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#1 Risil

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 00:54

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Verizon Indycar Series – Round 1 of 16 in St Petersburg, Florida

Let's do it! It's 2015! The fastest show on four wheels, the stars and cars, the non-electric Formula E – after an offseason lasting for 7 months, 2 dropped races and one million aerofoils, Indycar is less than a week from fruition. Blankets, tents and illegally-connected cable television are available to those of you fleeing Eff One's tsunami of engine tokens and declining TV figures in countries you've never visited. Team owners are only sued by other team owners here. When a team arrives with the sole object of picking up some start money, they actually run a few laps. Every last irresponsible driving yahoo is above the legal drinking age.

 

Why are we here? Or why weren't we here three weeks ago? A race in Dubai was dropped before anyone had even worked out what opinion to hold about it. Another one, this time outside Brasilia, lasted slightly longer before it became subject to that grand old tradition of being cancelled by politicians temporarily discovering their social consciences.

 

All this has left our season-opener back at the traditional-for-six-years-now venue of St Petersburg in Florida. Or putting it more positively, we're opening the season at St Petersburg in Florida. St Pete is the first of three early-season races in the Southern states, which are raceable all year round but For Reasons We Won't Discuss only take place after the kind of winter break more appropriate for the Paris of the Baltic. The other two will be at Barber Motorsports Park in Alabama, which we know about, and Satchmo Raceway Park near New Orleans, which we don't.

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I like this map best 'cause it mentions the friggin' yachts.

 

Who are you and why aren't you saying when the racing is on

Here's your schedule. It's a busy one. Note how I'm doing these in Florida time, which by Sunday ought to be back to five hours difference to UK time again. Also note that the broadcast is being done by the lovable folks at ABC, so you can have lots of fun picturing Scott Goodyear nodding silently as Eddie Cheever tells us how he won the Le Mans 24 Hours, and possibly the Monaco Grand Prix and the Nixon-Kennedy TV debates.

 

Friday, March 27

12.30-13.45: Indycar first practice
16.15-17.30: Indycar second practice

17.45-18.15: Pirelli World Challenge GT qualifying

 

Saturday, March 28

09.30-10.00: Indy Lights new car qualifying

10.15-10.55: USF2000 race 1

11.10-12.10: Pirelli World Challenge GT race 1

12.30-13.15: Indycar third practice

13.30-14.10: Pro Mazda race 1

14.15: Indycar autographs session. You want their autographs. Don't bother with Indy Lights race 1, which is on at the same time. The squeak of sharpie on glossy paper. That's why you came.

15.15: NO MORE AUTOGRAPHS FOR YOU.

15.30-16.00: Stadium Super Trucks (enjoy it while it's not the only kind of racing left and instead of racing they drive through flaming buses filled with political prisoners)

16.15-17.30: Indycar qualifying

 

Sunday, March 29

08.55-09.35: USF2000 race 2 (the stars of tomorrow take on, and sometimes are, the children of the hedge fund managers of today)

09.50-10.30: Pro Mazda race 2 (what's the difference between Pro Mazda and USF2000?)

10.45-11.45: Pirelli World Challenge GT race 2

12.00-12.30: Indycar warm-up

12.45-13.55: Indy Lights race 2

14.10-14.35: Stadium Super Trucks! I hope you like stadiums!

15.30: Indycar race! Then you can leave.

 

So what's new?
Trick question! Nothing is new. However a few things we haven't seen for a while have squeezed their way into Indycar like toothpaste back in a tube. First of all, Lord of Misrule Brian Barnhart is returning to the chief steward's box to wield his fist of ham. This news caused a bit of intake-of-breath among people with four-year memories, as Barnhart is justly famous for ruling Indycar a bit like one of those bad kings who sets the horse guards on his own supporters and then charges his chief minister with high treason. No fear though, the graven idol System has been set up and will prevent anything from going wrong.

 

Speaking of things that won't go wrong, 2015 has also witnessed a torrent of aerotica sweeping away those smooth, bulbous sidepods and rear wings flat enough to eat your dinner off. Winglets, flip-ups and weird sticky-uppy things on the front wing are in. Ground effects are a little bit out. Dirty air? Ain't no dirty air that's going to stop Graham Rahal rear-ending someone on a restart.

