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[Marklar]

Hate?  Because of my comment I'm a hater?  I am literally laughing my ass off.   And because Nico is "struggling"  ????   
 
    It's amazing how many darts get thrown at your head when you say some critical about Lewis.  Over in the Nico/Lewis thread
a fellow called Nico a choker and there's a resounding applause...    

I can understand you but in this particular topic (about Lewis and the blame) I'm afraid to say that I'm strongly disagreeing with you, mate. They're is just no point on this matters to be critical....

[Strontiumdog]

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/119329

 

http://en.espn.co.uk...tory/51584.html

 

http://www.gpupdate....rcent-my-fault/

 

http://www.planetf1....aniel-ricciardo

 

http://www.f1fanatic...t-bad-hamilton/

 

http://www.crash.net...my-mistake.html

 

http://www.mirror.co...n-grand-4601330

 

This is what is known as "end of discussion"

[Marklar]

Did you guys figure out the grid yet? The provisional grid on F1 says:
"Fernando Alonso and Jenson Button will complete an all-world champion back row in Spielberg, with Red Bull’s Daniil Kvyat and Daniel Ricciardo starting 15th and 18th after their respective grid penalties were applied."
 
Why would Kvyat get up to 15th? I can see Ricciardo's but I don't understand how Kvyat would be 15th. Something was said on the Friday I think about only changing engines for Ric, so did this mess up the date putting the two Manor cars in between them?

Red Bull were the first to inform the stewarts so they first got the penalty which means
Kvyat 8 -> 18
Ricciardo 14 -> 24

Than McLaren
Alonso 15 -> 35
Button 17 -> 42

Than georbox penalty
Alonso 35 -> 40

Kvyat is moving three positions up (these position the others lost) so he is now 15th.

The others in the correct order from 18 to 20th.

[andrewf1]

 

 Hate?  Because of my comment I'm a hater?  I am literally laughing my ass off.   And because Nico is "struggling"  ????   

 

    It's amazing how many darts get thrown at your head when you say some critical about Lewis.  Over in the Nico/Lewis thread

a fellow called Nico a choker and there's a resounding applause...          

 

Making things up doesn't qualify as being critical 

 

Better luck next time! 

 

[MastaKink]

Still, he should refrain from using these tactics to try and hide his jealousy. It's blindingly clear he's more envious of Vettel this season than ever before (which is saying something)

 

What part of that interview is the problem?.  He says the same thing he's been saying all season and what Allison also says was the reason for leaving Ferrari.

 

 

I'd say It's blindingly clear he's envious of the Mercedes boys, as are all other drivers.  Why be envious of the current best of the rest?. And stranger still you think he'd be more envious of Seb now rather than when it was Seb sitting in the class leading car.  Bonkers. 

Edited by MastaKink, 21 June 2015 - 03:18.

[Riverside]

I can understand you but in this particular topic (about Lewis and the blame) I'm afraid to say that I'm strongly disagreeing with you, mate. They're is just no point on this matters to be critical....

 

 

 We'll see when there's no mention of a problem found on Lewis's car yesterday .. just like last year.  

[Riverside]

 

 

 

Making things up doesn't qualify as being critical 

 

Better luck next time! 

 

 

   I am not making nothing up.  I don't quantify a few words from Lewis about lift and coast as "proof of adaptability"  or "what is necessary to win GP's these days."

It's really incredible how you over react to anything said about Lewis.   Truly it is. 

[Riverside]

This is what is known as "end of discussion"

 

 

 Sure,   certainly when the first three are revised admissions of blame ---  Insinuating Button pushed him in the wall... Kobayshi is an idiot and had no business coming up behind him

and the latest it was not his decision to to got out in the rain in Montreal.        

 

 The discussion is about Lewis saying there was a possibly a problem that caused him to spin out yesterday in Austria... there's been nothing confirmed about that.. he said the 

same thing last year and the team (Toto) said there was nothing mechanical with the car that caused the spin.   If you are all that bothered by someone mentioning this - I can just imagine

what the reaction would be on something major...  

