Does anyone have any information on motor racing in Puerto Rico during the 1950's or 1960's.
Possibly there was some events at the Air Force base SAC in Ramey Puerto Rico​
Love to hear from anyone with any info
terry
Posted 07 November 2015 - 02:05
Does anyone have any information on motor racing in Puerto Rico during the 1950's or 1960's.
Possibly there was some events at the Air Force base SAC in Ramey Puerto Rico​
Love to hear from anyone with any info
terry
Posted 07 November 2015 - 08:11
Not much info there? Love the program cover which seems to have no connection with the entry I don;t remember this event being reported by Autosport which would have been about a week after first Mexican GP.
Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:49
Edited by bradbury west, 07 November 2015 - 09:56.
Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:51
As ever, thanks Tim
RL
Posted 07 November 2015 - 13:29
I distinctly recall that the race identified by Vince above appeared as a feature c/w photos in the pages of Road & Track magazine. Probably published in early '63. Worth pursuing...
Posted 07 November 2015 - 16:50
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Posted 08 November 2015 - 00:24
I found this on Google with a great photo attached
It is more this sports car racing we are trying to research
http://forums.motorl...?t=28486&page=4
Given the date of the "duck" this event took place in 1955. Notice how the cars are positioned "in the ear" (with an S) and you will recognize, Aston Martin DB 2/4, Austin Healey, Triumph TR3, Jaguar XK 120 or 140 or both, Ford Thunderbird, .... Obviously the track used was a basic AIR FORCE - AIR FORCE BASE - (LBS) de Puerto Rico; you will see the big bombers B36 hexamoteurs "Peacemaker". The article, very few prolific, even when means the winner Paul-E. Fontaine on Jaguar and in ladies, Miss Rosita Merino of San Juan, ranked fourth aboard a MG sedan bearing No. 5. That my friends, I wrote everything I could reap. Who can help ?
Compte tenu de la date du "canard" cette épreuve s'est déroulée en 1955.
Remarquez comment les voitures sont positionnées "en épis" (avec un S) et vous reconnaîtrez, Aston Martin DB 2/4, Austin Healey, Triumph TR3, Jaguar XK 120 ou 140 voire les deux, Ford Thunderbird, ....
Visiblement la piste utilisée fut une base de l'AIR FORCE - AIR FORCE BASE - (A.F.B) de Puerto Rico; vous apercevrez des gros bombardiers B36 hexamoteurs "Peacemaker".
L'article, très peu prolixe, désigne quand même le vainqueur, Paul-E. Fontaine sur Jaguar et chez les dames, Mlle Rosita Merino de San Juan, classée 4e à bord d'une M.G. berline portant le n° 5.
Voilà mes amis, je vous ai écrit tout ce que j'ai pu récolter.
Qui peut aider ?
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Edited by terry mcgrath, 08 November 2015 - 00:25.
Posted 08 November 2015 - 03:11
Just a little fiber for this thread: In 1957-58 at Little Rock AFB I knew a Sergeant Karel Janacek or Janecek who spoke of racing on Ramey Air Force Base, Puerto Rico. That's all I remember. There is a Karel Janecek who overwhelms my Googler.
Posted 08 November 2015 - 06:53
I distinctly recall that the race identified by Vince above appeared as a feature c/w photos in the pages of Road & Track magazine. Probably published in early '63. Worth pursuing...
Competition Press, Vol. 9-No. 10, November 24, 1962, featured extensive coverage of this race (and support races), including photos by Al Bochroch. Motoracing newspaper also briefly covered the first three support races which were held the weekend before the GP. Motoracing must have covered the GP too, but I don't have that edition my computer.
Vince H.
Posted 08 November 2015 - 14:30
A fact that I have not seen mentioned, but undoubtedly played a big role in the 1962 pro race flop, is that the Cuban missile crisis was still ongoing. Understandably, this had a deleterious effect on attendance and entries.
In 2003 the SCCA ran a Trans Am race on the runways and taxiways of the airport located in the San Juan harbor. Local driver Willy Castro won in a Ford Mustang. Must have lost money as the event was not repeated.
Tom
Posted 08 November 2015 - 15:07
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Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:09
So that would be the David Ash who raced?
Vince H.
Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:13
In 2003 the SCCA ran a Trans Am race on the runways and taxiways of the airport located in the San Juan harbor. Local driver Willy Castro won in a Ford Mustang. Must have lost money as the event was not repeated.
Tom
There is video of this event at the following link:
Vince H.
Posted 09 November 2015 - 13:50
In the end, apparently only 12 entries made the grid, including some locals. The results that I have found are as follows, although I suspect that Willem Oosthoeck has more info in his files.:
1. 7 Roger Penske (USA) Zerex Special Climax F1/16/61
2. 4 Tim Mayer (USA) Cooper Monaco T61 Climax ex-Penske
3. 10 Dan Gurney (USA) Porsche 718 WRS 047?
4. - Hap Sharp (USA) Cooper Monaco T61 Climax CM/1/61
5. 39 Ludwig Heimrath (CDN) Porsche 718 RS60
6. - Luis Merino Elva Mk.6
7. 83 Jack Ryan (USA) Porsche 718 RSK
8. 95 Rafael Rosales (PR) Elva Mk.6
9. 99 Herb Swan (USA) Porsche 718 RS61
10. 36 Bob Hurt (USA) Ferrari 250 TR 59 0766TR
11 Chuck Dietrich (USA) Ferrari 250 GT SWB 3327GT
- David Piper (GB Ferrari 250 GTO 3767GT MO79460
Not exactly bursting at the seams with so many international stars that the entry had to be closed to them, and, according to Ash's over the top letter, SCCA entries might just be squeezed in. Ash's plea for entries is both humorous and insulting at the same time.
As far as the "American Indy Car Series" is concerned, I have never heard anything about that most backwater of woebegone series running in P.R., But that is not surprising as nobody ever paid any attention to it.
Tom
Edited by RA Historian, 09 November 2015 - 13:53.
Posted 09 November 2015 - 19:07
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Posted 10 November 2015 - 06:59
Terry, check out the wonderful Revs Inst foto archives, and look under the recent Albert R Bochroch archives. Apart from the fact that these are simply brilliant for their coverage of events, there are some rarities their. Log onto the collection in full, set it to 100 images per page, click on the venues page, click on Antilles circuit, of which I had not heard before, and there you have a raft of racing in Puerto Rica photographs. It is simply marvellous stuff, even just out of general interest, let alone specific cars or drivers.
Incidentally, the opening page on the collection shows a long series of shots of the Penske Zerex Fubar being built plus several racing shots, some in colour. As I said to a well known TNFer recently, after all these years I never realised that that car was red.
I believe. Mr Bochroch was a man of independent means who was able to follow his chosen sport at his leisure, and he benefitted from access to the rich and famous. Classic stuff.
Roger Lund
Edit.
I cannot put up a link on this new setup. Perhaps another TNFer can. Thanks. RL
Here is a link to the Al Bochroch photos from that race:
As for Bill Bowman's Aston Martin, there are some photos. It is light colored, but, I think, an earlier GT than a DB4. The licence number appears to be 6D - 15438...not sure what state.
Vince H.
Edited by raceannouncer2003, 10 November 2015 - 07:04.
Posted 10 November 2015 - 07:07
Hmmm. I can't seem to post that link either.
Here is the link to the home page:
Under photographer, choose Albert R. Bochroch. Then search for Puerto Rico.
Vince H.
Posted 10 November 2015 - 10:54
Rosales' Elva MkVI looks modified beyond recognition by late 1962 - any info about the changes made would be most welcome.
Posted 10 November 2015 - 22:46
Posted 13 November 2015 - 12:32
'American racing: road racing in the 50s and 60s' by Tom Burnside has a section on the 1962 race which contains some great photographs (p.178-191).
Posted 13 November 2015 - 20:47
IndyCar also raced in Puerto Rico...
Well, the American IndyCar Series did. It ran a race called Chrysler Puerto Rico Grand Prix on November 24, 1996. I don't even know who won, and I'm not sure about the location either - possibly a street circuit in San Juan, or perhaps more likely, Salinas Speedway.