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The calendar? We're doing a new race near New Orleans, there's only one double-header (in Detroit, the fun one), Fontana's in June and Pocono's gone to August. Season finale's in Sonoma where double points will be awarded. I've put this in the middle of the post in the hope that the F1-is-shit arrivistes won't see it.

 

Better hope it stays that way. Who's driving this year?

I know the answer to this one! Wikipedia has this handy table. Since open-wheel racing has been on the wane since 1973, or 1998, or 1968, or even 1932 depending on when you prefer to date the beginning of America's national decline from, this won't take long. 24 drivers will be on the grid at St Pete, of whom probably 20 could expect to be in contention for victory, given the right freak events. Indycar's most entertaining paradox is that the guy you'd expect to win in the absence of freak events, Will Power, is a walking Infinite Improbability Drive of freak events. But enough digression. Here we go!

 

Superteams

Preserve of the million dollar salaries, underground test tracks and chances of winning a damn thing. Population: 3, handily subdivided into 4 drivers each. Superteam Penske is running two old CART stagers, Helio Castroneves and Juan Montoya. Castroneves will probably finish between fifth and third, and last year Juan Montoya won what was the most boring Indycar race I've ever seen. They join Will Power and Simon Pagenaud, who, ignoring Scott Dixon for a second, are the best drivers in the series. They count as the team's hungry young chargers, in the style of those Indy 500 broadcasts from the early '70s where drivers between the ages of 30 and 35 are described as up-and-comers and young guns and 18-21 year olds are not voting and fighting in Vietnam.

 

Superteam Chip Ganassi are running last year's trio of Scott Dixon, Tony Kanaan and Charlie Kimball. We'll probably have to wait till the summer again before the planets align and the cars start going quickly. Kimball is fast at random so on that logic he's probably the best bet of the three for St Pete. Youth Project Sage Karam is driving on a race-by-race basis like he's some kind of Ayrton Senna, but in testing he's been channelling Fernando Alonso and driving into concrete walls. Who knows how he'll do? Not me.

 

Like old broadcasts of Just a Minute, Superteam Andretti are relying on 3 regulars and a revolving extra who usually turns out to be better than the permanent seats. Well, not so much Ryan Hunter-Reay. He's the Kenneth Williams of this outfit. Marco Andretti and Carlos Munoz are the wallflowers, and former Sauber lucky charm Simona de Silvestro is joining them in some Karam-like pay-as-you-go deal. Unlike Team Chip and Pen, Andretti running Honda engines and aero, which according to testing is infinitesimally slower than the Chevy package. Good luck trying to tell the difference after Takuma Sato's driven into the side of you.

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The Middle

Those are Indycar's haughty swans. What about the geese of the Indycar world? The scrappy, hissy ones nonetheless capable of swatting away ducks with a single flap of the wing. Probably most interesting is Schmidt Peterson, who have responded to the loss of their stubbly Frenchman with a full-bearded Canadian. James Hinchcliffe seems to be settling into his role as the new Patrick Carpentier (or possibly a calm Alex Tagliani), and in the other seat James Jakes has bought himself into contention. But how many racing drivers can you name from Leeds? Actually Jack Hawksworth's from Bradford but don't tell anyone.

 

Speaking of Jack the Lad, AJ Foyt has hired him to race alongside Takuma Sato, who has outlasted Mikhail Aleshin and therefore recovers his role as Indycar's eternal dunce cap. Initials fans will get even more enjoyment from CFH Racing, which used to be the absurdly successful little Ed Carpenter outfit plus Sarah Fisher Hartman Racing, who sort of remind me of the old Bettenhausen team. Josef Newgarden's back again, and Ed has outsourced the distasteful road course bits to 2007's Luca Filippi.

