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[CHIUNDA]

Possibly because that's one of only a handful of situations where Lewis hasn't caught and overtaken Nico seemingly at will. Apart from Monaco and Canada last year, when was Nico able to hold off "Hammer-time"?

 

 

Brazil 2014

[RubalSher]

The good news is that Lewis was 2-3 seconds faster than Vettel on the slower albeit fresher tyre. Monaco should be more of the same except it is a 1 stopper and track position should decide the result. Nico has never won 2 in a row in his career and Lewis should keep it that way

[Rickyf1]

I hope Lewis can get it together for Monaco

[PAGATRON]

Yeap, him and his team.

[RekF1]

Brazil 2014

I actually meant Brazil and not Canada (that one had too many variables). My point is Lewis has demonstrated his ability to overtake more often than Nico, so for some to suggest that "had the shoe been on the other foot Nico would be scolded" etc, might have a point, it doesn't h happen often enough the other way to warant questioning Lewis' overtaking ability.

[Will]

I just hope this start issue is not going to be recurrent

Edited by Will, 11 May 2015 - 11:32.

[Riverside]

Will Nico be helping Lewis with his starts at the post race test?

 

Comments like this are rubbish.  If Mercedes has one driver at a test and an issue on another car be it brakes, starts, DRS .. whatever -

The team works on team problems. Had there been a test after Germany last year and a test with Rosberg in the car - what do you think 

he would be doing?   

[Riverside]

If the positions were reversed we'd be saying precisely the same thing but tenfold.

The biggest tonking in a while between the pair I feel.

If it were Nico we'd be bemoaning his inability to pass Vettel, I'm sure of it.

I feel a tad humbled, but it makes the battle a tad sweeter because they're both top drivers.

20 points is quite small as well...

 

Good on you Tom for honest opinion ..  

[Riverside]

I don't think Hamilton can perform as worse in qualifying as he did last year, which is what flattered Rosberg greatly.  If he drives to his potential in qualifying and nails his laps, then he can shut Rosberg out in 2015, which is my prediction. 

 

 Bold prediction.  Didn't hold up ... 

[CountDooku]

What BS is this about Lewis having a bad weekend because he can't pass?  Barca is notoriously difficult to pass on because unless you have a huge tyre advantage, you will ALWAYS lose time when following a car up to the final straight.

 

Lewis' race was messed up by the start and his botched pit stop, but he finished in the correct position so all other arguments are moot. His qualy position effectively ensured he would finish 2nd anyway.

 

Rosberg won the weekend with his mega pace on Saturday. Even if Lewis was faster on Sunday, there's no way he's getting past Rosberg.

 

Any attempts so tar Lewis' weekend as poor is just obvious baiting.

[Riverside]

What BS is this about Lewis having a bad weekend because he can't pass?  

 

 No one said that... what was said if it was Rosberg he would have taken a beating here in the forum.  

 

  Meanwhile -   beat in Q - poor start -   How would you classify that?  Good performance?   As well .. there's no way to quantify that

Lewis was faster on Sunday .....   

[CountDooku]

 No one said that... what was said if it was Rosberg he would have taken a beating here in the forum.  

 

  Meanwhile -   beat in Q - poor start -   How would you classify that?  Good performance?   As well .. there's no way to quantify that

Lewis was faster on Sunday .....   

 

So you know how other people think on the forum enough to predict how they would post about a hypothetical Rosberg race? Obvious straw man is obvious. All the Ham fans here have been pretty magnanimous in saying Nico beat Lewis and by a decent margin. I even saw "tonkings" mentioned!

 

I never said Lewis had a good performance, just that it wasn't a bad one. I also didn't say Lewis was faster than Nico.

 

[aditya-now]

I just hope this start issue is not going to be recurrent

 

Interesting article on the "start issue" of Lewis here: http://thejudge13.co...thyne-old-self/

 

Also interesting, how ineffective Lewis was against Vettel in Spain, when Nico made minced meat of Vettel and Raikkonen in Bahrain. Hammer time, it seems, is not Lewis' personal possession.

 

In Barcelona we were waiting in vain for some real hammer time from our boy.

Edited by aditya-now, 11 May 2015 - 12:52.

[1Devil1]

Interesting article on the "start issue" of Lewis here: http://thejudge13.co...thyne-old-self/

 

Also interesting, how ineffective Lewis was against Vettel in Spain, when Nico made minced meat of Vettel and Raikkonen in Bahrain. Hammer time, it seems, is not Lewis' personal possession.

 

In Barcelona we were waiting in vain for some real hammer time from our boy.

