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[D28]

 

 

Al Pease's Eagle Climax in the 1969 Canadian Grand Prix - shortly before he became the only driver ever to be black flagged from a Championship GP for driving too slowly.

This is what I posted a year ago on the passing of Al Pease:

 

"As for his unfortunate footnote in F1 history, if should be noted that he qualified the same Eagle-Climax 4 in mid field for the 1967 Canadian GP. He qualified but dns the 68 race due to engine problems, so by 1969 the old Eagle was surely tired and out classed"

 

Pease's actual qualifying time was faster than Lovely, Moser and Cordts and was within the 90% guideline of Ickx's pole. So it was in the race that he lacked pace. I know this is often quoted but have trouble believing it never happened anywhere else over 64 years. A sad note to have brought up in one's obit.

[ensign14]

Pease was so many laps behind because he spent many laps in the pits.  It wasn't because he was Stuppacher slow.

 

Not F1, but a bit further back.  Mathis' first entry into GP racing was with a white car, because it was a German manufacturer.  Its second was with a blue car, because it was a French manufacturer.  And Mathis hadn't moved.

[Rob G]

 

Not F1, but a bit further back.  Mathis' first entry into GP racing was with a white car, because it was a German manufacturer.  Its second was with a blue car, because it was a French manufacturer.  And Mathis hadn't moved.

Bugatti's first foray into Grand Prix racing, in the 1911 Grand Prix de France with its little Type 13, was also as a German entry and was painted white.

[NoSanityClause]

There were three Cuban GPs (1957/58/60) which, albeit not officially part of F1, still attracted most of the top drivers and teams. The 1958 GP is best remembered as the one in which Fangio was kidnapped by revolutionary guerillas.

 

Apparently, the rebels wanted to kidnap both Fangio and his teammate, Moss. Fangio was taken by gunpoint in the lobby of the Lincoln Hotel. He convinced the rebels not to take Moss as well, though, telling them that Stirling was on his honeymoon.

 

Of course, that was a lie. The friendship and mutual admiration between these two drivers is one of the most beautiful stories in F1.

Edited by NoSanityClause, 30 April 2015 - 02:12.

[JimmyClark]

This might be a fun thread to resurrect... here's a question to kick things off: 

 

 

These seven cities below have a link to seven F1 drivers, who make up a an exclusive group. Which driver is missing? 

 

Hamburg (Germany), Jakar (Bhutan), Phoenix (USA), Praia (Cape Verde), Rosario (Argentina), Veracruz (Mexico), Waterloo (Canada). 

[Huberg]

Regarding Tyrrell innovations mentioned by Boing 2, I think that McLaren ran front tyres on all 4 wheels on one or more races in 1983. Monza would make sense.

Edited by Huberg, 06 May 2025 - 16:26.

[BRG]

This might be a fun thread to resurrect... here's a question to kick things off: 

 

 

These seven cities below have a link to seven F1 drivers, who make up a an exclusive group. Which driver is missing? 

 

Hamburg (Germany), Jakar (Bhutan), Phoenix (USA), Praia (Cape Verde), Rosario (Argentina), Veracruz (Mexico), Waterloo (Canada). 

I know that Carlos Reutemann died in Rosario, Argentina but that doesn't take me very far!

[keeppari]

This might be a fun thread to resurrect... here's a question to kick things off:


These seven cities below have a link to seven F1 drivers, who make up a an exclusive group. Which driver is missing?

Hamburg (Germany), Jakar (Bhutan), Phoenix (USA), Praia (Cape Verde), Rosario (Argentina), Veracruz (Mexico), Waterloo (Canada).

I am guessing Vettel is missing if that Waterloo should be the one in Iowa instead of the 51st state.

Edited by keeppari, 06 May 2025 - 16:51.

[JimmyClark]

I am guessing MSC is missing if that Waterloo should be the one in Iowa instead of the 51st state.

 

Ah whoops my bad - yes that should be Waterloo (USA) 

 

On that basis you're right, though I did include MSC (Phoenix) - Seb Vettel is the only 21st century F1 champion who doesn't have an airport code that matches his 3-letter tag in F1. 

