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#1 Victor_RO

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 16:50

Hello race fans. On a packed weekend for motorsport in general, i's time for the fastest sportscars in the world to hit the track in race trim once again.  :clap:  The World Endurance Championship is back in action at Silverstone, with the European Le Mans Series and the Porsche Carrera Cup GB as support acts.

 

Now, where were we?

 

Ah yes, LMP1, 2nd/3rd/4th-fastest non-oval circuit racing cars on the planet (depending on who you ask).

 

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Porsche enter 2016 having had a slightly bloodied nose in the first two races of last year, only to disproportionately retaliate and wipe the floor with the opposition for the rest of the season, including the biggest prize of all at Le Mans (won by the car many people thought shouldn't win). Audi won those first two races, but Porsche's second half of the season pushed them into developing a radical new car for 2016 which has been beset by some issues in testing and doesn't seem to be where the team want it. Porsche have developed their 919 from last year to the nth degree and have the advantage of continuity.

 

Toyota - well, they got the bloodiest nose of all, from champions in 2014 to two podiums last year. They'll be smarting. And they've went away, rethought everything and have built a straight line rocketship that's almost as fast as the Porsche over a lap. Surely their target has to be winning Le Mans at any cost this year. All three cars now run battery-based hybrid systems, Porsche and Toyota in the top 8 MJ class, Audi in 6 MJ (the theoretical maximum for diesel cars under current hybrid + weight regulations). If Ricard is to be trusted, Porsche are still ahead, Toyota have caught up a huge amount, Audi still need to do some work.

 

As for the privateers, it's going to be Rebellion vs Kolles for 2016 once again, while the ACO is furiously brainstorming (oh no, wait, I meant the other extreme) solutions to keep the privateer LMP1 dream a viability in case the manufacturers bail out.

 

LMP2 - well, apart from all the cars in the field having Nissan engines, it's anyone's guess. It'll all come down to whoever makes the least mistakes and has the fastest Silver driver.

 

GTE-Pro - slightly new regulations. Ferrari bring out the 488 and snuff out the glorious wail of the 458 with two turbochargers, Porsche take a step back and support only a semi-factory effort with Proton Competition (now when did we hear this before? :D), Aston Martin have a new car that's gone back to British Racing Green with an awkwardly-positioned diffuser, and... well... there's Ford. The Blue Oval takes on the WEC on the 50th anniversary of the first GT40 victory at Le Mans.

 

GTE-Am - the class most people will overlook, but still a class I'll be watching because one of my favorite part-time racing drivers is racing in it this year (a certain well-known programmer called D Heinemeier Hansson). And a full-season Corvette C7.R entry. Come on, who can resist the sound of that V8?

 

45 cars in the ELMS 4-hour race, including some interesting entries with some well-known talent, and the boom in LMP3 realized with over 20 entries in that class alone (!!!!). 

 

Of course, being Silverstone, it's likely to be cold and/or wet and/or blustery and/or sunny and/or ANYTHING. So, if you're at the track this weekend, wrap up warm, grab a raincoat but also consider the possibility of sunlight. :D

 

And before the track action starts again, let's remember some of the brilliant action last year:

 

 

 

WEEKEND SCHEDULE (All times BST): http://www.fiawec.co...ce-program.html

 

 

WEC Entry List: http://www.fiawec.co...entry-list.html

 

ELMS Entry List: http://www.europeanl...e=112&year=2016

 

 

Live streaming should be available (for a fee) in the WEC app, with the replay available for the next 3 weeks (allegedly) after the race, with messrs Hindy and Goodwin calling the shots as ever. Radio Le Mans commentary will also be available online and (allegedly) on 87.7 FM at the track. Also, check your EPGs for details on whether you can watch the race anywhere else (keep an eye on Motors + Eurosport + BT Sport in the UK).