 

KV Racing is engaging in its annual preseason orgy of promises with conviction not heard of since Rubens Barrichello's 2012. Seb Bourdais, fresh from winning his namesake the Sebring 12 Hours, has swapped bouffant Sebastian Saavedra for normcore Stefano Coletti. Forget for a moment that he feels like Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge to Jean-Eric Vergne's Bonestorm; he's been quick in testing, plays poker or at least poses with poker chips, and was better than you/I remember in GP2. Was he really born in Monaco? I don't know.

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The rest?

Lovable Frank Grimes-alike Bryan Herta is turning up this year with Gabby Chaves, who in 2014 won several Indy Lights. Graham Rahal is returning with his dad's team, now backed by the wonderful Steak-n-Shake restaurant brand and the gentleman's publication Maxim magazine, which will won't liven things up a bit. They're facing off against another midsize Americobrasserie chain in the Sonny's BBQ Pit powered Coyne team. In a break from the usual, Dale Coyne has brought together an embittered, down-on-his-luck detective and a rookie from another city as they try to work out who killed Justin Wilson's career.

 

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Jp says y'all can sign up for the Atlas Autosport Indycar fantasy league right here. You have to have a United States address to play, but I suggest you get started with the fantasy right now and pick a place in America you'd always have liked to live in. Remember: it's Driven By Firestone.


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#2 jonpollak

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 00:59

Omg

#3 midgrid

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 01:08

We can end the season right now, as it won't get any better than this OP!



#4 Afterburner

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 01:56

This is the moment I've been waiting for since last August (well, there were some other moments I've been waiting for, but that's been going on a lot longer than last August and I can't mark those on a calendar).

 

Indycar. Is. BACK.

 

The series for which Charles Dickens wrote the opening lines to A Tale of Two Cities. The series whose former race director wore mismatched rainbow socks. The series which can't make up its mind about who is actually its title sponsor (evidently, they can't remember if they want us wearing polos or using smartphones--maybe it's both). The series that is the world's Island of Misfit Pro Drivers.

 

Indycar!

 

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I figure I'll chime in with Useless Indycar 2015 Fact #1: Beaux Barfield actually has a Twitter feed. Brian Barhart does not. Boo, Brian Barnhart. Boo.

 

In the end, I really don't care, though, because INDYCAR! :clap:



#5 Prost1997T

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 03:07

I see the self-deprecating humour is still in for these threads :p

I'll vote for Sage Karam as the highest-finishing rookie.

#6 Peat

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 08:11

Oh Risil, how I have missed thee. 

6 months of waiting and................. a cancelled race.

Onto St.Pete and...................... I'll be away on holibobs. That BT Sport package is really paying for itself this year! Thank goodness I like Premiership Football. Oh yeah, i don't. 

Anyway, I'll try and avoid the result so I can watch it 'as live' when i return on Tuesday, which shouldn't be all that difficult considering IndyCar exists in a vacuum. 

 

All that's left for me to say is, enjoy, savour, berate. It'll be August again before you know it. 



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 08:15

Oh Risil, how I have missed thee. 

6 months of waiting and................. a cancelled race.
Onto St.Pete and...................... I'll be away on holibobs.


http://www.espnplayer.com

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#8 teejay

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 08:19

Fox is actually showing these live in Australia!

 

The return of the 1990's king of open wheels is real!

 

I don't know what I am yelling about!

 

Indycar!



#9 Victor_RO

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 08:22

Yay Indycar is back! Feels like an eternity since the last race... oh wait, it was.  :lol:

 

Obligatory PAGENAUD FTW now that he's with the Penske monsterteam.  :up:



#10 Peat

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 08:23

 

The gesture is appreciated, Prost. But as i am travelling with a bicycle, Easyjet have deemed that I am barely allowed to pack any clothes, let alone a computer. 



#11 stewie

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 08:36

THANK. GOD. INDYCARS. IS. BACK.

#12 jonpollak

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 09:00

C'mon you ne'er do wells

SIGN -UP for the Atlas Autosport league NOW

 

Just register and go to the league page and click Join Atlas Autosport

It's Free*

 

(if you are outside the USA just select California in the State field and 90210 in the zip code field)

 

You Can't Lose ®

 

* plus 732%compounded APR with a 529%signing up fee. First born child will suffice as collateral.