 

I nearly stopped reading after I saw you linked the judge13 . I am not fan at all of Lewis but you can't put Bahrain and Spain into the same bracket, the overtakes of Rosberg were really good there, but I have my doubt anybody could have done something against Vettel in Spain. Sometimes his abilities are exaggerated, like all the fuss about last year’s overtakes when he was driving the best car by a mile. But he is one of the best in that department in F1 and you can’t blame him for yesterday

[robefc]

I nearly stopped reading after I saw you linked the judge13 . I am not fan at all of Lewis but you can't put Bahrain and Spain into the same bracket, the overtakes of Rosberg were really good there, but I have my doubt anybody could have done something against Vettel in Spain. Sometimes his abilities are exaggerated, like all the fuss about last year’s overtakes when he was driving the best car by a mile. But he is one of the best in that department in F1 and you can’t blame him for yesterday

 

I don't know anything about that guy but his comparison of Nico overtaking Ferraris in Bahrain to Lewis failing to overtake Vettel in Spain is laughable.

[P123]

Interesting article on the "start issue" of Lewis here: http://thejudge13.co...thyne-old-self/

 

Also interesting, how ineffective Lewis was against Vettel in Spain, when Nico made minced meat of Vettel and Raikkonen in Bahrain. Hammer time, it seems, is not Lewis' personal possession.

 

In Barcelona we were waiting in vain for some real hammer time from our boy.

 

That's not really a sensible or valid attempted criticism Aditya.  They are different tracks, different final sectors.  Different lead on to the straight.  Even the respective Rosberg/ Hamilton battles at both tracks in 2014 are enough to highlight that for you.

[Mercedestorque1]

Hammy will be back to kicking a** in Monaco no sweat

[Retrofly]

I nearly stopped reading after I saw you linked the judge13 . I am not fan at all of Lewis but you can't put Bahrain and Spain into the same bracket, the overtakes of Rosberg were really good there, but I have my doubt anybody could have done something against Vettel in Spain. Sometimes his abilities are exaggerated, like all the fuss about last year’s overtakes when he was driving the best car by a mile. But he is one of the best in that department in F1 and you can’t blame him for yesterday

 

i assume if they will come to the same conclusion if Nico can't overtake at Monaco, cause obviously if you can overtake in Bahrain you should be able to overtake in Monaco right?

[robefc]

http://www1.skysport...om-nico-rosberg

 

Lewis pretty honest about his record at Monaco but I am not buying he can't remember much about last year!

[monolulu]

In an interview on Sky website with Craig Slater Lewis was being very honest about his form at Monaco, saying that 5 times he's had a car that could have won there but has only managed it once.

[monolulu]

http://www1.skysport...om-nico-rosberg
 
Lewis pretty honest about his record at Monaco but I am not buying he can't remember much about last year!

Snap!

[Nemo1965]

In an interview on Sky website with Craig Slater Lewis was being very honest about his form at Monaco, saying that 5 times he's had a car that could have won there but has only managed it once.

 

Lewis is a free spirit. While Monaco is a track on which you drive like you are wearing a corset OVER a smoking. Conversely: I sometimes think that the more freedom Nico Rosberg gets, the worse he drives. Situations like in Barcelona, where the wind (head, back, from the side) decided braking points and apexes and in Monaco where the walls decide almost everything, Nico seems so thrive. He can 'construct' the lap in a series of pre-made decisions and then he gets on with it - very, very well.

 

So I am not that surprised Nico managed saturday in Barcelona somewhat better than Lewis. And I would not be surprised if Nico gets pole again in Monaco.

[garoidb]

In an interview on Sky website with Craig Slater Lewis was being very honest about his form at Monaco, saying that 5 times he's had a car that could have won there but has only managed it once.

 

The Monaco GP has been won three times by the team-mate of Lewis Hamilton, so he is not conceding much there that we didn't already know. 

 

Edit: For clarity, he knows the car could have won, because the car did win (three times).

Edited by garoidb, 11 May 2015 - 17:22.

[andrewf1]

In an interview on Sky website with Craig Slater Lewis was being very honest about his form at Monaco, saying that 5 times he's had a car that could have won there but has only managed it once.

 

He hasn't led a lap at Monaco since his win in 2008   Hopefully this year all comes together well.

[P123]

He hasn't led a lap at Monaco since his win in 2008   Hopefully this year all comes together well.

He's never been on pole there; in fact he's had a few lousy qualifying sessions there, some self inflicted others standard Monaco misfortune.

Nico is clear favourite for Monaco, based on his form around there (even though he landed well and truly on his feet with what otherwise would have been a costly quali error in 2014) and the confidence Spain will have given him.

I've said it lots- LH gets way too hyped up about Monaco and is therefore generally his own worst enemy there. He needs a calm approach, and to avoid letting things get the better of him if it doesn't run smoothly. It's just one race out of the 19.