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#2 FLB

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 18:27

The ELMS race is mightily interesting to me. I want to see how quickly Frederic Sausset can go compared to Christophe Tinseau and Jean-Bernard Bouvet. He's been amputated both arms and legs.

 

Will the Audis have problems? Testing has apparently not gone well for them, reliability-wise. The drivers love the car, but it can't go the distance without problems.


Edited by FLB, 11 April 2016 - 18:28.


#3 Victor_RO

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 18:32

The ELMS race is mightily interesting to me. I want to see how quickly Frederic Sausset can go compared to Christophe Tinseau and Jean-Bernard Bouvet. He's been amputated both arms and legs.

 

Good point, I completely forgot they're entered for Silverstone ELMS, they're also the Garage 56 entry at Le Mans. It's going to be interesting perhaps to see what changes they had to make to the car to accommodate two able-bodied drivers and a quad-amputee, should make for some interesting tech that might trickle down to cars for disabled drivers on the road. :)



#4 Peat

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 18:41

I tested my raincoat/trouser combo today. I'm ready!



#5 SpartanChas

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 19:13

Can't wait, my first time seeing these sportscar prototypes in action live. 



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Posted 11 April 2016 - 19:37

Totally predictable question from me...

 

Would Christina Nielsen be in any of the AF Corse cars?

 

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#7 Victor_RO

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 19:47

Totally predictable question from me...

 

Would Christina Nielsen be in any of the AF Corse cars?

 

Jp

 

 

Yes, in the ELMS race, in a 458 GT2 entered under the Formula Racing banner (and Danish flag) but still run by AF Corse. And in terms of other female drivers, Ines Taittinger is also in the ELMS race in the Pegasus Racing LMP2 Morgan.



#8 LongTooth

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 19:59

ELMS is live on BT Sport, but WEC is not. Some thought BT had got WEC for 2016, the EPG suggests this is not the case.



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Posted 11 April 2016 - 20:30

Totally predictable question from me...

Would Christina Nielsen be in any of the AF Corse cars?

Jp


So long as the cheque clears ;)

#10 Mat13

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 21:09

This is more exciting than the F1 this weekend

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 21:23

checks to see if she's there on merit..........

 

 

EDIT:

So long as the cheque clears ;)

She's actually there on merit ASSHOLE !!!

 

I think you may want to focus your misogynistic derision at the heiress to the champagne fortune mentioned by Victor.

Who BTW looks a bit like Julia Louis-Dreyfus  :love:

 

Jp


Edited by jonpollak, 11 April 2016 - 21:25.


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Posted 11 April 2016 - 21:57

Toyota will run with quite a low DF bodtkit for Silverstone, while Porsche are going for max DF. Hopefully we will get the same passing 2-3 times per lap action we got last year 



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Posted 11 April 2016 - 22:12

So long as the cheque clears ;)

Is Tomas Enge racing this weekend?



#14 thegamer23

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 22:49

Can't wait, LMP2 looking good as well with some fast drivers addictions.

I love endurance races, that's pure motorsport.

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 23:36

Looks like in the US the beginning of the race will be on FS1 from 7am EST until 9am and then switch to FS2 until 1:00pm.



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Posted 11 April 2016 - 23:50

I got no interest in this. It's sad how many pay drivers they've invited just to make up the numbers. The prototypes make me want to claw my eyes out as well. Just horrificly ugly vehicles.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:22

I got no interest in this. It's sad how many pay drivers they've invited just to make up the numbers. The prototypes make me want to claw my eyes out as well. Just horrificly ugly vehicles.


I'm sorry, that's a load of BS. Funded drivers have been a cornerstone of sportscar racing since the beginning. People who had money to buy a sportscar, hire some mechanics to run it and a driver or two to co-drive with them have been around for decades. Just go back and look through entrants in lower classes at Le Mans over the years. Have you heard of 95% of those guys? No, neither have I, neither have many people. But it's because of those people that sportscar racing survives. Sportscar racing has almost never been an all-pro sport, and when anyone attempted to turn it into one, it was nearly wiped out (see the end of Group C and the 3.5 liter protos).

