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Poll: Which races are you going to pretend to watch this weekend? (62 member(s) have cast votes)

Go on, you can tell me

  1. Indycars @ Toronto (49 votes [37.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.12%

  2. Fuel savers @ Le Mans (37 votes [28.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.03%

  3. Terrifying motorbikes @ the Isle of Man (13 votes [9.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.85%

  4. Sensible motorbikes @ Barcelona (13 votes [9.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.85%

  5. NASCAR @ Michigan (start a thread, ya shmoes) (8 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  6. Rallying? Ha! (4 votes [3.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.03%

  7. Formula Renault 3.5, because otherwise Prost1997T will outknowledge me again and again. Humiliating! (8 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

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#1 Risil

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 21:35

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Indycar Racing Round 10 of 16: Toronto Presents the Indycar World Series Powered by Canada

You're not really paying attention. Closely following a week of TT racing at the Isle of Man, 24 hours of hybrids breaking down at Le Mans, and bike racing in Barcelona for however many MotoGP classes are worth following these days, we've got this ungodly hangover of a racing event in the bowling alley that is downtown-ish Toronto. Yes, it's time for Indycar to make an exhibition of itself at Exhibition Place.

 

In case you really want to watch it though

Here's the weekend schedule. From the internet!

 

Friday 12 June
10.45: Indycar practice 1
14.45: Indycar practice 2
15.45: Racing already! It's the Canadian Touring Car Series. Canada has a touring car series.

 

Saturday 13 June
9.45: Nelson Piquet Lights qualifying
10.40: Indycar practice 3
12.40: USF2000 race 1
13.35: Pro Mazda race 1
14.30: Indycar qualifying
16.00: Robby Gordon Presents Stadium Super Tracks Powered by Shitty Ramps Made of Plyboard
16.45: Piquet Lights race 1
17.50: Canadian Touring Cars again. Imagine how important this news would be if you owned a car dealership in Toronto.

 

Sunday 14 June
9.00: USF2000 again
10.00: Pro Mazda, which is different from USF2000, race 2. By the way Le Mans should be finished by now.
11.00: Indycar warm-up (how come they do about a month of practice at Indianapolis and don't need a morning warm-up?)
11.45: Piquet Lights again! I hope Piquet and Pigot qualify on the same row.
14.10: Idiot Truck Race Powered by Your Self-Hatred
15.30: Let's do the Indycar race! Incidentally on the Honda Indy Toronto website it just says "Drivers' Start Your Engines", which is an interesting way of interpreting that command. As if this is a special "Start Your Engines" just for the drivers, and by the way we all definitely know what a "Start Your Engines" is.
15.37: Pedantry out the way, the green flag should be waving
19.00: Gates Close. Anyone still in Exhibition Place will be considered property of Her Majesty and will at the earliest convenience be shipped to Alberta and injected into rocks at high velocity.

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What else do I need to know?

Calm down, racing is meant to be entertainment. You need to know nothing. You'll enjoy it more if you know nothing. Here's some carefully considered and concentrated nothing, below:

 

* Since the airporty Edmonton race disappeared into whatever scenery it is they have in Edmonton, the Indy Toronto at Exhibition Place has been the only stop in the land of Mounties, Phil Hartman and long car journeys. However, they haven't brought any Canadians with them. Mind you, if you've been near any Indycar news at all, you'll know that we're very lucky to have any Canadians on the Indycar roster at all.

 

* The Exhibition Place circuit? A classic, in the sense that politicians, ugly buildings and whores get respectable if they last long enough. Or in this case, featured in the film Driven. It has good overtaking sports in the sense that Bikini Atoll would be a good place for a holiday. While I go out and buy some replacements for these Eisenhower-era analogies, I'll leave you to recall the extraordinary Sunday-only double-header last year.

 

No Two in Toronto this time. Although given the noises during the offseason, we can be grateful for One in Ontario.

 

*News? There is no time for news. We have replaced news with motor races. Michael Andretti is depressed about aero kits and since the bloke responsible for them left the series almost three years ago in circumstances not entirely unconnected to Mikey, there doesn't seem to be much to be done. Not that it's stopping him!

