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[Gilles4Ever]

McLaren MP4X 

http://www.mclaren.c...m_campaign=MP4X

 

[OO7]

Nice!  But I think the Red Bull Newey design looked better (The more curved podded front wheels that is).

Edited by OO7, 03 December 2015 - 07:42.

[RedBaron]

Looks fast.

 

That's the best concept yet. It looks immense. Better than Ferrari's and Red Bull's X1.

 

I wonder if the Honda engine in it would be as equally spectacular...

Edited by RedBaron, 03 December 2015 - 08:07.

[RedBaron]

McLaren's mp4x looks lower, sleeker and more aggressive than the X1.

 

Edited by RedBaron, 03 December 2015 - 07:45.

[OO7]

McLaren's mp4x looks lower, sleeker and more aggressive than the X1.

 

  I agree.  Having just seen the comparison the McLaren looks much better overall.  However I still prefer the smooth contours of the the RB's podded front wheels.

[Donka]

McLaren's mp4x looks lower, sleeker and more aggressive than the X1.

Surely you're ribbing us.

Thing looks hideous, and it's just another also ran. Newey had the original concept and years before these copycat "concept" renderings

[OO7]

I was thinking that safe driver extraction by the medical services would be very difficult.  Having said that, how do the medical services extract drivers from closed cockpit LMP cars?

[JeePee]

No rake. Looks slow.

[ViMaMo]

I was thinking that safe driver extraction by the medical services would be very difficult. Having said that, how do the medical services extract drivers from closed cockpit LMP cars?

An aero dynamic door handle on the outside?

[OO7]

An aero dynamic door handle on the outside?

Yes, but how do they extract the driver safely?  In F1 they can attach a neck brace and remove the driver (upwards) while s/he remains seated, thus securing their whole body (feet and legs excluded). 

[RedBaron]

Surely you're ribbing us.

Thing looks hideous, and it's just another also ran. Newey had the original concept and years before these copycat "concept" renderings

 

 

He was the first to do it, yes... but Newey didn't create anything revolutionary though.

 

He just did the obvious. Got an F1 car and enclosed the wheels and added a cockpit. Apart from that it's pretty much an F1 car, the obvious evolution of an F1 car. 

 

I am sure if you asked any aerodynamicist if they could do 1 thing to an F1 car without restriction it would be enclose the wheels. Newey certainly didn't come up with the idea.

 

The McLaren MP4X looks like a race car, the X1 looks like a gimmick.

Edited by RedBaron, 03 December 2015 - 08:13.

[RedBaron]

Yes, but how do they extract the driver safely?  In F1 they can attach a neck brace and remove the driver (upwards) while s/he remains seated, thus securing their whole body (feet and legs excluded). 

 

I assume if there were enclosed cockpits there'd be release mechanisms to remove the 'lid' entirely, exposing the cockpit as it is today.

 

Edit: Actually there's bodywork above the driver's head, I missed that. Good question then...

Edited by RedBaron, 03 December 2015 - 08:20.

[Maustinsj]

Maybe explosive bolts to fire the canopy into the sky.

It would certainly improve "the show"!

[V8 Fireworks]

McLaren MP4X 

http://www.mclaren.c...m_campaign=MP4X

 

 

Dallara indycar concept:

 

 

 

Either way -- yuck!!

[Felix]

First Q is: exactly who will pay for McLaren's car? See no stickers of substance; at least Newey's car has backing. Clearly the car was designed in the past and has no future: about the only sponsor of substance is Johnnie Walker, which is, er, walking soon.

Edited by Felix, 03 December 2015 - 08:22.

[Maustinsj]

Read the bumph on their website. It all becomes clear.

[OO7]

Maybe explosive bolts to fire the canopy into the sky.

It would certainly improve "the show"!

McLaren sponsored by Martin-Baker

[muramasa]

i think they still need roll hoop. it looks like the roof is almost touching driver's helmet and doesnt look like it's strong enough to withstand impact.

 

nice livery overall but I still dont like that mcswoosh in the middle of the nose, it just looks out of place. I hope they will ditch that thing for mp4-31.

[Nonesuch]

While it looks decent and the canopy is one of the more interesting implementations yet, the front wheel arrangement looks a bit silly - on the Red Bull as well.

 

Why bother keeping up the open-wheel façade? Just make a light sportscar like the unofficial concept by Mark Hostler:

 

[Wingcommander]

So is this just a 3d model or something more relevant? Anyone can draw a fancy concept car. 

[Owen]

So is this just a 3d model or something more relevant? Anyone can draw a fancy concept car. 

