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[Marklar]

After getting a rid of our beloved elimination qualifying system F1 reverted back to the 2015 system. This also featured a 'rain' delay and - oh wonder - no Mercedes front row lock out! Did you heard that Bernie? A Mercedes is starting LAST!

 

 

After a gearbox change and PU failure in qualifying defending world champion Lewis Hamilton has to start from the back of the grid. Will it be his first race without T1 incident of the season and can he make his way through the field? Meanwhile team mate Nico Rosberg qualified on pole and starts with soft tyres into the race. Suppostely an advantage. But can Ricciardo and especially the Ferrari challenge him stil for the victory? Also, as usual a very close fight in the midfield is expected. 

 

The grid

1. Rosberg
2. Ricciardo
3. Raikkonen
4. Vettel
5. Bottas
6. Kvyat
7. Perez
8. Sainz
9. Verstappen
10. Massa
11. Alonso
12. Button
13. Hulkenberg
14. Grosjean
15. Ericsson
16. Nasr
17. Magnussen
18. Gutierrez
19. Palmer
20. Haryanto
21. Wehrlein
22. Hamilton

The circuit

Race facts

Track lenght: 5.451 km

Laps: 56

Race distance: 305.066 km

Full throttle: 65 %
Braking zones: 8 (3 hard braking)
Braking: 15 %
Brake wear: medium
Tyre wear: medium/high

Fuel consumption: medium
Overtaking: relatively easy
Pitstop window: 23 seconds
Safety car likehood: 33 %
Distance pole to turn 1: 380 m
Pole conversion: 58.33 %
Wins from: 1st (7), 3rd (2), 2nd, 5th, 6th (each 1)
Winners current drivers: Hamilton (4), Alonso (2), Raikkonen, Vettel, Button, Rosberg (each 1)
Winners teams: Ferrari (4), McLaren, Mercedes (each 3), Renault, Red Bull (each 1)
Winners engine: Mercedes (6), Ferrari (4), Renault (2)

 

Pirelli

• Compounds: supersoft/soft/medium (at least two compounds have to be used during the race, one of them must be either medium or soft)
• Strategy: 3 stopper fastest: SS - S (11) - S (26) - S (41) or S - S (16) - S (31) - SS (46), a S/S/S/M strategy looks interesting but is slightly slower
• Longest FP2 stints: Medium (16 laps, BOT), Soft (17 laps, RAI), Super Soft (11 laps, RAI)
• Top 10: all drivers starts on SS, Rosberg on S
• Tyre allocation: TBA

 

Top Speeds

 

Weather (Ubimet): Clouds will move out of the area overnight with a brisk northwesterly wind. A moderate wind should remain in the area on Sunday during the morning hours, but will gradually decrease throughout the day. Skies will be primarily clear with only a few high clouds later in the day. Visibility will also increase as drier air moves over the Shanghai area. For the race, we expect mostly sunny skies and temperatures in the low 20s.

 

Starting times
https://www.f1calendar.com/

Live timings
Live timing with sector times (authorization needed)
Official live timing without concrete sector times but with live commentary (full access with subscription)

IRC Live chat
https://kiwiirc.com/...rt.com/atlasf1/

 

 

And also don't forget the 'highlight' of the day: the showdown between Herbert and Alonso on the drivers parade.....

 

Edited by Marklar, 17 April 2016 - 00:16.

[jcpower13]

I predict Nico coming home 20s ahead of whichever Ferrari doesn't suffer from an exploding turbo, would be a much bigger gap if Nico doesn't spend 40 laps cruising about conserving fuel and tires.

[RPM40]

This could be a great race. I know it will probably end up with Rosberg running away, but with the tyre deg and cars out of position it could be very interesting.

[KingTiger]

I got a feeling it is Haryanto's or Palmer's turn to smack into Hamilton at turn 1.

[jcpower13]

I got a feeling it is Haryanto's or Palmer's turn to smack into Hamilton at turn 1.

 

I'm sure Bottas will find a way to get a crappy start and plow into Lewis at T1.