 

I was flying from Stuttgart yesterday and realised my tag said STR, which sent me down that rabbit hole. 

Edited by JimmyClark, 06 May 2025 - 16:53.

[keeppari]

Ah whoops my bad - yes that should be Waterloo (USA)

On that basis you're right, though I did include MSC (Phoenix) - Seb Vettel is the only 21st century F1 champion who doesn't have an airport code that matches his 3-letter tag in F1.

I was flying from Stuttgart yesterday and realised my tag said STR, which sent me down that rabbit hole.

Yeah, had a short brainfade there with MSC as my initial guess was that PHX could have something to do with Phil Hill. Only then decided to to check all of the champs that actually had a 3-letter tag.

[Bleu]

A question from me:
 

a) Which driver has the worst percentage of getting through Q1 while doing it at least once? (so everyone with 0% does not qualify)

b) Which driver has the worst percentage of getting through Q2 while doing it at least once? (counting the percentage only from times driver was in Q2)

[F1Frog]

A question from me:

a) Which driver has the worst percentage of getting through Q1 while doing it at least once? (so everyone with 0% does not qualify)
b) Which driver has the worst percentage of getting through Q2 while doing it at least once? (counting the percentage only from times driver was in Q2)

Latifi for part A? Next choice would be Ericsson.

B is much harder, maybe Giovinazzi?

[F1Frog]

I just thought of some possibly better answers. Max Chilton for A and Sebastien Buemi for B.

[Bleu]

Chilton is 2nd with 2 out of 35.

Buemi is 8th with 7 out of 43.

[nivoglibina]

Stroll for B?

[F1Frog]

Did Lucas di Grassi ever sneak into Q2?

 

EDIT: I don't think he did. I think the answer is Jerome D'Ambrosio thanks to his one appearance for Lotus at Monza 2012.

Edited by F1Frog, 11 May 2025 - 15:36.

[Bleu]

Did Lucas di Grassi ever sneak into Q2?

 

EDIT: I don't think he did. I think the answer is Jerome D'Ambrosio thanks to his one appearance for Lotus at Monza 2012.

 

D'Ambrosio is correct, he failed to get into Q2 in all 19 races in 2011, then made it with Lotus while subbing for Grosjean.

 

Stroll has a decent 40/98 in Q2 so he's not close to the answer.

[nivoglibina]

Stroll made it to Q3 40 times in his career?  Wow my memory is really bad then  hehe

[F1Frog]

It's got to be drivers with not that many race starts, maybe just one or two Q3 appearances total.

 

 

Jean-Eric Vergne?

[Bleu]

Vergne was 12/45 and not in top ten.

[BRG]

Stroll made it to Q3 40 times in his career?  Wow my memory is really bad then  hehe

His average grid position is 13.68 and to get that far up the grid, he must have made quite a few Q3 appearances, but I am not going to add them all up!

[F1Frog]

I'm surprised Vergne made it to Q3 that many times!

 

How about Esteban Gutierrez?

[Bleu]

Gutierrez is third with 5/38.

[F1Frog]

This is a good game. What about Felipe Nasr?

[Bleu]

Nasr 2/13, equal 6th place.

[LegendInTheMaking]

My assumption would be Nicolas Latifi, who started in top 10 three times, but twice because grid penalties of others. On one of these occasions, Italy '22, he didn't even make it out of Q1. However, going through all his qualifying sessions is a bit too much of a burden as grid positions in his years aren't necessary a reflection of the qualifying results due to penalties and sprint races determining the race grids.

 

Also noteworthy: Takuma Sato is 1/4 for reaching Q3 as only his Super Aguri years were during this qualifying format. Guido van der Garde is 1/19 for reaching Q2, so is probably second in that list. 

[Bleu]

Latifi made it to Q2 six times, and once into Q3 so he's not the answer.

 

van der Garde made Q2 twice in his only season. 

 

 

I can give a hint that the second driver I'm searching got into Q3 three times out of 34 times he was in Q2.

[F1Frog]

Zhou?

[BRG]

Zhou?

3 Q3s from 68 starts (so far)

[P0inters]

Vandoorne?