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[Marklar]

Audi #7 DSQ

 

Porsche has provisionally inherited overall victory in Sunday’s Six Hours of Silverstone, following a post-race technical infraction on the race-winning No. 7 Audi R18 of Andre Lotterer, Benoit Treluyer and Marcel Fassler.

The Audi’s front skid block was found to have been under the 20mm minimum in post-race scrutineering.

It therefore gives the No. 2 Porsche 919 Hybrid of Romain Dumas, Neel Jani and Marc Lieb the win, pending a potential appeal from Audi.

 

 

http://sportscar365....rstone-victory/

Audi had time until tonight to appeal, they didn't, so the result is now official - Porsche wins, what a shocker

 

http://www.dailyspor...utineering.html

[SophieB]

Scott Mitchell ‏@ScottAutosport  6h6 hours ago

Scott Mitchell Retweeted Autosport

Winner exclusion hours after a race is motorsport's version of Partridge's "No, Christ's Chin won - I got confused".

 

 

 

Also, they are going to appeal:

Motorsport.com ‏@Motorsport  4h4 hours ago
Audi Sport announces it will appeal Silverstone exclusion: http://bit.ly/1U0UxGm  #WEC

[Nonesuch]

That's a great way to sour the events of an otherwise excellent weekend of endurance racing.

 

But, the rules are the rules. If this stands it's a very disappointing effort from Audi: one technical DNF and one technical DSQ. That's no way to make things hard for Porsche.

[Victor_RO]

That's a great way to sour the events of an otherwise excellent weekend of endurance racing.

 

Not the only Silverstone class winner excluded for a technical infringement this weekend, the GTE-winning Ferrari in ELMS was excluded for a non-conforming front splitter.

[Scotracer]

The rules are the rules. There's precedent as well for MSC being DSQd for plank wear...

 

Let's see if there's any mitigating circumstances but we can't just let results stand because otherwise they'd 'sour' the event. 

[Victor_RO]

The rules are the rules. There's precedent as well for MSC being DSQd for plank wear...

 

Let's see if there's any mitigating circumstances but we can't just let results stand because otherwise they'd 'sour' the event. 

 

An LMP2 podium finisher was excluded from last year's race for the exact same infringement, so there is precedent for this.

[SophieB]

Mark Webber ‏@AussieGrit  27s27 seconds ago

That's racing, especially endurance racing. The #1 @Porsche_Team was a pleasure to drive. 8 races to go. Silverstone nice crowd too.

[Wingcommander]

Was it like 50 000 visitors over the weekend? Up a few thousand from last year. I think that the combined ELMS & WEC event works quite well.

[chunder27]

That may be true for pure endurance fans, but I will be honest and say I preferred the classic stuff that used to be on rather than samey stuff support formulas. Watching stuff like old Ferrari's and 95's and M1's ragging round was far more interesting to me and the fans I was with than the ELMS stuff they have now.

[DampMongoose]

That may be true for pure endurance fans, but I will be honest and say I preferred the classic stuff that used to be on rather than samey stuff support formulas. Watching stuff like old Ferrari's and 95's and M1's ragging round was far more interesting to me and the fans I was with than the ELMS stuff they have now.

 

To be honest there was nothing supporting on the Sunday to even make me consider getting out of bed early and heading to Silverstone, which is a shame.  I turned up at just after 11am watched the race and went home.  

[kevinracefan]

Ford's GT has work to do..

 

the 50th anniversary celebration will be disappointing unless Doug finds more ponies...

 

#disappointedKRF

[onewingedangel]

Don't LMP1's have tungsten skid block inserts to prevent excessive plank wear?

Edited by onewingedangel, 18 April 2016 - 17:35.

[Kev00]

Ford's GT has work to do..

the 50th anniversary celebration will be disappointing unless Doug finds more ponies...

#disappointedKRF

It's called sandbagging

[Nonesuch]

The rules are the rules.

Absolutely!
 

... we can't just let results stand because otherwise they'd 'sour' the event.

On the other hand, that did save the 1999 F1 championship from coming to a rather anticlimactic conclusion.

[Peat]

It's called sandbagging

 

Indeed, when they switch on the other cylinders, that thing will fly.  As is, it sounds like a bag of nails.

