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#1 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 16:55

As above.....

All these daft ideas qualifying for example....

We just hear an idea is proposed but not by whom.

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#2 nosecone

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 16:59

For the Qualifying i heard it was suggested by Whiting. But take that with a pinch of salt.

 

For the 2017 rules:

 

-technical working group

-Red Bull made a proposal

-McLaren made a proposal

-tech directors are meeting regularly to decide what the 2017rules will be



#3 Marklar

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 17:00

The same people who are saying later that the idea is stupid. Thats the cycle of life...

Edited by Marklar, 25 March 2016 - 17:03.


#4 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 18:09

For the Qualifying i heard it was suggested by Whiting. But take that with a pinch of salt.

 

For the 2017 rules:

 

-technical working group

-Red Bull made a proposal

-McLaren made a proposal

-tech directors are meeting regularly to decide what the 2017rules will be

Seriously? Let him focus on switching the button for the lights to go green and nothing more please. He knows nothing about how F1 should be.



#5 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 18:13

I guess a test and focus group.

 

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#6 Archer

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 18:15

I suspect that maybe in order to reach a younger audience, theyv'e been doing a survey to kindergarten children. They are choosing the most popular measures.



#7 byrkus

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 18:51

It's not the problem, who comes with the idea. Problem is, who confirms it.



#8 pdac

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 18:57

Bernie comes up with the most stupid ones and then the others follow when people try to compromise.



#9 shonguiz

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 18:58

Toto said the guy selling tickets asked for the Q change. Then BE proposed a reversed grill system to which the teams said no no and proposed the current format instead.


Edited by shonguiz, 25 March 2016 - 19:08.


#10 LeClerc

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 19:00

Sorry. Was my idea. 

 

In my defence, I was drunk at the time.



#11 ANF

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 19:19

Seriously? Let him focus on switching the button for the lights to go green and nothing more please. He knows nothing about how F1 should be.

"Nelson Piquet in the Brabham-BMW cockpit, surrounded by chief mechanic Charlie Whiting, Brabham team boss Bernie Ecclestone and the car's designer Gordon Murray, United States West Grand Prix, Long-Beach 1983, Long Beach, United States, 27 March 1983." :)

#12 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 19:25

you always hear "they" but "they" never seem to have a name



#13 johnmhinds

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 19:34

Toto said the guy selling tickets asked for the Q change. Then BE proposed a reversed grill system to which the teams said no no and proposed the current format instead.

 

Toto said the promoters wanted a change, which is him saying Bernie and FOM wanted to change it.

 

He didn't mean the race track owners wanted any changes.



#14 Marklar

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 19:39

Niki said race promoters IIRC.



#15 Risil

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 19:48

 

Now if Gordon Murray had been in charge of F1's technical regulations, that would've been interesting.



#16 Jon83

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 19:51

Coming up with the idea doesn't really matter though. Those that vote it through (Claire Williams, Bob Fernley) are the ones ultimately responsible and are the ones who should be holding their hands up and accepting they got it terribly wrong. Only Christian Horner has so far had the balls to do so. 



#17 pdac

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 20:09

Sorry. Was my idea. 

 

In my defence, I was drunk at the time.

 

Ah, it was you, LeClerc



#18 ensign14

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 20:13

When someone comes up with a stupid idea, it either comes from accountants or from management.



#19 pdac

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 20:14

Coming up with the idea doesn't really matter though. Those that vote it through (Claire Williams, Bob Fernley) are the ones ultimately responsible and are the ones who should be holding their hands up and accepting they got it terribly wrong. Only Christian Horner has so far had the balls to do so. 

 

Ah, but from THEIR perspective, did they get it wrong? Arguably, the new format is terrible for the people watching, but may be quite good for midfield team bosses



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#20 jonpollak

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 21:55

When someone comes up with a stupid idea, it either comes from accountants or from management.

 


. Yep, that's the way it works in my world as well.

#21 Rob

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 22:00

As above.....

All these daft ideas qualifying for example....

We just hear an idea is proposed but not by whom.

 

I suspect it might be these guys

 

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#22 pdac

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 22:07

. Yep, that's the way it works in my world as well.

 

Everyone's world

 

Edit

Actually, you can add politicians to that list as well


Edited by pdac, 25 March 2016 - 22:08.


#23 Jon83

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 22:09

Ah, but from THEIR perspective, did they get it wrong? Arguably, the new format is terrible for the people watching, but may be quite good for midfield team bosses

 

I don't think it did anything to shake up the grid and give these teams much of an opportunity. They still scored pretty much the amount of points I'd have guessed they would. 

 

I don't really get Claire Williams anyway, but even by her standards, her stance is bizarre. 



#24 Dolph

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 22:12

Toto said the promoters wanted a change, which is him saying Bernie and FOM wanted to change it.

 

He didn't mean the race track owners wanted any changes.

 

Well, somebody said that the guys selling tickets for Saturday needed a change.
 



#25 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 22:26

So? He and his dusty FIA friends have managed to make F1 into nothing in just a few years. This quote doesn't mean anything, chief mechanic, wow.  :rolleyes:



#26 Jejking

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 14:40

So basically everybody is pointing at each other? How unexpected, that lunacy.



#27 Knowlesy

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 15:36

When someone comes up with a stupid idea, it either comes from accountants or from management.


This.

#28 ExFlagMan

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:53

Well, somebody said that the guys selling tickets for Saturday needed a change.
 

If so then I guess that the change they came up with will probably achieve that - unfortunately for the ticket sellers it looks like the result will not be quite what they wanted.

Would you pay money to see a qualifying session like Australia?



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Posted 27 March 2016 - 09:09



All these daft ideas qualifying for example....

 

Eric Boullier (McLaren) said: "The team managers clearly spotted the fact that Q3 would not work, but we are not the governing body."

 

The FIA Sporting Commission for Formula One is headed by the FIA race director: Charlie Whiting.