 

*Actually that was a lie. We have driver changes and a Jeff Gordonesque Jurassic Park livery, all courtesy of the Buddhist Impermanence Parable that we gahapatika call Chip Ganassi Racing. Sage Karam, Indycar's answer to the Nissan GTR-LM, has been ordered to work off his debt to Chip Ganassi by working as his butler. Sebastian Saavedra, Indycar's answer to the Colin Le Mans, steps in to replace him. ­Expectations are low, but if repair bills are lower it will be some kind of victory for someone. Dale Coyne are sticking with Tristan Vautier and Rodolfo Gonzalez for a second successive weekend. Francesco Dracone, Indycar's answer to Garage 56, has disappeared from the scene.

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Chevrolet has a long, long history with dinosaurs. Me-ow!

 

And there you have it. The season is speeding to completion like a train that's terminating a couple of hours before your destination, and judging by previous form Toronto is likely to give us something. Well, enjoy it. What's the weather doing?


Edited by Risil, 13 June 2015 - 11:10.


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#2 Proto402

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 21:44

Finally, the real, more entertaining Canadian GP is here! Nice OP as always Risil.

#3 Prost1997T

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 22:13

I like the change back to one long race. As usual practice will be streamed, not sure about qualifying (depends when the NBCSN broadcast is).



#4 paulb

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 22:29

Great OP Risil. I think it is one of your higher g/wTM compositions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

g/wTM - Grins per word.


Edited by paulb, 11 June 2015 - 22:32.


#5 Afterburner

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 22:59

* Since the airporty Edmonton race disappeared into whatever scenery it is they have in Edmonton, the Indy Toronto at Exhibition Place has been the only stop in the land of Mounties, Phil Hartman and long car journeys.

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This must be the first time all year Dale Coin Racing has kept the same drivers for two consecutive races. :p

#6 Prost1997T

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 23:07

Vautier has been there since the Indy 500 (and I'm happy to see him get another shot at Indycar). As for Gonzalez on an oval...yeah... let's just say I'd be concerned for everyone's safety, considering how inept he looks on road\street courses. Then again, he helps fund Vautier's car..


Edited by Prost1997T, 11 June 2015 - 23:08.


#7 loki

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 23:53


This must be the first time all year Dale Coin Racing has kept the same drivers for two consecutive races. :p

Not so fast, there is still another 12-14 hours before the cars take the track...



#8 Radoye

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 01:03

So, who's going? :)



#9 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 01:24

Maybe next year, I've used up my vacation budget for 2015.

 

Just noticed I was mentioned in the poll, thanks Risil  ;)



#10 nvspace126

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 02:05

This is going to be my first Indy race (invested in two tickets for Indy, instead of one for the same price in Montreal) :clap:  Can't wait to see the racing, but a bit disappointed that Hitchcliff will not be racing.



#11 SR388

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 02:58

I'm a fan of Sato.

#12 HeadFirst

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 03:20

I'm a fan of Sato.

 

I'm sorry for your choice.



#13 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 04:34

This is going to be my first Indy race (invested in two tickets for Indy, instead of one for the same price in Montreal) :clap:  Can't wait to see the racing, but a bit disappointed that Hitchcliff will not be racing.

Have a super time. Get some race swag, there were lots of freebies at Long Beach this year, and unlike the F1 race, either hit the autograph sessions w/ free access to the paddock and even if are not into autographs, eyeballing the cars without their skins on is pretty interesting. 


Edited by whitewaterMkII, 12 June 2015 - 04:35.


#14 Peat

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 06:39

I've reached Indy-Weariness already. (Being distracted by Le Mans doesn't help) I can't imagine what it's like to have to crew the cars for this insane schedule. 



#15 Diablobb81

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 07:14


 The season is speeding to completion like a train that's terminating a couple of hours before your destination, and judging by previous form Toronto is likely to give us something.

 

Or premature ....... :blush:



#16 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 07:44

I'm a fan of Sato.

 

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#17 PayasYouRace

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 10:46

I'm not going to be able to watch this one  :cry:

 

Well I'm sure they'll be a full upload on Thursday that I can catch up on.



#18 prommer

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 10:47

Enjoy this street circuit racing while it lasts... nothing but Ovoids coming for the next month.

 

Including the MAVTV 500 from Fontana Powered by Lots of Reflective Aluminum Seating.



#19 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 10:53

Yet if you asked an old-school USAC era guy, you'd be told only permanent circuits (ovals and road courses) are suitable for Indycar.