 

Jp


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#13 August

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 12:07

For those thinking RC's Bets & Games are all about F1, there will be an IndyCar game this year.

 

Round 0: Championship

Round 1: St. Petersburg



#14 king_crud

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 12:57

I like Indianacars with the racing

#15 jonpollak

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 12:59

Damn these break away series....

 

For those thinking RC's Bets & Games are all about F1, there will be an IndyCar game this year.

 

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Round 0: Championship

Round 1: St. Petersburg

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Jp



#16 ToxicEnviroment

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 13:04

I am so excited about this new IndyCar season.

Such a healthy racing. Interesting tracks, cars, drivers.

Beautiful.

Such a refreshment from that other serie dominated by one team and run on boring tracks

#17 billm99uk

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 13:35

You got something against the WTCC? :p



#18 JHSingo

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 13:37

It's been a while, folks.

 

Unfortunately, for me, it'll be even longer wait. Like Peat, I too will be going somewhere this weekend that has no internet/TV coverage of IndyCar. And no, it isn't a cave.

 

I'll simply have to resort to finding a newsagents on Thursday and reading about it in Autosport, like we had to do in the good old days when there were V10s, refuelling, Michael Schumacher and...wait, no that's the wrong series.

 

Enjoy it, everyone. As I've said before, I'm really looking forward to IndyCar this year. Certainly it promises to be far less predictable than Bernie's circus.



#19 Disgrace

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 13:37

I am so excited about this new IndyCar season.

Such a healthy racing. Interesting tracks, cars, drivers.

Beautiful.

Such a refreshment from that other serie dominated by one team and run on boring tracks

 

If you ignore the fact that Penske drivers finished first, second and fourth in last year's championship...



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 14:11

If you ignore the fact that Penske drivers finished first, second and fourth in last year's championship...

 

... and their 2015 drivers finished first, second, fourth and fifth.



#21 DampMongoose

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 14:18

Seeing as I've not watched an F1 race live since about the middle of last year, I'd be interested in watching this on tv... BUT do I have that option in the UK?

 

Oh and Jp, the Atlas League only require 1 child as collateral? That's way better than the rates offered on the Jeremy Kyle Loan Sharks advertising on Motors TV. 



#22 Proto402

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 14:20

FINALLY...THE ROCK HAS COME BACK TO.....wait....wrong promo.

 

Oh, here we go,   FINALLY...

 

INDYCAR IS BACK  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:

 

And as always, another masterpiece introduction by Risil.  Now to wait for Sunday to unleash the non electric horses!



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 14:21

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#24 jonpollak

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 14:46

Seeing as I've not watched an F1 race live since about the middle of last year, I'd be interested in watching this on tv... BUT do I have that option in the UK?

 

Oh and Jp, the Atlas League only require 1 child as collateral? That's way better than the rates offered on the Jeremy Kyle Loan Sharks advertising on Motors TV. 

 

SUNDAY at 8pm BST on ESPN (ch 417 on RupeeVision)

and for YOU DM, a special dispensation has been made to join...No children required (1379%APR with 822% signing fee)

 

Jp



#25 paulb

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 14:48

I love the enthusiasm here!

 

Where is the over/under on front wing debris cautions?



#26 Ben1445

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 15:14

These opening posts are one of the highlights of my life  :lol:



#27 jonpollak

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Momma's little babies love Indy Indy, Momma's little babies love IndyCar

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 15:55

I love the enthusiasm here!

 

Where is the over/under on front wing debris cautions?

 

 

IndyCar and NASCAR threads - it's just a nicer and smarter place than F1 threads



#29 paulb

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 15:58

IndyCar and NASCAR threads - it's just a nicer and smarter place than F1 threads.

Funny and clever are also in that list.



#30 Andrew Hope

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 16:40

OH LAWDY I JUST CAN'T WAIT

 

As to the poll for which rookie finishes highest, it seems dumb to think a Colombian named Gabriel doesn't have the best stuff in the paddock.


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#31 Jim Thurman

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 16:45

IndyCar and NASCAR threads - it's just a nicer and smarter place than F1 threads

 

Funny and clever are also in that list.