[Newbrray]

To be honest it's difficult looking past a Nico pole for Monaco.

[robefc]

I've got a good feeling about it (from a Lewis point of view), not entirely sure why but there you go!

[TomNokoe]

Bloody naysayers!

Feels a little like 2014 again, where every weekend has a small breadth of significance.

This would be a great place for Hamilton to reassert his lead, but a Nico victory could get to Hamilton ever so slightly.

[1Devil1]

Could be a crucial place to lose some valuable points, if a Ferrari becomes second in qualifying, so more than seven points to lose here. Nico is favorite for pole, but Lewis wasn't bad in Monaco either in the past. like for Vettel or Alonso it doesn't seem to be his best track 

[f1supreme]

I just hope this start issue is not going to be recurrent

they used the 2014 clutch.well nico did,im not sure about lewis.but that was the worst start lewis has had in a while.so maybe he had the 2014 clutch too.

Edited by f1supreme, 11 May 2015 - 19:13.

[robefc]

Could be a crucial place to lose some valuable points, if a Ferrari becomes second in qualifying, so more than seven points to lose here. Nico is favorite for pole, but Lewis wasn't bad in Monaco either in the past. like for Vettel or Alonso it doesn't seem to be his best track 

 

Based on S3 in Spain a Ferrari challenge in quali seems unlikely barring red flags or other mishaps

[robefc]

they used the 2014 clutch.well nico did,im not sure about lewis.but that was the worst start,lewis has had in a while.so maybe he had the 2014 clutch too.

 

I think they went back to the 2014 clutches for both, can someone who has a bit more knowledge about the whole clutch situation chime in? I believe they discovered some issue with the new clutches which is why they went back?

[1Devil1]

I think they went back to the 2014 clutches for both, can someone who has a bit more knowledge about the whole clutch situation chime in? I believe they discovered some issue with the new clutches which is why they went back?

 

It was said by ROSBERG they went back to old configuration, because the new one wasn't consistent enough. This implies for my there was mechanical problem with the new one. Other users understand it the way that new one wasn't consistent enough for Rosberg. Both drivers used the old configuration according to AMuS. Still some open questions in that department 

Edited by 1Devil1, 11 May 2015 - 19:15.

[HeadFirst]

I'm not ready to concede the Monaco pole to Rosberg, due to a stellar Q3 performance in Spain. For me Lewis is still the faster Mercedes driver, though not by much.

[andrewf1]

It was said by ROSBERG they went back to old configuration, because the new one wasn't consistent enough. This implies for my there was mechanical problem with the new one. Other users understand it the way that new one wasn't consistent enough for Rosberg. Both drivers used the old configuration according to AMuS. Still some open questions in that department 

 

A mechanical problem would have presented itself to both drivers, not just Nico.

[robefc]

It was said by ROSBERG they went back to old configuration, because the new one wasn't consistent enough. This implies for my there was mechanical problem with the new one. Other users understand it the way that new one wasn't consistent enough for Rosberg. Both drivers used the old configuration according to AMuS. Still some open questions in that department 

 

Thanks

[1Devil1]

A mechanical problem would have presented itself to both drivers, not just Nico.

 

Would it? That's to black and white, you can have non consistent system that works for four starts in Lewis case just to fail in the next. I don't think you can give a mechanical judgment of starts you see on TV, to actual telemetry the team is working with 

[RubalSher]

Lewis is a free spirit. While Monaco is a track on which you drive like you are wearing a corset OVER a smoking. Conversely: I sometimes think that the more freedom Nico Rosberg gets, the worse he drives. Situations like in Barcelona, where the wind (head, back, from the side) decided braking points and apexes and in Monaco where the walls decide almost everything, Nico seems so thrive. He can 'construct' the lap in a series of pre-made decisions and then he gets on with it - very, very well.

 

So I am not that surprised Nico managed saturday in Barcelona somewhat better than Lewis. And I would not be surprised if Nico gets pole again in Monaco.

 

I actually was thinking on similar lines but then I could not explain Hungary. I will still wait for Monaco qualy before I write Lewis off. He has been half a second quicker in Q3 on 3 out of 5 races, behind in one and .1 quicker in the fifth. Barcelona may have just been an exception, we will get more answers in Monaco.

[Nemo1965]

I actually was thinking on similar lines but then I could not explain Hungary. I will still wait for Monaco qualy before I write Lewis off. He has been half a second quicker in Q3 on 3 out of 5 races, behind in one and .1 quicker in the fifth. Barcelona may have just been an exception, we will get more answers in Monaco.

 

Write off? Write off for Monaco? I hope nobody took THAT from my post!

[RubalSher]

Write off? Write off for Monaco? I hope nobody took THAT from my post!

 

We took that from your thoughts

[Disgrace]

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