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#101 Jonnycraig37

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 17:21

They shouldn't have to, but surely it would be better for the family to just release a statement, that would stop all this idle speculation, and make the media parasites move on. It's not about right or wrong, its just the way the world is now.


In fairness, the family have allowed information to be leaked out, between the lines in the comments that they haven't refuted.

From Brawn's comments that he didn't want to bother the family, to Brundle (who speaks to Ross more than Mrs Brawn) saying that he wished Schumacher could've seen the Malaysia race, to Webber saying Vettel was massively affected by Schumachers injuries.

Added to the reports of a 24 hour care facility built within the family house, to the family denying reports that his condition that he's even had so much as a rudimentary improvement, to even so much as the increased public appearances of the family you can make an informed guess as to his condition.

The likely reality is that his family and close friends have grieved the loss of Michael Schumacher in all but physical form and are trying to move on with their lives, as must those who never knew him. That's not to say he should ever be forgotten of course, but equally I don't see how the family going public and letting everyone know as much is in the public interest. They might be 'famous' but they are still entitled to some privacy.

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#102 SonJR

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 21:45

I just hope Mick won't be hounded too much about his father as he makes his way up the motorsports ladder.

It might be pretty easy to avoid too much media attention in F4, but it will get more difficult, surely. I also hope it doesn't ruin his passion for racing.



#103 Silverstone96

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 23:06

Sadly someone in Michael's condition will also have a greatly reduced life expectancy, sometimes 5-10 years

#104 kamikaze1

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 01:23

Errm... just to remind people, the title of the thread... positive thoughts etc.   I'm sure there are better threads for the negative discussion.  


Edited by kamikaze1, 23 December 2015 - 01:25.


#105 Schumacher7

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 03:06

Sadly someone in Michael's condition will also have a greatly reduced life expectancy, sometimes 5-10 years

I'm not a biologist by any stretch of the imagination but is it possible (aimed generally not at the person I've quoted) that during Michael's lifetime significant advancements could be made in stem cell research that could lead to a reasonable recovery?

I've always been a little hazy around stem cells and the extent to which they can help people to recover. They're unspecialised cells that can become any cell in the body, yes? Could they be used to repair the brain in the future or does the nature of brain injuries such as this one mean that irrepairable damage is done or do stem cells simply not work in this way?



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 03:38

Nature decides his condition and the family have their right to release it or not, so we have one job- keep happy thoughts and looking forward into the future.



#107 Andy35

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 06:25

Releasing a detailed statement on his condition would not stop the stories. Not in the long term. It may stop them that week or that month.. but fast forward a couple of months and another story of the same nature would appear in another tabloid. The family would have to release statements practically every month to have any real impact on the potential stories appearing.

 

 

Looking at Jules Bianchi I didn't see that happening though. The family released information which was respectful to Jules but also advised his status. I believe the way they handled it garnered a lot of sympathy from both the press and the public.

 

I may have missed stories though of that nature you say.

 

I think with Michael there is such a black hole that people will inevitably try to fill it with something, even if it is rubbish.

 

Andy



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 06:57

When I am thinking of Schumacher I always remember the words of an austrian doctor who said 100 days after the accident who is also member of the medical commision of FIA:

 

"The case Schumacher is 99,9% finished with such injuries. In earlier times such a patient would have died, today they become dependent on care."


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#109 messy

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:15

I'd love it to be true that Schumacher had improved, but it clearly isn't and to be honest as a fan I've already resigned myself to his loss in all but physical form long since. Remember him for his heroics, his brilliance in those Ferrari's. His impact on the sport, his personality, the way he polarised opinion, his clashes with Hill, Villeneuve, DC, his battles with Hakkinen. Because those are the things that made him such a significant figure in the first place and they won't be forgotten in any hurry. The thought of him in the state he's in right now, i don't even want to think about it. I'd love a miracle here so badly, but...

#110 kraduk

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 12:21

Looking at Jules Bianchi I didn't see that happening though. The family released information which was respectful to Jules but also advised his status. I believe the way they handled it garnered a lot of sympathy from both the press and the public.

 

I may have missed stories though of that nature you say.

 

I think with Michael there is such a black hole that people will inevitably try to fill it with something, even if it is rubbish.

 

Andy

 

 

I do think Jules family handled the media better, but every case is individual and its the family's right to handle it the way they want. I just hope it doesn't cause them difficulty in the future, especially with his children looking like they might enter the limelight in a few years.