[FrontWing]

   I am not making nothing up.  I don't quantify a few words from Lewis about lift and coast as "proof of adaptability"  or "what is necessary to win GP's these days."

It's really incredible how you over react to anything said about Lewis.   Truly it is. 

 

Oh the irony. The only over reaction I see here is from you. Perhaps there wont be anything wrong with his car, but wouldn't you check anyway before a race? Time to move on, race day today.

[kvyatfan]

Red Bull were the first to inform the stewarts so they first got the penalty which means
Kvyat 8 -> 18
Ricciardo 14 -> 24

Than McLaren
Alonso 15 -> 35
Button 17 -> 42

Than georbox penalty
Alonso 35 -> 40

Kvyat is moving three positions up (these position the others lost) so he is now 15th.

The others in the correct order from 18 to 20th.

So he moves up because he qualified better? Makes sense, but not these 25-40 grid penalties.

[Marklar]

So he moves up because he qualified better? Makes sense, but not these 25-40 grid penalties.

No, because he virtually have the best position after the penaltys compare to the others (18th, 24th, 40th, 42nd)

[Marklar]

Sure, certainly when the first three are revised admissions of blame --- Insinuating Button pushed him in the wall... Kobayshi is an idiot and had no business coming up behind him
and the latest it was not his decision to to got out in the rain in Montreal.

The discussion is about Lewis saying there was a possibly a problem that caused him to spin out yesterday in Austria... there's been nothing confirmed about that.. he said the
same thing last year and the team (Toto) said there was nothing mechanical with the car that caused the spin. If you are all that bothered by someone mentioning this - I can just imagine
what the reaction would be on something major...

The discussion was that according to you he would always try to find a little excuse. And we already disprove you on this matter (eg China 2015, Japan 2010). But you succeesfully ignored it....

And about last years spin he thought that something was strange and later it was proven by the Data that he simply brake to late. This year he thought that he brake again to late and it was his fault but the data proved that he brake exactly the same like in the previous lap. How is that the same?

(Anyway why are you starting this discussion on this thread?)

Edited by Marklar, 21 June 2015 - 05:35.

[Marklar]

Thats how Adam Cooper figured out....


Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperF1
A) KVY to 18th. B) RIC to 20th (KVY 17th). C) ALO to 20th (KVY 16th, RIC 19th). D) BUT to 20th (KVY 15th, RIC 18th, ALO 19th)...

[DarthWillie]

At least there is always a close battle between Hamilton and Rosberg to look forward to, unlike with Ferrari and Red Bull because they had rubbish, number 2 drivers. Schumi won 48 races in 2000 to 2004.

There is no close battle, when Nico looked like beating Lewis last year he was promoted to tier 1 driver as an excuse. Nico is a top midfield driver whose reputation got overrated by Lewis's problems and underperforming in qualifying last year. This year the difference is more as expected

[kvyatfan]

No, because he virtually have the best position after the penaltys compare to the others (18th, 24th, 40th, 42nd)

Ok, thanks. Makes sense, I was just confusing myself with all the timestamp talk, and I'm geared to thinking there are more than 20 cars.

[DarthWillie]

http://uk.reuters.co...N0P00Q020150620

LOL! Fernando is hilarious. I'm sure they are all much pleased than he is... what a sad, little man.

I actually believe him, I think it is the same reason Lewis left McLaren and Vettel Red Bull, these guys need new motivation if they don't see any progress in the near future.

If he needs to keep telling it like that over and over again? Probably not

[Marklar]

Ok, thanks. Makes sense, I was just confusing myself with all the timestamp talk, and I'm geared to thinking there are more than 20 cars.

Yes the timestamp talk is relevant because Kvyat and Ricciardo were getting their penaltys first. I'm stil not sure how they figure it out. Mr. Coopers version sounds better to be honest