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#20 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 12:50

I'm not going to be able to watch this one  :cry:

 

Well I'm sure they'll be a full upload on Thursday that I can catch up on.

Doubtful for me as well, unless I can find it in London. We land at 12.45, so after clearing Customs, getting to the hotel and so forth I highly doubt the wife is gonna let me escape...

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#21 HeadFirst

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 13:06

Yet if you asked an old-school USAC era guy, you'd be told only permanent circuits (ovals and road courses) are suitable for Indycar.

 

I'm an old-school USAC era guy (I even remember Langhorne) and I like all three types of racing. Street Festivals, as they used to be called, can be exciting and serve a purpose. I've been to the Toronto race several times and while the course is no match for nearby Mosport, it does bring the racing to the people.



#22 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 13:35

I'm an old-school USAC era guy (I even remember Langhorne) and I like all three types of racing. Street Festivals, as they used to be called, can be exciting and serve a purpose. I've been to the Toronto race several times and while the course is no match for nearby Mosport, it does bring the racing to the people.


Really? Your previous posts didn't suggest that. Going back to the race itself, I think the lack of Canadian drivers hurts the appeal a fair bit. If Tag had a one-off here it would help, and someone needs to back Scott Hargrove to get him through Indy Lights for a full season because he's shown well at the lower rungs.

#23 jonpollak

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 13:39

Doubtful for me as well, unless I can find it in London. We land at 12.45, so after clearing Customs, getting to the hotel and so forth I highly doubt the wife is gonna let me escape...

:|

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#24 Sheepmachine

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 13:45

Great OP Risil. Looking forward to this. :)

* The Exhibition Place circuit? A classic, in the sense that politicians, ugly buildings and whores get respectable if they last long enough. Or in this case, featured in the film Driven.

Driven ugh Shudders

#25 HeadFirst

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 13:49

I don't understand the pole question. Why would anyone pretend to watch a race?



#26 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 13:54

I don't understand the poll question. Why would anyone pretend to watch a race?


If you've been in these threads long enough you'll get the quirky humour ;-)

#27 JHSingo

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 13:58

If I'm not passed out after Le Mans, will definitely be checking in. Find it a pity this event isn't a double header anymore - I wish IndyCar had more of those. Although I guess it'd be difficult to do for the street courses, due to having the roads closed for an extra day etc.



#28 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 14:04

If I'm not passed out after Le Mans, will definitely be checking in. Find it a pity this event isn't a double header anymore - I wish IndyCar had more of those. Although I guess it'd be difficult to do for the street courses, due to having the roads closed for an extra day etc.


I find them too gimmicky, and doubles the potential for crash damage (given how little margin for error there is). The team personnel have already worked 10 back-to-back weeks, give the poor guys a rest :p

#29 metz

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 14:07

Great OP.

Sig worthy.... :smoking:



#30 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 14:11

http://racecontrol.indycar.com/

Streaming is up, Pro Mazda practice started a few minutes ago.

#31 PayasYouRace

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 14:13

If I'm not passed out after Le Mans, will definitely be checking in. Find it a pity this event isn't a double header anymore - I wish IndyCar had more of those. Although I guess it'd be difficult to do for the street courses, due to having the roads closed for an extra day etc.

 

They never took up an extra day though. They just condensed the pre-race timetable.



#32 JHSingo

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 14:25

They never took up an extra day though. They just condensed the pre-race timetable.

 

That's true, but I mean for other places. I guess that's one of the issues that prevents them from having double headers more often.

 

Two races a weekend, in a season that continues for longer and doesn't stop at the end of August, would be perfect for me.



#33 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 14:30

Piquet is pretty much "let's see what happens" before going out in Indy Lights practice.

#34 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 14:40

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Final times. Not too bad from Piquet, but it looks like Carlin aren't as quick here as they were at St Petersburg.

Edited by Prost1997T, 12 June 2015 - 14:50.


#35 Risil

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 17:20

Pigot/Piquet is not coming to fruition. I'm disappointed.

 

On the other hand, in the big cars Rahal is top Honda again and there are lots of Penskes at the top of the timesheets. CFH cars P3 and 4. :up:



#36 Andrew Hope

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 17:30

Penske tops the time sheets. Why? Five bucks on every Ganassi car, that's why.



#37 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 17:39

Penske tops the time sheets. Why? Five bucks on every Ganassi car, that's why.