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 12:27

The priority is Michael's care. They don't have to give press briefings because, frankly, it is nobody's business.

 

People will speculate and twist words whatever they say so why bother.



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 12:50

The priority is Michael's care. They don't have to give press briefings because, frankly, it is nobody's business.

 

People will speculate and twist words whatever they say so why bother.

You can do better than that. The more you don't say, the more f.e. the press will try to fill in the blanks and make up stories. Last year I personally debunked a story from a Czech journalist who wrote about a chip for Schumachers brain to aid him. Turned out the mentioned doctor knew nothing about it and Schumacher was only mentioned because of the clicks. Besides; the Bianchi family showed us exactly how much you can tell by giving so little information.


Edited by Jejking, 23 December 2015 - 12:51.


#113 Nonesuch

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 13:25

The priority is Michael's care.

 

Kehm is not a doctor. She can write a single paragraph about how Michael is doing every month and it'll barely cost her any time or effort at all.

 

Whether Kehm is being secretive or talking about it openly won't change Michael's condition one bit, and all those who are close to him personally already know how he is doing anyway.



#114 Jonnycraig37

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 13:47

Kehm is not a doctor. She can write a single paragraph about how Michael is doing every month and it'll barely cost her any time or effort at all.

Whether Kehm is being secretive or talking about it openly won't change Michael's condition one bit, and all those who are close to him personally already know how he is doing anyway.


Except that one paragraph will always be the same - 'no change'.

You wouldn't go down to the local ICU and badger the families of those with TBIs. Schumachers family should be afforded the same right to privacy in dealing with their loss.

#115 Marklar

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 13:48

Generally Im not sure if its really just because of his privacy. I believe that Kehm may want to keep the pictures everyone is associating with Schumacher alive. The picture of a dominator. Would she reveal his condition and if it is a bad condition, then people will associating him in a wheelchair. Something nobody of us want, and something which isnt from the manager POV good as well.

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 16:22

Generally Im not sure if its really just because of his privacy. I believe that Kehm may want to keep the pictures everyone is associating with Schumacher alive. The picture of a dominator. Would she reveal his condition and if it is a bad condition, then people will associating him in a wheelchair. Something nobody of us want, and something which isnt from the manager POV good as well.

 

You are slightly overthinking this. 'generally' it is his wife and his kids who decide how to approach the case of releasing any information to he media NOT Kehm. Furthermore, it is not a case of 'his' privacy, it is the case of his family's(mainly his wife and children) privacy, Michael doesn't give xxxx, in his present condition. If his family want's privacy, it is in their right, and no one can question that.



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 16:28

Except that one paragraph will always be the same - 'no change'.

 

So be it. It would make it even easier for Kehm to write such statements.
 

You wouldn't go down to the local ICU and badger the families of those with TBIs. Schumachers family should be afforded the same right to privacy in dealing with their loss.

The people at said local hospital aren't world champions who had their own magazine and ran a global fanclub. People want to know how the man they cheered on for the better part of two decades is doing. That's hardly a surprise.

 

Kehm claims that 'given the seriousness of his injuries, his privacy is very important for Michael' but there is no relation between these things. Michael isn't going to be better or worse off if Kehm gives an honest account of his condition; and if it is as bad as we can piece together from various statements made over the past two years (!) then he probably has no clue what is happening in the outside world. As tragic as that is for him.

 

Generally Im not sure if its really just because of his privacy.

 

I don't follow your reasoning and example, but it is true that people like Michael Schumacher aren't just private persons, they're tied up in an enormous web of (financial) interests, from Mercedes and his own business that licenses products to his private matters.



#118 Marklar

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 16:37

You are slightly overthinking this. 'generally' it is his wife and his kids who decide how to approach the case of releasing any information to he media NOT Kehm. Furthermore, it is not a case of 'his' privacy, it is the case of his family's(mainly his wife and children) privacy, Michael doesn't give xxxx, in his present condition. If his family want's privacy, it is in their right, and no one can question that.

As I said the privacy is one and probably the main factor. But I wonder whether widely speculations as we have them now are really better than just doing that in the same manner like the Bianchi family.

Furthermore Im not sure that just Corrina is deciding what will be leaked out. But we dont know it. Maybe because of the career start of Mick.