There is a bit more to it than that if you read the article http://www.mclaren.c.../mclaren-mp4-x/

[OO7]

So is this just a 3d model or something more relevant? Anyone can draw a fancy concept car. 

Unlike the Red Bull concept, the McLaren MP4X isn't really relevant.  It is based on many technologies that aren't available yet or are currently in their infancy.  One of the descriptions for instance (in this case the canopy) mentions the need for easy cockpit access in case the car has rolled over, yet the design shown looks anything but.

Edited by OO7, 03 December 2015 - 09:17.

[RedBaron]

Unlike the Red Bull concept, the McLaren MP4X isn't really relevant.  It is based on many technologies that aren't available yet or are currently in their infancy.

 

That's a concept. Almost every concept car has those qualities.

Edited by RedBaron, 03 December 2015 - 09:22.

[OO7]

That's a concept. Almost every concept car has those qualities.

May be I should try one with a flux capacitor.

 

In all fairness, given the technology they plan to utilise I'm not sure the concept is that impressive.

[7MGTEsup]

May be I should try one with a flux capacitor.

 

 

Doc Brown first thought up the flux capacitor in 1955 so it's hardly new technology.

[superden]

Wow, that's hideous.

[NoSanityClause]

Looks  like an anorexic batmobile.

Edited by NoSanityClause, 03 December 2015 - 10:02.

[RedBaron]

I cannot begin to see what people don't like about this concept visually.

 

This is clearly a Marmite thing.

[MortenF1]

I would move the rear axle forwards by 40cm to make the car look more right

[Lotus53B]

My initial reaction was ugh, yuck, looks really, really horrid.

But that's what I say most years in February after new aero/body regs come into force, and by June/July I'm looking back at my archive vids and going "wtf were they thinking..."

 

For me though, it's not open wheel.  We already have LMP and other similar formulae.

 

Edit:  I've been trying to find images of a pranged LMP that lost its external bodywork, because when I saw it my initial reactions "hell...that's just a fat F1 car"

Edited by Lotus53B, 03 December 2015 - 10:29.

[Jerem]

The roof/windshield part looks nice.

The front looks ridiculous.

The rear - meh.

[SimeonSasparella]

How would you like your driver, medium, rare...?

[RainyAfterlifeDaylight]

except very artificial tire caps, the rest of the car especially canopy are spot on.

 

I hope to see canopies as soon as 2017.

Edited by RYARLE, 03 December 2015 - 10:53.

[chunder27]

Oh dear, seems a few uni graduates have been on the johnnie Walker

 

Didnt Sony pay Red bull to do this a decade or so ago for Gran Turismo?

 

Been there, done that.

[Nonesuch]

Edit:  I've been trying to find images of a pranged LMP that lost its external bodywork, because when I saw it my initial reactions "hell...that's just a fat F1 car"

 

Something like this?

 

[YoungGun]

artsy-fartsy.

[Hyatt]

what was all this concept stuff good for again?

[SophieB]

 

Looks kind of like it's been front wheel clamped.

[Imateria]

I like it. One of the few instances of a concept car that looks like it could actually work, most really don't.

[Wingcommander]

There is a bit more to it than that if you read the article http://www.mclaren.c.../mclaren-mp4-x/

 

Yes I read it but I couldn't find anything concrete. Maybe it's the RonSpeak. 

[ButtonForEver]

They put on the car the right number.   

[discover23]

This team is a joke. They come up with this and blast it all over the media to try and divert the attention from the humuliating season they just had.

Is a nice looking car though.

Edited by discover23, 03 December 2015 - 12:23.

[Pete_f1]

How would you legislate for such a clean F1 car?

[Lotus53B]

Something like this?

 

Yep

[byrkus]

I thought it was a concept for a driverless Electric Formula car.

[Ellios]

Something like this?

 

 

Phat ! Sticky front tyres !

 

Thanks for sharing

[mp4x]

Oh nooooo! I've been discovered. Since now it's a known fact that I'm from future I'd be glad to answer all of your questions. 

[Donkey]

Looks mean. Only bit I don't like is the rear wheel arches from the side view, looks like they have been put on back to front.

 

I like the RBR concept too but the nose looks too flimsy for my tastes (although that was imagined when the high noses were still allowed in F1).

[maximilian]

Oh nooooo! I've been discovered. Since now it's a known fact that I'm from future I'd be glad to answer all of your questions. 

 

Can I get some lottery numbers, please?

[discover23]

RedBull just tweeted this:

@redbullmotors: Hey @McLarenF1, you're five years too late 😉 #X2010 https://t.co/tD5VMB9NuC