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SF15-T - Ferrari's 2015 F1 Challenger. Part II


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#3851 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:48

I don't think anyone genuinely believes that they'll be fighting Merc do they?

 

I expect they'll be 2-3 tenths on average behind. 



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#3852 Marklar

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:24

Tbh I expect more or less the same gap, maybe down to 0.4 s. The new tyre rule could help Ferrari due to Mercedes' tendency to panic and because of Mercedes' driver equalization policy. If the gap is really down to 0.2-0.3 then it is game on in that sense.

#3853 JdB

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 13:01

 

Ferrari delayed work on its 2016 #F1 car to focus on maximising 2015 SF15-T beta.autosport.com/news/report.ph

 

At face value this seems a slightly odd decision. No particular mention of carry-over 2015/16 parts either #F1

 

 

So I guess this thread will be used for two seasons then? :p

 

All joking aside, i wasn't expecting them to be much quicker then Mercedes, but now i'm afraid the gap will increase ....

Let's hope i'm wrong!



#3854 Ferrari2183

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 13:09

They're just resetting expectations. Nothing more, nothing less...



#3855 Exb

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 14:10

They're just resetting expectations. Nothing more, nothing less...

Not really - did you read the article?
A few extracts...

Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne is confident the delay will not have an impact on it providing a stern challenge to world champion team Mercedes next term....
"So I'm confident we will give Mercedes a run for their money.
"We approached the 16 car with a very clear idea and very clear interpretation.
"It is incredibly unlikely that the car will not offer Mercedes a proper challenge."



#3856 Jonnycraig37

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 16:17

Tbh I expect more or less the same gap, maybe down to 0.4 s. The new tyre rule could help Ferrari due to Mercedes' tendency to panic and because of Mercedes' driver equalization policy. If the gap is really down to 0.2-0.3 then it is game on in that sense.


That would still see them finish a pitstop behind at every race, all things being equal..

#3857 as65p

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 17:03

They're just resetting expectations. Nothing more, nothing less...

 

Trying the same trick as last year, just to a lesser degree.

 

Also I guess there must be something lost in translation. Declaring a delay and then claiming "no excuses this year" is a quite obvious contradiction.



#3858 RedOne

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 19:34

Ferrari have affectively said they will have a championship challenging car in 2016. Reading Marchionne's words it's almost like he was ready to say they have jumped Mercedes completely. Ferrari feel strongly they are at least a match before testing has even began. I'm slightly surprised by their level of confidence but we must take there word for it. Going to be interesting..

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#3859 Niceman

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 20:16

If Ferrari know why they are slower than Mercedes and how to improve their car to overhaul the difference then huge respect to the technical leads.



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#3860 YoungGun

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 21:02

Trying the same trick as last year, just to a lesser degree.

 

Also I guess there must be something lost in translation. Declaring a delay and then claiming "no excuses this year" is a quite obvious contradiction.

 

Wow, did you actually read and understand the article?



#3861 Vettelari

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 03:05

If the gap is down to 0.2 seconds Vettel has a REALLY legitimate chance at the WDC. The WCC would still be out of reach, in my opinion. With a gap that small the championship would be decided by the misfortune of Vettel & Hamilton. It'd be a SPECTACULAR season to watch play out. Vettel could benefit from Nico & Lewis taking points away from each other while he continues to decimate Kimi at every GP. I REALLY hope that estimate is correct.

#3862 as65p

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 10:28

Wow, did you actually read and understand the article?

 

Wanna bet how often, in case MGP dominates again in 2016, this "delay" Marchionne mentions a bit casually will be used as the excuse reason?



#3863 Marklar

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 10:39

Wanna bet how often, in case MGP dominates again in 2016, this "delay" Marchionne mentions a bit casually will be used as the excuse reason?

I would even bet that Marchionne himself would use that as a 'reason' to put the blame on Arrivabene if Mercedes' dominance continues.

#3864 as65p

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 10:45

I would even bet that Marchionne himself would use that as a 'reason' to put the blame on Arrivabene if Mercedes' dominance continues.

 

Quite possible. He already did some verbal preparations in that direction.

 

"Hopefully he [Arrivabene] will not bitch about this. ...

... we have had adequate time and adequate financial resources to do the right thing given the rules."



#3865 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 11:51

Mods, can we close this thread in favour of http://forums.autosp...ferrari-sf16-t/ please?



#3866 YoungGun

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:03

Wanna bet how often, in case MGP dominates again in 2016, this "delay" Marchionne mentions a bit casually will be used as the excuse reason?

 

Well then you should have taken away that the delay is no excuse ("no bitching") as they in Ferrari had more time were better funded in preparing this year's challenger than the previous one. Perhaps Marchionne's Italian-Canadian Legal jargon makes you to interpret otherwise? :rolleyes:



#3867 Mandzipop

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 16:19

As the conversation has now turned to the 2016 challenger then it is time to close this thread and head off to the new thread. http://forums.autosp...ferrari-sf16-t/

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