Schumacher is one of the most popular sportsmen ever. You have to think about it exactly what you can publish, because it will affect many people (for instance it would hurt me if we find out that Schumacher is unable to do anything). Maybe Im overthinking it, but something doesnt strike me generally.

#119 Jonnycraig37

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 17:47

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Kehm claims that 'given the seriousness of his injuries, his privacy is very important for Michael' but there is no relation between these things. Michael isn't going to be better or worse off if Kehm gives an honest account of his condition; and if it is as bad as we can piece together from various statements made over the past two years (!) then he probably has no clue what is happening in the outside world. As tragic as that is for him..


You've missed the point of her statement spectacularly there. She's essentially saying, 'Michael was a proud and private person who wouldn't know the public to know that he's in a vegetative state'.

To which your opinion is that because of the severity of his injuries, it shouldn't matter what he would've wanted and so you should be told.

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 18:35

I think with Michael there is such a black hole that people will inevitably try to fill it with something, even if it is rubbish.

 

I don't think privacy should be considered a "black hole" that should be filled with anything in the media. It's privacy. Doesn't matter how famous the person is or how successful they were at driving an F1 car. It's the decision of the family and that should be respected. 



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 20:07

To which your opinion is that because of the severity of his injuries, it shouldn't matter what he would've wanted and so you should be told.

 

I don't necessarily want to be told anything; it seems pretty clear from everything out there what Michael's condition and outlook is. It's tragic for him, but it is what it is.

I'm just dumbfounded by Kehm's approach to this matter. She could prevent most of these supposedly 'irresponsible' articles by setting the narrative herself instead of only reacting. Because she will do that - pretty much every time.

 

It's become quite obvious that the best way to find out if Michael can do this or that is to run an article saying he can and is. All you need to do then is wait for Kehm to deny it.

 

Even if I don't think it's a good idea, I could understand her not saying anything at all; but this current behaviour seems odd and counter-productive.



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 20:18

In fairness, the family have allowed information to be leaked out, between the lines in the comments that they haven't refuted.
From Brawn's comments that he didn't want to bother the family, to Brundle (who speaks to Ross more than Mrs Brawn) saying that he wished Schumacher could've seen the Malaysia race, to Webber saying Vettel was massively affected by Schumachers injuries.
Added to the reports of a 24 hour care facility built within the family house, to the family denying reports that his condition that he's even had so much as a rudimentary improvement, to even so much as the increased public appearances of the family you can make an informed guess as to his condition.
The likely reality is that his family and close friends have grieved the loss of Michael Schumacher in all but physical form and are trying to move on with their lives, as must those who never knew him. That's not to say he should ever be forgotten of course, but equally I don't see how the family going public and letting everyone know as much is in the public interest. They might be 'famous' but they are still entitled to some privacy.


I think this is a fair synopsis of the current state of MS's current condition.

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 21:02

I don't necessarily want to be told anything; it seems pretty clear from everything out there what Michael's condition and outlook is. It's tragic for him, but it is what it is.

I'm just dumbfounded by Kehm's approach to this matter. She could prevent most of these supposedly 'irresponsible' articles by setting the narrative herself instead of only reacting. Because she will do that - pretty much every time.

It's become quite obvious that the best way to find out if Michael can do this or that is to run an article saying he can and is. All you need to do then is wait for Kehm to deny it.

Even if I don't think it's a good idea, I could understand her not saying anything at all; but this current behaviour seems odd and counter-productive.

I think you're quite naive about how the gutter press operate.

If the family released a statement saying that Schumacher was a vegetable with 0 hope of recovery, there would be the understandable outpouring of sadness and sympathy, but it wouldn't stop the stories. Give it 6 months or a year, and the gutter press would have stories out about minor improvements just to provoke a response.

Equally your criticism of the line that the family have taken is strange as their only responses are to refute false stories and ask once again to be left alone. If they didn't respond to the false reports, they would soon be inundated with queries as to why the now apparently fully fit and healthy Schumacher wasn't being seen publicly.

They are stuck between and rock and a hard place and so have chosen to follow Schumachers own personal life wishes.

Edited by Jonnycraig37, 23 December 2015 - 21:03.


#124 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 21:14

Can we get back to the matter at hand

Get well soon me ansome

#125 Andy35

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 23:05

Can we get back to the matter at hand

Get well soon me ansome

 

Unfortunately we don't know his full condition so your "get well soon" could be very pointless unfortunately. 

 

Get well soon me ansome sounds rather flippant.  I wish he could.

 

:(


Edited by Andy35, 23 December 2015 - 23:05.


#126 YoungGun

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 09:27

Unfortunately we don't know his full condition so your "get well soon" could be very pointless unfortunately. 

 

 

Well wishes should never be frowned upon, as it sends a strong message of encouragement to everyone affected. 



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 09:53

Schumachers Ex-manager Willi Webber admitted in 'Express' that he cant watch motor racing anymore since the Schumi accident as it would remind him to much about him.

He says that the doctors are saying that the brain damage is very grave.

He says that Schumacher is stil doing small improvements, but doesnt know on which level...

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 10:05

Thing is it's pretty easy to get a good picture of how Schumi is doing by Sabine's comments, it's clear he is not in a good condition, but he is in a better position than Jules was so there's still hope.

 

Wishing the Schumacher family all the best for the festive period and beyond.



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 10:31

There's no point in meaningless speculation as to whether he will or will not get well soon.... or ever.

The simple fact of the matter is... I wish him to get well soon.

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 15:09

I can't believe this has been nearly 2 years already. I keep imagining one day, after all this secrecy, he'll suddenly jump on the podium after a race and do the interviews with that trademark grin of his, but obviously that's not going to happen. 



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 15:26

No sadly Michael will not be seen again public

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 18:10

 

The people at said local hospital aren't world champions who had their own magazine and ran a global fanclub. People want to know how the man they cheered on for the better part of two decades is doing. That's hardly a surprise.

 

 

None of the above has any relevance.  I could want to know how MSC is doing, but that confers no obligation for anyone to tell me.  Anymore than I'd quite like to know Kylie Minogue's mobile phone number.  It's entirely MSC's family's business and Kehn is acting on their behalf (MSC's situation, not Kylie's phone number).

 

Yes, there will be speculation if there is no information, but there will be anyway.  If a statement is released saying MSC can do this, can't do that, then 24 hour news will fill up with speculation about what this means  - what treatments is he getting, should he be getting, what is the prognosis.  Etc.  And that means that the family will be faced with that every time they turn on the news, open a newspaper, surf the web or watch the GP coverage after the information comes out and so on.

 

And then be questioned about it by those lovable members of the fourth estate who are always, without fail, tactful and courteous as they yell questions from within a mob.



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 20:28

Exactly. MS, like any other celebrity in medical peril, is still a human being with a human family, and that does not give anybody a right to snoop about their business and broadcast it to the world if its not what they want. 

 

He was also one of the more fiercely private celebrities, which I have eternal respect for, and his family, spokespeople and carers certainly don't want to be seen going against that. 



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Posted 25 December 2015 - 01:12

Yep, people should respect his family's wishes and **** off, wanting to know something doesn't give you a right to know it.

That journalist that posed as a priest to try and gain access to his bedside initially was scum personified, the lowest of the low.



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Posted 26 December 2015 - 00:23

The priority is Michael's care. They don't have to give press briefings because, frankly, it is nobody's business.


And giving briefings will not help Michael or those who care for him. So I agree with you 100%.

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Posted 26 December 2015 - 10:32

Corinna does not allow Willi Weber to visit Michael, says Weber.



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Posted 27 December 2015 - 14:21

None of the above has any relevance.  I could want to know how MSC is doing, but that confers no obligation for anyone to tell me.  Anymore than I'd quite like to know Kylie Minogue's mobile phone number.  It's entirely MSC's family's business and Kehn is acting on their behalf (MSC's situation, not Kylie's phone number).

 

Yes, there will be speculation if there is no information, but there will be anyway.  If a statement is released saying MSC can do this, can't do that, then 24 hour news will fill up with speculation about what this means  - what treatments is he getting, should he be getting, what is the prognosis.  Etc.  And that means that the family will be faced with that every time they turn on the news, open a newspaper, surf the web or watch the GP coverage after the information comes out and so on.

 

And then be questioned about it by those lovable members of the fourth estate who are always, without fail, tactful and courteous as they yell questions from within a mob.

 

 

This exactly. The idea that an official statement would quiet down the press is ludicrous. At the minute, there's a story in a trashy magazine every few months, not every few hours.

 

The Bianchi family have a) a very different level of fame, and b) because of that, a very different relationship with the press. The difference in how they've been treated is not entirely or even mostly due to their reaction, just the difference between a 40 year old 7 times world champion who had been world famous for 20 years and a young man who, however promising, was only known to people who actually watched racing. The level of interest is vastly different.