AIS ran that event on a street circuit in San Juan. IIRC it was won by JC Carbonell driving for Bill Tempero's team, possibly called Tempero-Guiffre Racing at the time. Not 100% on any race details, so am not certain it was won by Carbonell, but pretty sure it was. It did seem to draw pretty large crowds, with some of the locals telling us how grateful they were to have (any) racing on the island. If I remember correctly (cut me some slack, it was almost 20 years ago) tropical rainstorms played havoc with the event, possibly resulting in a shortened main race. I "think" the support races consisted of local saloon cars, some in SCCA GT1 trim (close to TransAm cars)
E1pix is correct, around this time the AIS cars were mostly ex-CART chassis (from a couple years to about 10 years old) and most had the downforce that had been slowly reduced by CART over the years. Engines were essentially unrestricted (there were some engine rules, mostly with an eye to parity between NA and turbo) with no pop-off valves required. A fair number of ex-Cossie Lola's were converted to run Buick's (and later Buicks badged as Menards). Without the engine restrictions, several of the AIS cars were running power outputs some 100bhp more than what CART was putting out at the time. Target Ganassi "rented" one of Tempero's cars for a commercial shoot for Target which was shot at Sebring with Montoya driving. Again IIRC, this would have been spring of 1997 a few days after the late winter/spring testing. Montoya was almost 5 seconds a lap quicker in the AIS car than he was in the CART chassis of the year. Not surprising given the power advantage and downforce advantage of the older car, but enough of a difference to surprise JP. The tires favored by AIS at the time were pretty much Hoosier Sprint Car tires, so the tires were much quicker than the much harder tires being run by CART at the time. 97-ish - CART might have switched to Firestones by then, don't think they were still running GY, but again I could be wrong.
Posted 13 November 2015 - 21:11
Great analysis.
Personally, I'd love to see someone take this formula and push it hard. It seems like such a winner, Americans love V8s and Formula 5000 is sorely missed. It's been long snubbed by some purists who may or may not have ever seen them run, but fast racing is enjoyable racing to me and they were quite fun to watch — on the short ovals the acceleration was downright amazing.
I also admire Bill Tempero's diligence. He's a good guy, longtime supporter of our sport, and an authentic, down-to-earth enthusiast (and Dad to a longtime friend's wife).
Off-topic, is that a WF1 in your avatar?
Posted 14 November 2015 - 00:32
Posted 14 November 2015 - 14:13
Interesting that the Burnside book also misidentifies the #95 Cooper Monaco of Hap Sharp as Rafi Rosales' Elva Mk 6. Strange, since Sharp's Monaco was very well known as the 1961 Times GP winner at Riverside with Jack Brabham at the wheel.All research: Willem Oosthoek
Yes, that misidentification has been so persistent across the board that I accepted it despite strong initial doubts. Still embarrassed not to identify #95 as Sharp's Cooper Monaco, though, despite looking at photos of the latter only days earlier...
Posted 14 November 2015 - 15:06
" Target Ganassi "rented" one of Tempero's cars for a commercial shoot for Target which was shot at Sebring with Montoya driving. Again IIRC, this would have been spring of 1997 "
Doubt it. Montoya did not join Ganassi until 1999.
Posted 17 November 2015 - 18:02
I also admire Bill Tempero's diligence. He's a good guy, longtime supporter of our sport, and an authentic, down-to-earth enthusiast (and Dad to a longtime friend's wife).
Off-topic, is that a WF1 in your avatar?
At some point in the early 2000's he was recognized by the Speedway for the number of drivers that had come through AIS at some point and gone on to race at the Speedway. Both Laziers, some Unsers, and quite a few others used the "cheap" running costs of AIS to gain high HP experience.
2004 Stohr with Hayabusa motor currently in SCCA P2 trim. Not the fancy tunnels or carbon bodywork of the WF1's. Fun car to drive
Posted 17 November 2015 - 18:03
" Target Ganassi "rented" one of Tempero's cars for a commercial shoot for Target which was shot at Sebring with Montoya driving. Again IIRC, this would have been spring of 1997 "
Doubt it. Montoya did not join Ganassi until 1999.
You are correct, I had the years wrong.
Posted 01 October 2016 - 10:47
Can anybody shed more light on the Formula Junior race in 1962?
Heart Trophy (45 min)
1. Tim Mayer (Cooper)
2. Wm Smith (Cooper)
3. Peter Revson (Cooper
Av speed 74.8 mph
Source: Competition Press, Nov 24, 1962, Page 3
RGDS RLT
Posted 01 October 2016 - 11:00
Posted 01 October 2016 - 11:07
I've been looking at them, but want to provide accurate captions!
Looks like Dietrich in the #34 Elva, also #25 Lola.
RGDS RLT
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Posted 03 October 2016 - 13:33
Plus in the early 1960s there was a different special called the Fubar which ran in the midwest with Chuck Rickert as the occasional driver.
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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:28
Hi, Jerry,
When I worked at/hung around Jaguar Midwest Distributors (as I recall the name) in Indianapolis in the mid to late 1950s there was a Porsche in the back that i assume was the Durlite Special. It was a 550 (as I recall) with everything drilled for lightness (e.g. not just the pedals, but the pedal shafts as well). I don't remember where Webb's shop was located, but perhaps there's some connection with Jack Ensley?
Ensley and a former used car dealer named Pat Murphy were the partners in the dealership/distributorship. I suspect the money was from Murphy and Ensley contributed his name. Ensley had been sort of a mentor to me, and taught me how to drive (on a golf driving range at an amusement park he owned called Little America). I learned on a RHD MG TC with few if any synchros in the gearbox; after that anything else was pretty easy.
There could be a very interesting short biography on Ensley, who was an extremely interesting man. I started to write one quite a few years ago, but never got around to finishing it. Perhaps some day someone will do a magazine article. For example:
Ensley had been a stunt man in the movies Ben Hur and The Ten Commandments, and was a ballroom dancer with Joan Crawford as his partner.
He won the SCCA B-Modified National Championship in 1954, driving a Kurtis-Kraft 500 with a Cadillac engine.
He finished third at Sebring in 1955 in a D-Type Jaguar, co-driving with Bob Sweikert who won the Indy 500 that year.
He was the oldest rookie ever to attempt to qualify for the Indy 500 (although he'd knocked a couple of years off his real age, which was always sort of a mystery anyway).
From a Donald Davidson story on the Indy Roadster Ensley had tried to qualify: at one point Ensley owned a nightclub, where he employed two ex-wives, his current wife, and his current girlfriend . . . all at the same time.
Ah, memory lane. They really don't make 'em like they used to . . . .
David
Edited by Cynic2, 04 October 2016 - 01:30.
Posted 04 October 2016 - 13:08
Tom,We have not been able to find Chuck Rickert racing any Fubar Special around the Midwest in the early sixties.
I did not think that I was going batty. I checked my Road America entry lists from that era and found this for the 1962 Road America 500:
Car No.: 0
Entrant: Chuck Rickert, Indianapolis, Indiana
Drivers: Chuck Rickert, Bill Kirtley
Car: Fubar Porsche Special
Class: FM
In the race they were a DNF
Posted 04 October 2016 - 14:12
Staying O/T ref post #43 by Cynic 2:
Did you ever come across Hubert (Hugh) McPhail, who also raced a Kurtis sports car out of Buffalo, NY?
I seem to recall some connection to Jack Ensley - McPhail was a pilot, aluminum basher, who owned many different cars including Kurtis, Jaguar, Elva and an A.C. Ace with a Chevrolet engine.
RGDS RLT
Posted 05 October 2016 - 00:16
Edited by Jerry Entin, 05 October 2016 - 00:18.
Posted 07 October 2016 - 15:31
Staying O/T ref post #43 by Cynic 2:
Did you ever come across Hubert (Hugh) McPhail, who also raced a Kurtis sports car out of Buffalo, NY?
I seem to recall some connection to Jack Ensley - McPhail was a pilot, aluminum basher, who owned many different cars including Kurtis, Jaguar, Elva and an A.C. Ace with a Chevrolet engine.
RGDS RLT
I haven't had time to go through my old files (as they're laughingly called), but somewhere I have an unpublished and incomplete listing of Kurtis 500S and SX owners. (There was also a 500M, a road car although a very few were raced, and a 500 KK, a chassis kit only, usually finished with a commercial Fiberglas body of some sort.)
The name "Hugh McPhail" does sound familiar, although I cannot place it. Let me try to excavate my old Kurtis material.
Jerry Entin (for Willem Oosthoek) is someone who might possibly know about McPhail.
David