And the argument I've been using on this for a while: if we had the money and a bit of talent, we'd all be trying this, wouldn't we? I know I would, no matter how many people would object to pay drivers.



#18 Mat13

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 09:04

On an F1 forum, moaning about WEC paydrivers and ugly cars... oh, the irony.



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 09:12

I got no interest in this. It's sad how many pay drivers they've invited just to make up the numbers. The prototypes make me want to claw my eyes out as well. Just horrificly ugly vehicles.

 

 

Strange that you have no interest but still opened the thread and commented on it. 



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#20 Jonnycraig37

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 12:35

checks to see if she's there on merit..........


EDIT:
She's actually there on merit ASSHOLE !!!

I think you may want to focus your misogynistic derision at the heiress to the champagne fortune mentioned by Victor.
Who BTW looks a bit like Julia Louis-Dreyfus :love:

Jp


Sorry JP, you misspelled there, she's there because of a bank debit.

Debit.

#21 MrWorldwideJr

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 13:28

Sorry JP, you misspelled there, she's there because of a bank debit.

Debit.

 

As is pretty much every other silver or bronze driver in the field. That's kinda just what happens in sportscar racing so I don't really understand your point?



#22 Jonnycraig37

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 16:57

As is pretty much every other silver or bronze driver in the field. That's kinda just what happens in sportscar racing so I don't really understand your point?


I wasn't making a point, was merely a lighthearted jab at JP and his histrionics when anyone points out that she's a racing driver due to a large wallet and some lady bits, rather than any particular talent.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 17:18

There's a lot to come from all these cars imo. I think Prosche showed most of what it has at the Prologue, but I don't think Audi or Toyota did. Porsche is all ironed out with it's car. At the prologue they had their high downforce package running which is what will run at Silverstone. Audi ran that as well but didn't run trouble free so I think they'll improve. Toyota ran both high and low downforce packages and mostly did short runs so I doubt they gave it all they had either. Plus they and Audi have brand new cars which will have ran more in private. Too bad we don't know what times they did at Ricard the week after!

 

Onto another positive note, Manor may be interested in privateer lmp1- http://www.motorspor...p1-move-686365/


Edited by TF110, 12 April 2016 - 17:19.


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 17:20

I tested my raincoat/trouser combo today. I'm ready!

 

I won't be at Silverstone, but I will put my feet in a bucket of water and sprinkle myself ever so often, just to get in the right mood.



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 17:30

I won't be at Silverstone, but I will put my feet in a bucket of water and sprinkle myself ever so often, just to get in the right mood.

 

Don't forget to stick your head in front of a fan blowing at an uncomfortably high setting.



#26 Mat13

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 17:43

Don't forget to stick your head in front of a fan blowing at an uncomfortably high setting.


It's supposed to be wet at home as well on Sunday, so I'll be watching from the sofa. In the garden. You two are just amateurs.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 19:12

You wouldnt get me in a prototype for millions unless all I had to do was drive one for a bit, get out and go to the bank. I would rather race a histrionic or a VLN car, proper track, not the nonsense WEC races at most of the time.

 

Great to watch in drips on telly, great to drive in but Goddam awful to watch live in a race.

 

Much better to go on qually days when it's cheaper, the cars are going quicker.

 

Racing in WEC is for special people only unless you are talking about Le Mans which is the Glastonbury, Cup Final, Grand National and Wimbleon of motorsport and sadly the only event a heck of a lot of motorsport fans attend all year, to their shame.



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 21:41

Ah, Chunder old boy.

Good to have you along.



#29 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 22:21

Le Mans for Davidson well overdue. I might watch this, undecided.

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Posted 13 April 2016 - 05:18

I would rather race a histrionic or a VLN car, proper track, not the nonsense WEC races at most of the time.

Apposite.