They have the best personnel, the best drivers (as a group), the biggest budget and a direct relationship with the manufacturer.

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 18:20

http://www.jetlagbar.com/

They're waiting for you...

 

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mmmm, maybe not, nothing on their schedule for indy car...

:well:

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#39 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 18:40

Practice 1 times 

1. Juan Pablo Montoya © 104.198mph 1:00.6343s (8 laps) 
2. Simon Pagenaud © 103.928mph 1:00.7922s + 0.1579s (14 laps) 
3. Josef Newgarden © 103.852mph 1:00.8363s + 0.2020s (16 laps) 
4. Luca Filippi © 103.829mph 1:00.8500s + 0.2157s (17 laps) 
5. Sebastien Bourdais © 103.809mph 1:00.8620s + 0.2277s (13 laps) 
6. Will Power © 103.802mph 1:00.8656s + 0.2313s (12 laps) 
7. Helio Castroneves © 103.780mph 1:00.8788s + 0.2445s (13 laps) 
8. Graham Rahal (H) 103.688mph 1:00.9330s + 0.2987s (15 laps) 
9. Charlie Kimball © 103.429mph 1:01.0852s + 0.4509s (17 laps) 
10. Tony Kanaan © 103.278mph 1:01.1744s + 0.5401s (12 laps) 
11. Sebastian Saavedra © 103.254mph 1:01.1890s + 0.5547s (19 laps) 
12. Jack Hawksworth (H) 103.141mph 1:01.2562s + 0.6219s (18 laps) 
13. Takuma Sato (H) 103.127mph 1:01.2640s + 0.6297s (18 laps) 
14. James Jakes (H) 103.020mph 1:01.3277s + 0.6934s (16 laps) 
15. Ryan Hunter-Reay (H) 102.801mph 1:01.4586s + 0.8243s (14 laps) 
16. Carlos Munoz (H) 102.801mph 1:01.4588s + 0.8245s (17 laps) 
17. Scott Dixon © 102.715mph 1:01.5101s + 0.8758s (10 laps) 
18. Marco Andretti (H) 102.573mph 1:01.5950s + 0.9607s (16 laps) 
19. Gabby Chaves (H) 101.566mph 1:02.2061s + 1.5718s (20 laps) 
20. Stefano Coletti © 101.097mph 1:02.4942s + 1.8599s (18 laps) 
21. Conor Daly (H) 100.854mph 1:02.6453s + 2.0110s (19 laps) 
22. Tristan Vautier (H) 100.504mph 1:02.8632s + 2.2289s (15 laps) 
23. Rodolfo Gonzalez (H) 99.519mph 1:03.4852s + 2.8509s (16 laps)



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#40 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 18:44

Looking at the radar, a severe storm is on the way to Toronto...

Here's some onboard from FP1:


Edited by Prost1997T, 12 June 2015 - 18:49.


#41 Afterburner

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 19:02

Practice 1 times

I get it now--to be successful in Indycar you need a copyrighted name. :p

#42 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 19:45

I get it now--to be successful in Indycar you need a copyrighted name. :p

I'm pretty sure that's why Luca is so high on the timesheet...



#43 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 20:47

Ex-Formula Renault driver Raoul Owens crashes on the opening lap of Pro Mazda practice. Nice one...

#44 Risil

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 21:12

I can't stay mad at someone with a name like that.



#45 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 21:19

I can't stay mad at someone with a name like that.


Heh, going to be tough to qualify since he hasn't turned a full lap of the circuit yet (in two practice sessions). He's one of the two British drivers in the field, the other being Blancpain Pro-Am champion Alessandro Latif.

Edited by Prost1997T, 12 June 2015 - 21:20.


#46 Risil

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 21:21

Oh, I think I remember Latif from a Radio Le Mans interview. He has an absurdly posh voice.


Edited by Risil, 12 June 2015 - 21:21.


#47 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 21:26

Onboard with Piquet now on the stream. Hopefully they stay with it on his flying lap.

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 13:59

Indy Lights qualifying on the stream now, and Piquet spins on cold tyres.

Edited by Prost1997T, 13 June 2015 - 13:59.


#49 Prost1997T

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 14:30

Piquet grabs pole position by a tenth on his last lap.

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"[Toronto]'s one of the most difficult tracks I've driven in my life" in the qualifying interview.

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#50 Risil

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 14:38

:up: :up: