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#51 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 23:15

Great to see all these old photo,s, this got me thinking are there any old photos of the many flag points & the many people that stood out in the sun, rain & wind so those with money could go racing?

Dan hi, Will look for some and crop them for you...

 

Who said we had money.  We raced on a well below budget and raced for tea towels as they said in those days. :well:



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#52 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 00:01

No sheep stations?

No need to crop them, really.

#53 seldo

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 00:29

I think that's Lance Needs in the background...

The car's definitely a Buckle and it's turning into the Causeway with the Homestead in the background.

He was a bit thinner at that stage....But then again, weren't we all...?

#54 seldo

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 00:33

Dan hi, Will look for some and crop them for you...
 
Who said we had money.  We raced on a well below budget and raced for tea towels as they said in those days. :well:

I lived at home and spent every cent I earned on feeding the addiction...At one stage, apart from my full-time 6-day-a-week job, I also cleaned offices at night and pumped gas on weekend nights...No smokes, no girls, no booze....well, very little booze...

#55 GMACKIE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 00:45

As a panel-beater, I had plenty of weekend work. Only one car - everyday and race car. S/H tyres @ 30 bob each...etc. And we didn't run into each other!



#56 brucemoxon

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 01:16

I know it's contemporary, but I rather like this one I got at the Bathurst 12 Hour this year...

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#57 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 02:34

He was a bit thinner at that stage....But then again, weren't we all...?

David hi,  Do you know who is in this Buckle...  He was never thin.



#58 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 02:36

I lived at home and spent every cent I earned on feeding the addiction...At one stage, apart from my full-time 6-day-a-week job, I also cleaned offices at night and pumped gas on weekend nights...No smokes, no girls, no booze....well, very little booze...

And thats why your a multi millionaire now.  Working all of those jobs,   Yeh right with the last three.


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#59 seldo

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 02:58

David hi,  Do you know who is in this Buckle...  He was never thin.

...Hmmm....I'd have a guess that his name is Bob Somethingorother....

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#60 seldo

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 03:00

And thats why your a multi millionaire now.

Huh! In your dreams, or more correctly, in My dreams...

#61 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 03:21

Here is some of the flag marshals... Anyone recognise them.

 

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#62 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 03:25

...Hmmm....I'd have a guess that his name is Bob Somethingorother....

Bob Booth in the ex Barry Topen tangerine Buckle....   I need a good photo of them for my website.(Booth & Topen)


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#63 lyntonh

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 07:01

Here is some of the flag marshals... Anyone recognise them.

 

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I don't recognize the marshals, but I thought.....that looks similar to a shot I took,

I'll look mine up & post it to see how close we were standing when we took the photos.

 

Turns out, the other bloke had crawled into my body....it's my shot!!!!

 

I posted it on here around 2011. Been around the interweb for a few years, & now it's come home to daddy!!

 

Good photo if I do say so. Here's the original.

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#64 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:01

I don't recognize the marshals, but I thought.....that looks similar to a shot I took,

I'll look mine up & post it to see how close we were standing when we took the photos.

 

Turns out, the other bloke had crawled into my body....it's my shot!!!!

 

I posted it on here around 2011. Been around the interweb for a few years, & now it's come home to daddy!!

 

Good photo if I do say so. Here's the original.

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Hi,  I did not know who took this photo. I saved it from a site on the web, only because I knew Jim Seeto back in the late 60s.  Great shot Lynton 



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Posted 15 March 2016 - 09:02

[quote name="BUCKLECOUPE" post="7464107" timestamp="1458012099"]

Here is some of the flag marshals... Anyone recognise them.

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Well bugger me, there I am doing my Fire Marshell/Cars past our point Observer job at the exit of CC Tyers corner, I am the one in white overalls face on to camera, about 19 years of age, so many years ago, thanks.

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 09:23

Hi,  I did not know who took this photo. I saved it from a site on the web, only because I knew Jim Seeto back in the late 60s.  Great shot Lynton 

I've become quite philosophical about my photos reappearing.

 

If they don't come back, they might be not that good!!

 

Besides, I post these things so that it gets people talking about what we're all interested in.

 

It's revealing to do a Google search for a particular driver's name, and see on the images search result just

how many of your photos appear. It's also of note how well you recognize your own stuff in among all the others.



#67 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 20:23

Wednesday pic is from Bathurst. Easter 1963

 

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 20:35

[quote name="BUCKLECOUPE" post="7464107" timestamp="1458012099"]

Here is some of the flag marshals... Anyone recognise them.

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Well bugger me, there I am doing my Fire Marshell/Cars past our point Observer job at the exit of CC Tyers corner, I am the one in white overalls face on to camera, about 19 years of age, so many years ago, thanks.

That's Brian Barby's Holden-engined Anglia you are watching.



#69 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 20:42

Dan hi, Will look for some and crop them for you...

 

Who said we had money.  We raced on a well below budget and raced for tea towels as they said in those days. :well:

Far later than that we raced for a bag of oranges!



#70 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 00:35

I have a few photos from Castlereagh drag (CAMS days)  with Append. J cars, etc  similar to this one.

Do you want to see this type of racing here.    :clap: Can anyone tell me car and drivers name.

LH side there is a white XKSS Jag, By memory the guy who was one of the original Amaroo Club guys owned it.??  :clap:  I just remembered his name  Geoff Brakell

 

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#71 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:08

It is all motorsport history. 1/4 mile sprints [as they were] road racing, dirt oval, hillclimbs and motorkhanas dirt sprints, mud sprints are all a part of our history.

I have done all of them at various times as well as organised drag racing. As have a lot of others too.



#72 GMACKIE

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:13

Is that one of the 'Gold Cigars' ?

 

CAMS, in their wisdom, decided there would be no drag racing here. :|

 

Only sprints, with one car at a time, were permitted. That was when the Hot-Rod Association took on CAMS, and ran drag races anyway.



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:51

 

 

CAMS, in their wisdom,

 

 

A phrase frequently seen. Rarely seen un-ironically.

 

 

BM



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:10

Far later than that we raced for a bag of oranges!

 

Your memory going Lee?  Or maybe mine!  I thought it was a bag of apples!  From an apple grower in the hills.  Doig tried very hard to win those - to feed his horses.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:15

If by chance Bob's latest is from the August 1960 Castlereagh 'NSW Sprint Championships' then 123 is John Bruderlin MG.

 

And yes, please post more.

 

Stephen



#76 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:29

If by chance Bob's latest is from the August 1960 Castlereagh 'NSW Sprint Championships' then 123 is John Bruderlin MG.

 

And yes, please post more.

 

Stephen

Stephen hi,  I was talking to John Bruderlin yesterday asking if he wanted to come to Bill Buckle's 90th Luncheon, of coarse he said yes.  If any of you guys who knows Bill and wants to come to the luncheon 30/7/16, contact me thru the Buckle website.    Will send the photo to JB and ask him to confirm it is he. Bob



#77 GMACKIE

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:31

Yep, the Bruderlin MG was a 'Gold Cigar'.



#78 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 13:25

And yep, it looks very much like John driving...

You can tell him I don't think he's changed a bit!

#79 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 19:54

Thursday pic from Oran Park 9/9/62

 

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#80 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 22:33

Your memory going Lee?  Or maybe mine!  I thought it was a bag of apples!  From an apple grower in the hills.  Doig tried very hard to win those - to feed his horses.

You may be right,, and yes my memory is going!

I know that the ones I won I handed to someone else immediatly. It may have been Doig,, to feed his wifes horses.



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 22:35

Thursday pic from Oran Park 9/9/62

 

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That is a picture of someone working very hard! In a car that is not working!



#82 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 22:41

He was still there two and a half years later...

George Murray in his Bill Warren Austin Spares-entered Austin 7 Special. By the time this pic was taken it had a large-ish A-series engine on board...

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Different corner, of course, one which didn't exist at the time of the monochrome photo. While we're there, let's see how John Evans is doing holding off Doug Chivas...

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Unfortunately a lot of my slides are in poor condition.

I should add, as Greg would confirm, that George was President of the Singer Car Club, which morphed into the NSW Road Racing Club and which operated the Oran Park ciruit.


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#83 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 07:56

Originally posted by ed holly
Guys, 
 
I asked on the 901 Register about this car and the replies can be seen at
 
http://www.typ901.or...read.php?t=6724
 
Many thanks to Hugh there ...


I spoke to Alan about this the other day...

When the 2.2-litre models were allowed to join the Touring Car ranks in Australia, just two cars were available in the country. One was a new one, which Jim McKeown bought, the other had a different history.

A friend of Alan's had won Tattslotto and was able to buy a Porsche. Alan felt it was a bad move for him, that he should use the money to get himself a house and stabilise his life a bit.

Then Lowe's phoned Alan and told him this bloke was enquiring about a new Dino Ferrari. Alan relented and ordered especially for him the most expensive 911 to come to Australia to that time, among its extras being an electric sunroof.

It didn't last long and he realised he had bitten off more than he could chew and back-traded, so Alan had this car to sell to Foles.

The sunroof had to go, so an aluminium panel was rivetted in place and made look good. It still has this today.

Alan has no idea about the 911R script on the back. He did fit the engine from the Spyder and run it as a Sports Sedan. But he says that has nothing to do with the '911R' on the back.

The patched sunroof hole is a permanent marker of which car this one is...

#84 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 20:06

Friday pic from Bathurst. Easter 1963

 

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 20:51

MG Special...

I've never seen that one, I'm sure. Entered by J. (John?) Evans and K. (Kevin?) Salmon, it looks to be TD or TF based.

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Posted 18 March 2016 - 03:54

Saturdays photos early.   Set of 3 photos from Catalina Lemans start.

 

 

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:clap: Foley's Sprite (you can see his helmet on top of the roof of the Buckle) then a Morgan, Lawler's Buckle followed by MGAs and Sprites... 2nd photo showing, the Morgan has jumped out first and the Turner not so quick off the mark.


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#87 ellrosso

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Posted 18 March 2016 - 04:13

Great shots Bob. Also interesting info re the Porsche 911's Ray - and also that Alan had no idea re the 911R script. Maybe happened in Jim Palmer's ownership....



#88 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 March 2016 - 10:56

No problem, I had another excuse to phone him anyway. He was actually in the middle of a 3-week stint in hospital...

And it looks like Frenchy is a bit slow on his feet in that last pic.

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 00:40

Bob's Catalina Park Le Mans start photos will be the ill-fated Event 2. The photographer of this sequence appears to be standing behind Tom Rich's TR3a, as can be seen in Bruce Wells colour photo here

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#90 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 10:28

Well spotted, Stephen...

I note that there are two Le Mans starts on that page, one in the dry and one in the wet, which is the one in which Rich died. And there's a photo there of his fatal crash.

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 21:00

Sundays pic from Catalina. Date unknown

 

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 21:36

Catalina 19-5-63.. Sad day in Australian Motor racing as we lost a young race driver.  Not sure if this was the 1st or 2nd Le Mans start race that day.  Was it raining am or pm. As you can see it was raining when he crashed.  If you look at Bruce Wells 2 photos of both races, the flags have disappeared from the flag poles behind the race cars.

 

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#93 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 21:40

It was in the earlier of the two races...

The crash had occurred just before I got to the circuit, and I wasn't very late. Race two, I would think, out of the day's programme.

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 22:48

Sundays pic from Catalina. Date unknown

 

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Now there is the ultimate race car,,, a Mk1 Consul. With a bonnet scoop to feed the 1500? 

I guess they did not break as many axles as a Zephyr but still roll over just as often.



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Posted 19 March 2016 - 23:06

Interesting that the LeMans start is from the outside/perimeter side of the circuit and not from the inside (pits) side

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 00:16

Probably because the left side wasn't sealed to the fence but the RHS was.

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 00:31

The Rich accident was Event 2, as discussed back on page 201 of the old thread - refer post 10029 on - after Bob posted the Foley Sprite photo..

http://forums.autosp...to-70s/page-201

 

The Bruce Wells photo for the ill-fated Le Mans start meeting relates to the one shown in post 7 of the trs thread.

 

The dry Le Mans sports car race in Post 6 of the trs thread is quite possibly the March 1962 Catalina meeting event 10. I'm basing this on the #64 Healey being Pedro Owen's and the #48 MGA being the Aitken/Caddy entry.

 

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 00:36

I had a 'Le Mans' start on that same day [19/5/63], although we started from the pits side...not like the above photos.

 

For some reason - I think it was because it was thought that we wouldn't do up our seat-belts - we used a 'runner' to deliver the ignition key, from the other side of the track. The drivers were belted up, ready to start, when handed their key.



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Posted 20 March 2016 - 01:21

 

Posted Yesterday, 22:48

BUCKLECOUPE, on 20 Mar 2016 - 08:00, said:snapback.png

Sundays pic from Catalina. Date unknown

 

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Now there is the ultimate race car,,, a Mk1 Consul. With a bonnet scoop to feed the 1500? 

I guess they did not break as many axles as a Zephyr but still roll over just as often.

 

 

That Zephyr or Consul is Appendix K , I wouldn't be surprised if if was V8 powered .



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Posted 20 March 2016 - 02:12

Now there is the ultimate race car,,, a Mk1 Consul. With a bonnet scoop to feed the 1500? 
I guess they did not break as many axles as a Zephyr but still roll over just as often.
 
 
That Zephyr or Consul is AppendiAs soon as they put the bonnet-scoop onx K , I wouldn't be surprised if if was V8 powered .

It became App J immediately they put the bonnet-scoop on...  ;)

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