity. That goes for any normal job too. If you can show you add value, you'll get somewhere.

[ensign14]

I guess Mr. Possible has long since forgotten about his big F1 dream. Right now he's probably on another forum, asking for advice how to get casted for "India's Got Talent"...

 

I see what you did there. 

[ensign14]

One chap I kept an eye on as he came up was Scott Mansell.  Had he made it to F1, it would have been most intriguing; bypass the lower formulae entirely and get used to the power and techniques for Formula 1 by driving Formula 1 - just a bit older Formula 1.  I suppose the problem with that route is the lack of competition.  I know historics have a lot of eager hotshoes, but it also has a lot of hobbyists, more than GP2 does, so you have a lot fewer anxious wannabes to beat.

[Nemo1965]

I rather think it is you who are on the wrong forum. I'm sure you would be more at home on RC. This is a relatively gentlemanly place given to fairly erudite discussion of motor racing, cars and drivers from an age which was not ruled by commercial interests but by enthusiasm.

 

Ahem. Have you seen what this young man has been confronted with?

 

Barking up the wrong tree, Sir!

[Cirrus]

I suppose the problem with that route is the lack of competition.

 

Absolutely! These days it's relatively easy for a good driver (ie someone who's won in F3) to get into an F1 car and put in a decent time. A bit of coaching and access to the data from another (quicker) driver in the same car can tell you where you're going wrong. Driving an F1 car that's a few years old won't prepare you for wheel to wheel combat like this...