 

Bianchi had no children to protect either - Schumacher has a 15 year old and a 17 year old, who not only have to live their lives with their entire school knowing their life stories (because school gossip isn't nice to deal with even if it's not on the international news), but they've got to go off to their respective sporting careers with two junior championships between them and try and perform while everyone there knows all their family business too.



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Posted 27 December 2015 - 14:34

I rather suspect that the situation is very similar to that of Jules Bianchi but that the Bianchi family made the ultimate final decision regarding his treatment and the Schumacher family have not made such a decision.

We have sadly, as they say in America, lost Michael Schumacher

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 15:05

None of the above has any relevance.  I could want to know how MSC is doing, but that confers no obligation for anyone to tell me.


It's not an argument in favour of any one course of action, merely a statement of the obvious. People are more interested in Michael Schumacher than they are in a random guy who, while no doubt a fine person, neither has nor had the kind of global exposure Michael Schumacher had and fostered.

Everybody knows that Kehm can't be forced to say this or that. It's not in question.

However, if that's how Kehm wants to handle this, she might want to reconsider the ease by which she can be provoked into responding to speculation.
 

Corinna does not allow Willi Weber to visit Michael, says Weber.

 

Not a great surprise in light of other statements from people 'in the business'.

Weber's full statement for those who don't read German:

'Dear friends,
I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Furthermore, I want to say that in his interview in The Morgenpost [a newspaper] Mr. Reuter failed to mention that since the accident Corinna Schumacher has prevented me from having any contact with Michael. To this day I cannot visit my friend. Unfortunately I am left with no other option than to keep him in my good memories. I tried everything to come to him and to see him. That I would always be at his side speaks for itself. I would do everything possible to improve his situation. The comments made online are completely unjustified.
Yours, Willi Weber'


Bild called him to ask him about the situation. Weber said: 'Unfortunately it is as simple as I have written on Facebook. Corinna prevents me from having any contact with Michael. I have tried umpteen times to get Corinna's permission to visit him, every time without success.' He continued: 'I can't say anything about the reasons, I don't know them. I don't know what is behind this. There are always other reasons and excuses. Recently it was said that a fear of bacteria made visits impossible.' Weber concluded: 'The situation is terrible for me; my family suffers as well. Our familes were so close for 25 years - and now this. Nobody can understand this.'


Edited by Nonesuch, 27 December 2015 - 15:16.


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#140 George Costanza

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 16:10

I rather suspect that the situation is very similar to that of Jules Bianchi but that the Bianchi family made the ultimate final decision regarding his treatment and the Schumacher family have not made such a decision.

We have sadly, as they say in America, lost Michael Schumacher

It is incredibly sad but you are right on. We will always have the memories of Michael.

Edited by George Costanza, 27 December 2015 - 16:11.


#141 Tsarwash

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 18:55

I think that the Bianchi family handled the situation much better. If you have recently been one of the most famous and richest sportsmen in the world, and something like this happens, the media and fans are always going to want to try to find out the actual situation. Not releasing an accurate picture of his condition has allowed the bottom feeders to speculate.

You've missed the point of her statement spectacularly there. She's essentially saying, 'Michael was a proud and private person who wouldn't know the public to know that he's in a vegetative state'.

This is an example of the conclusions that people come to if there is no official comments come to light. As far as we have been told, Michael is NOT in a vegetative stater at all, but has moments of consciousness and is suffering serious memory issues as well as physical issues.

#142 Laura23

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 03:20

I think that the Bianchi family handled the situation much better. If you have recently been one of the most famous and richest sportsmen in the world, and something like this happens, the media and fans are always going to want to try to find out the actual situation. Not releasing an accurate picture of his condition has allowed the bottom feeders to speculate.This is an example of the conclusions that people come to if there is no official comments come to light. As far as we have been told, Michael is NOT in a vegetative stater at all, but has moments of consciousness and is suffering serious memory issues as well as physical issues.


Did the family ever actually say Michael was out of a coma though? As far as I recall they just announced he'd be returning home and care would take place there now rather than the hospital. I presume they did this partly because controlling info becomes that bit easier.

We have no idea what condition the champ is in. Nor do I really want to know since I want to remember him as the man who made Hungary 1998 possible.