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 12:03

At the moment looking at the BBC weather page race day looks dry if a little cloudy and cool, sorry change that to cold. Saturday looks interesting as showers are forecast, could make the qualifying and support races very interesting.



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 15:30

You wouldnt get me in a prototype for millions unless all I had to do was drive one for a bit, get out and go to the bank. I would rather race a histrionic or a VLN car, proper track, not the nonsense WEC races at most of the time.
 
Great to watch in drips on telly, great to drive in but Goddam awful to watch live in a race.
 
Much better to go on qually days when it's cheaper, the cars are going quicker.
 
Racing in WEC is for special people only unless you are talking about Le Mans which is the Glastonbury, Cup Final, Grand National and Wimbleon of motorsport and sadly the only event a heck of a lot of motorsport fans attend all year, to their shame.


thanks for that, we didn't realise you had such a viewpoint.


I was planning to go to this but annoyingly the BTCC is on at Donington, which I'd already committed to.

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Posted 13 April 2016 - 19:49

These car often match or exceed their qualifying pace during the race. That's because they have real tires, not big, round black pieces of cheese that they brand Pirelli in F1. If you watched 2015's race at Silverstone, it was instant classic. I hope this year's is as good or better with Toyota in the mix.



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 19:56

Hoping for a Porsche vs Audi vs Toyota battle to the wire

 

However I fear that Toyota will be off the pace

 

But you never know 



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 20:27

These car often match or exceed their qualifying pace during the race. That's because they have real tires, not big, round black pieces of cheese that they brand Pirelli in F1. If you watched 2015's race at Silverstone, it was instant classic. I hope this year's is as good or better with Toyota in the mix.

That probably has more to do with the fact that the current qualifying system requires them to run mutliple laps and the time is an aggregate of the best from the two nominated drivers. Since at least the 80's, the only time in F1 that qualy laps have been slower than race laps was when they had to qualify with race fuel on board.

 

We all know Chunder's absolutely full of it but if your going to counter his BS you can at least not twist the facts.



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 20:33

It is not BS but sheer fact from EVERY motorsport fan that I know who watch anything from stock cars to autograss!

 

I know, I have been and was bored witless after 2 hours of watching 25 cars drone (literally in LMP1 cases) around an airfield for hour after hour!

 

Let's face it guys, these cars exist for one reason only, to win a race in France, they might aswell not exists to the massive majority of race fans for the rest of the year, so dont try and pretend otherwise!!

 

Dont get me wrong the cars are amazing pieces of machinery, but for fans unless you are an uber fan of sports cars, this i ahrdly a massive interesting race or series.



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 20:38

ELMS is live on BT Sport, but WEC is not. Some thought BT had got WEC for 2016, the EPG suggests this is not the case.

Motors TV have the coverage this year except Lemans which is on eurosport although there was some confusion

 

Sunday 11.30-18.10 motors tv 



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 20:44

It is not BS but sheer fact from EVERY motorsport fan that I know who watch anything from stock cars to autograss!

 

I know, I have been and was bored witless after 2 hours of watching 25 cars drone (literally in LMP1 cases) around an airfield for hour after hour!

 

Let's face it guys, these cars exist for one reason only, to win a race in France, they might aswell not exists to the massive majority of race fans for the rest of the year, so dont try and pretend otherwise!!

 

Dont get me wrong the cars are amazing pieces of machinery, but for fans unless you are an uber fan of sports cars, this i ahrdly a massive interesting race or series.

Just my opinion but at the moment it's very interesting and it's one of the best motorsport series at the moment, it's pure hard racing with interesting strategy, teamwork needed and great drivers  



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Posted 13 April 2016 - 21:18

 

 

Dont get me wrong the cars are amazing pieces of machinery, but for fans unless you are an uber fan of sports cars, this i ahrdly a massive interesting race or series.