 

I figured it out a while back. Indycar and NASCAR are rock & roll and country music. The fans applaud and cheer, enjoy themselves and can have a good laugh. F1 is opera or classical. Any interruption from watching the masters at work is met with a glare and a shush! and at moments both appropriate and inappropriate they stand, gently clapping while muttering "Bravissimo, bravissimo (Michael, Seb, Fernando, Lewis, Ayrton, Nigel, Ottorino)" with tears streaming down their faces.


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#32 Jim Thurman

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 16:55

An OP with Frank Grimes AND Lee Carvallo references?! :up:



#33 Option1

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:24

Funny and clever are also in that list.

Not to mention better looking and chicks just plain dig us.

 

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:28

SUNDAY at 8pm BST on ESPN (ch 417 on RupeeVision)

 

Jp

 

Ah, so I can't watch it on TV without paying.  It's £12 per month through a sky box. 

 

I guess I'll twiddle my thumbs or watch whatever Potato Resolution offering is on MotorsTV. 

 

 


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Ah, so I can't watch it on TV without paying.  It's £12 per month through a sky box. 

 

I guess I'll twiddle my thumbs or watch whatever Potato Resolution offering is on MotorsTV. 

 

 

 

BT are usually quite open to haggling - don't just sign up through your Sky box or the BT website. However, I also understand that there are things called streams ...



#36 DampMongoose

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:13

BT are usually quite open to haggling - don't just sign up through your Sky box or the BT website. However, I also understand that there are things called streams ...

 

Thanks, I may consider having a word with them . Although I might head to Donington if the weathers good or maybe Mallory for the MG's.



#37 Radoye

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:17

Why Not Sato???

 

:p


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"DRACONE!"

 

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"DraGone??"

 

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#39 Sheepmachine

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:39

Superb OP as always Risil :up:

It's been a long 7 months but it's nearly here!

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YES!! :D

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 19:07

First of all, Lord of Misrule Brian Barnhart is returning to the chief steward's box to wield his fist of ham.

 

The Queen of Indycar had this to say:

 

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(Excellent OP)



#41 king_crud

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 19:36

Not to mention better looking and chicks just plain dig us.

 

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INDYCAR, INDYCAR, INDYCAR

WE'VE GOT BIG COCKS (I'm implying penis size, not rooster size)



#42 Spillage

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 19:42

Top OP, as ever. If it wasn't for these OPs, I'd never have got in to the series, so thanks :D

Will UK residents still be able to watch live on BT sport?

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 19:57

Will UK residents still be able to watch live on BT sport?

 

Yes indeedy sir, on ESPN!



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 20:00

I must admit the OP has attracted my attention for the series also. The lack of free to air coverage in the uk is a bit of a nutsack though.

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 20:06

I must admit the OP has attracted my attention for the series also. The lack of free to air coverage in the uk is a bit of a nutsack though.

There is always JP's Nigerian streaming club.

 

You didn't hear this from me.



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 20:08

IndyCar and NASCAR threads - it's just a nicer and smarter place than F1 threads

lack of fanatical fanboyism is such a breathe of fresh air  :cool:



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 20:54

I haven't been following the off-season as closely as I would like - what's the word on the street track about the relative performances of the new aero packages?



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I haven't been following the off-season as closely as I would like - what's the word on the street track about the relative performances of the new aero packages?

 

Balance of Performance.

 

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 21:56

I haven't been following the off-season as closely as I would like - what's the word on the street track about the relative performances of the new aero packages?

 

Marshall Pruett has a very interesting article on Racer.com. Chevy have probably had the edge in testing, but that makes sense when you think about who they've got, and who Honda have got.

 

Something I hadn't considered was that apparently the aerokit doesn't have a fixed spec -- the teams are given all the different pieces and options and get to choose which ones to put on. Could be interesting to see who gets their aero right early on, especially when you think of the traditional setup trouble caused by the new Firestones.



#50 jonpollak

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 22:29

There is always JP's Nigerian streaming club.

 

You didn't hear this from me.

 

We launch our revolutionary new " Oily Boid "on Friday Morning.

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Stay tuned to this very thread for coverage.

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