#143 Tsarwash

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 04:23

Did the family ever actually say Michael was out of a coma though? As far as I recall they just announced he'd be returning home and care would take place there now rather than the hospital. I presume they did this partly because controlling info becomes that bit easier.

We have no idea what condition the champ is in. Nor do I really want to know since I want to remember him as the man who made Hungary 1998 possible.

I am very sorry but that is proving my point. If the family never properly confirmed actually what state he is in then it just gives space for speculation. I know about privacy, but just say roughly where he is, considering that he is actually one of the most famous people in the whole world. Because if you do not, so many people are going to speculate and assume facts are true when they are not. This hurts. Not just for the family but also for the millions of avid fans across this globe. Just tell people vaguely where he is. This media silence stuff is not making anybody feel any better.
If I was a such famous person and I had an accident of this sort, I wouldn't want literally millions of people to be kept in the dark because my family couldn't cope with it. With greatness comes great responsibility.

Edited by Tsarwash, 28 December 2015 - 04:23.


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 08:23

Hate to say it but I think the family are just delaying the inevitable  :(



#145 FredrikB

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 08:26

I am very sorry but that is proving my point. If the family never properly confirmed actually what state he is in then it just gives space for speculation. 

 

Revealing any kind of info would only create even more speculation imho.

Every time the family would release anything we would see experts analyzing every word of it in endless speculation about what could happen and his prognosis.



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Posted 28 December 2015 - 08:54

Did the family ever actually say Michael was out of a coma though?

 

Yes, on 16 June 2014.

 

No significant updates since, though.



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Posted 28 December 2015 - 09:41

I am very sorry but that is proving my point. If the family never properly confirmed actually what state he is in then it just gives space for speculation. I know about privacy, but just say roughly where he is, considering that he is actually one of the most famous people in the whole world. Because if you do not, so many people are going to speculate and assume facts are true when they are not. This hurts. Not just for the family but also for the millions of avid fans across this globe. Just tell people vaguely where he is. This media silence stuff is not making anybody feel any better.
If I was a such famous person and I had an accident of this sort, I wouldn't want literally millions of people to be kept in the dark because my family couldn't cope with it. With greatness comes great responsibility.

 

Why? And please tell how what you express affects your life?



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Posted 28 December 2015 - 09:56

I rather suspect that the situation is very similar to that of Jules Bianchi but that the Bianchi family made the ultimate final decision regarding his treatment and the Schumacher family have not made such a decision.

We have sadly, as they say in America, lost Michael Schumacher

 

In what fragile state of mind are you to IMPLY the Bianchi family pulled the plug on Jules? Outrageous and baffling.

 

 

Yes, on 16 June 2014.

 

No significant updates since, though.

Source: http://www.bbc.com/n...europe-27868787


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 10:39

The direction the posts have taken in the last page shows exactly why releasing so little information on his condition is such an invitation for the press to make stuff up. I don't think we'll see the Michael Schumacher we remember ever again, but also talk of him being in a vegetative state and in the same condition as Bianchi was are waaaaay wide of the mark.

Bianchi was dead from the second he hit that vehicle at Suzuka, realistically. They kept his body alive in the hope that there would be a miracle. No suggestion from anyone that they made any decision to pull the plug. No miracle, his body died after a few months.

Schumacher, from the little we've been told, has his eyes open, can sit in a wheelchair and has some level of consciousness.

There is very little genuinely good news there - it's no real life - but there's zero comparison with Bianchi Really either.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 10:57

The "pro information people" have missed the point though haven't you?

 

People on this forum are (somewhat outrageously) speculating.  But that's confined into a clearly indicated thread on a minority forum.  So if you are a family member you can avoid it easily.

 

If the family release a press release not only will forums like this light up, but so will TV news and sports programmes, people will tweet and post on Facebook directly to the family to discuss what has nothing to do with them.  Idiots will post opinions onto youtube, other idiots will push those videos up so that they are difficult to avoid.  You force the family to have to turn away from the media output.

 

Then, as i posted earlier, members of the press will start using the press release as a tool to question the family - it will be news, they will "go live" because there is an event to hook the reports on.

 

And of course the press of today asks the awful leading questions such as "How awfully, horribly,upset are you that your dad is in such and such state, can you cry into this camera please?"

 

And the family needs to risk all this so a load of unrelated people with nothing better to do but ghoulishly spend a few minutes passing time with someone's life and trauma before they click on another video of a cat playing the piano?

 

It's not a soap opera, it's their lives, for them to decide what they do.