 

oh for fecks sake, we have threads on this because we're fans. And every time there is one you come in to tell us how you find it boring. We don't care. Feck off to sports you find interesting. I don't mean it in a personal way, because I find your opinion on certain subjects to be bang on, but effing hell, you can't leave a sportscar/WEC thread along, can you



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Posted 14 April 2016 - 10:31

oh for fecks sake, we have threads on this because we're fans. And every time there is one you come in to tell us how you find it boring. We don't care. Feck off to sports you find interesting. I don't mean it in a personal way, because I find your opinion on certain subjects to be bang on, but effing hell, you can't leave a sportscar/WEC thread along, can you

Totally agree (especially with the first line)

 

If you don't like sportscars then don't click on any sportscar threads

 

NO need to talk negatively about it



#41 TomNokoe

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 11:05

The WEC app has Chromecast support, which is brilliant. £33 for the whole season.

#42 AlexLangheck

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 12:06

The WEC and Sportscars are in great condition at the moment - and seems to have taken over from rallying as the 'must see' non F1 category.



#43 FLB

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 12:23

For Audi, confirmation that the no.7 Dream Team is done. Leena Gade is leaving after Le Mans to a managing role for Bentley Motorsport.



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Posted 14 April 2016 - 12:23

The WEC and Sportscars are in great condition at the moment - and seems to have taken over from rallying as the 'must see' non F1 category.

 

Certainly are.

 

At present, i put WEC & BTCC in a far better condition than F1 is these days. Both of which are certainly better value for money.



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Posted 14 April 2016 - 12:26

Wow, what a weekend of motorsport. ELMS/WEC, BTCC, World Rallycross, IndyCar...oh, and that F1 thing as well.

Just how much of this I'm going to get to see, I've no idea. I hope this year the top three are much closer in performance. It's great that there's strong manufacturers in LMP1, but it's a shame that one always seems to have a considerable advantage over the others. I mean, if I wanted to see a German manufacturer endlessly dominating, I'd watch F1.  ;)

Will be intrigued to see how the Ford GTs get on after their challenging start to the year over in the US.



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Posted 14 April 2016 - 15:33

For Audi, confirmation that the no.7 Dream Team is done. Leena Gade is leaving after Le Mans to a managing role for Bentley Motorsport.


I hope this ain't a sign of VW Group leaving only Porsche in LMP1 for 2018.

If that happened, then I'd at least like to see a Bentley DPi program.

#47 stewie

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 18:05

Weather forecast for Saturday is getting better now. Thank god as I'm considering going.



#48 chunder27

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 20:59

25 quid on the gate!  To watch a few low key races and qually!

 

Jeez that is a lot and will likely mean a lot of people wont go, silly pricing.



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Posted 14 April 2016 - 21:08

I've paid £40 for the whole weekend. Includes pit walk, paddock access and roving grandstands. Pretty good value in my opinion!

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 22:21

Great OP Victor.

It's great that WEC is back and I hope it'll be a lot closer than last year (although beating the tense finale of last year would be tough). I wish the factory LMP1s would have more exciting liveries though and good grief does the Audi look ugly. Seems silly that so many series ar on this weekend, it seems like terribly poor planning.

It is not BS but sheer fact from EVERY motorsport fan that I know who watch anything from stock cars to autograss!

I know, I have been and was bored witless after 2 hours of watching 25 cars drone (literally in LMP1 cases) around an airfield for hour after hour!

Let's face it guys, these cars exist for one reason only, to win a race in France, they might aswell not exists to the massive majority of race fans for the rest of the year, so dont try and pretend otherwise!!

Dont get me wrong the cars are amazing pieces of machinery, but for fans unless you are an uber fan of sports cars, this i ahrdly a massive interesting race or series.

Yes but that's your opinion which you are entitled too but there are plenty of people who are passionate about it and that doesn't make them wrong for being passionate or excited about it. We can't all like the same forms of Motorsport but there is no need to criticise people who like something that you don't. :)