[kevinracefan]

It's called sandbagging

I've considered that, but if so they're doing a very convincing job..

[Dan333SP]

Indeed, when they switch on the other cylinders, that thing will fly.  As is, it sounds like a bag of nails.

 

It sounds better than the other turbocharged GTE/GTLM entries (Ferrari, BMW).

 

Hard to say whether they are really sandbagging or just missing a bit of speed. GTE is such a tight class anyway that new manufacturers can take a year or two to become competitive, or just never find the speed and vanish. Anyone remember the Lotus Evora GTE? Or the Spyker?

[Kev00]

I've considered that, but if so they're doing a very convincing job..

Well they were double stinting on tyres, partly in prep for Le Mans and partly so they don't get restrained by balance of performance. So I also suspect the were holding back the power as well.

[kevinracefan]

Well they were double stinting on tyres, partly in prep for Le Mans and partly so they don't get restrained by balance of performance. So I also suspect the were holding back the power as well.

I hope you're right..

 

I don't want to be #disappointedKRF

[TF110]

Lmp1 fastest laps- 1:40.3 Porsche, 1:40.4 Audi, 1:40.6 Toyota. A 1.6 second inprovement for Toyota over 2015's car at their worst track.

[messy]

I'm still a bit concerned about Toyota because they still weren't a factor in the battle at the front. After qualifying I thought they were still miles away, but they did show better in the race - but the Audi/Porsche battle looks very, very nicely poised this year. It's a shame about Audi being disqualified and from a racing point of view I kinda hope they're reinstated. 

[Peat]

Well, Toyota were reputedly running in Low DF spec while the other two were in High DF mode.

They themselves said they expected Silverstone to be their weakest round. Here's hoping that's true.

[TheRacingElf]

As a Toyota fan I really hope what they say is true. last year after Silverstone they immediately came out saying they were disappointed with their competitiveness and were honest about it all so I'm hopefull what they say is true.

For Toyota focussing on Le Mans is probably the most logical thing to do though, they've already won the world championship and don't have the budgets like Porsche and Audi. So focussing their efforts more towards Le Mans is a good decision I think.

[Victor_RO]

http://sportscar365....tone-exclusion/

 

Audi drop the intention to appeal. Disqualification stands, results are final.

[taz]

There was snow in Silverstone, and now less then 2 weeks before the race in Spa-Francorchamps, there's snow in the Belgian Ardennes too (picture from today, from the cycling race Liege-Bastogne-Liege)

Low temperatures to be expected for the next 10 days

 

[BRG]

There was snow in Silverstone, and now less then 2 weeks before the race in Spa-Francorchamps, there's snow in the Belgian Ardennes too (picture from today, from the cycling race Liege-Bastogne-Liege)

Low temperatures to be expected for the next 10 days

 

I am going to the Spa Classic on May 21/22 and we're camping.  May take an extra pair of socks. And my skis.

[TF110]

As a Toyota fan I really hope what they say is true. last year after Silverstone they immediately came out saying they were disappointed with their competitiveness and were honest about it all so I'm hopefull what they say is true.
For Toyota focussing on Le Mans is probably the most logical thing to do though, they've already won the world championship and don't have the budgets like Porsche and Audi. So focussing their efforts more towards Le Mans is a good decision I think.

They have to come to grips with their brand new car. I think Spa will suit their car a bit better. I hope they reconsider running the LM spec car as they tested it last week in Aragon.

[Peat]

I haven't got the rulebook infront of me. I heard mention of allowing 3 aero-kits for 2016. Do they HAVE to run all 3 or something? Toyota's strategy of running Low DF at Silverstone and High at Spa seems all back-to-front to me. 

[Risil]

Audi ran a car in high-downforce spec at Spa didn't end well for them -- the #9 was pretty far off the pace and then had a bizarre blowout of one of the side windows.

 

You can win at Spa with mega straightline speed or with good cornering and superior tyre life, so perhaps Toyota are playing to their car's strengths. Or perhaps they're a bit behind with their car following last year's decision to speed up development to catch up with the Germans, and they want to properly evaluate both aero specs ahead of Le Mans?