[goingthedistance]

I think we might see a red win given the sunny forecast.

[HP]

I'm sure Bottas will find a way to get a crappy start and plow into Lewis at T1.

Bottas seems to be quickly becoming the new Maldonado.

 

Hamilton will most likely get by Bottas at some stage of the race. Let see if Hamilton is patient enough not to force the issue.

[TomNokoe]

1. Vettel
2. Rosberg
3. Ricciardo
4. Kimi
5. Massa
6. Hamilton

[KingTiger]

1. Vettel
2. Rosberg
3. Ricciardo
4. Kimi
5. Massa
6. Hamilton

 

Your first four is probable but no way does Massa get up there. Unfortunately Williams don't have the pace anymore. Alonso will definitely beat them. 

[Jvr]

Ok I will throw in my expected top six without any techical gremlins or safety cars:

 

1. Rosberg

2. Kimi

3. Vettel

4. Bottas

5. Ricciardo

6. Hamilton

 

Bottas and Ricciardo could also finish another way around.

[MastaKink]

I got a feeling it is Haryanto's or Palmer's turn to smack into Hamilton at turn 1.

 

If he doesn't sort his start out I wouldn't worry about it, they'll be at T3 by the time Lewis gets to T1.

 

[Disgrace]

Should be worth watching to see Hamilton fight to the front. I think a podium is quite possible if the race is chaotic enough.

[jcpower13]

Right, my despair at Lewis suffering a PU failure is over, now I'm ready to watch him scythe through the field, now let's hope FOM shows it instead of focusing on whatever midfield train catches their attention.

[MastaKink]

I think it will be a great race with Lewis coming through,McLarens fighting in the points,Danny Ric up there annoying the other Merc and the Ferrari's hopefully.

 

I'm cautiously optimistic and not just because i'm wired with painkillers and doing an all nighter here in the UK through not just the race but the Old Firm game in the afternoon before stumbling through to my bed and falling into hibernation until about Wednesday.

[pusko]

Will be an awesome start to the race.
1. Ric, Vet, Rai could all possibly pass Ros into the first corner.
2. Ham on the charge.
3. What can McLaren do?

Edited by pusko, 17 April 2016 - 02:16.

[turssi]

For those like me wondering about current WDC standings:

1 ROSBERG 50
2 HAMILTON 33
3 RICCIARDO 24
4 RÄIKKÖNEN 18
5 GROSJEAN 18
6 VETTEL 15
7 MASSA 14
8 VERSTAPPEN 9
9 HULKENBERG 6
10 KVYAT 6
11 BOTTAS 6
12 SAINZ 2
13 VANDOORNE 1
14 MAGNUSSEN
15 PALMER
16 ERICSSON
17 PEREZ
18 WEHRLEIN
19 NASR
20 BUTTON
21 HARYANTO

[turssi]

Looks like FOM don't rank Nando or Guti yet. The list above is from f1.com.

Edited by turssi, 17 April 2016 - 02:37.

[jonpollak]

I get to watch the race live and in HD in my hotel room here in NYC !!!!

Gonna be rooting for Nico.- to go "FULL INDYCAR" and stuff it in the bamboo barrier.

 

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 17 April 2016 - 03:55.

[FPV GTHO]

I see Rosberg taking this easily. Even if he gets passed into T1, which without a poor start I don't see why it would happen - the difference between the Ultra Soft, Super Soft and Soft is about half that between the Soft, Medium and Hard - he can run a much longer, harder first stint whilst everyone else will be nursing Tue Super Soft's.

[RPM40]

I think we might see a red win given the sunny forecast.

We'll see. I feel the media hype Ferrari up so much now it's hard not to buy into it and feel Mercedes are under more pressure than they really are.

[kvyatfan]

Ricciardo to win?

 

I think he might take an early lead with Raikkonen in second. And I think the pace will be better than practise. So with my out there prediction I will say:

 

1. Ricciardo

2. Raikkonen

3. Rosberg

4. Vettel

5. Kvyat

6. Hamilton

 

In any case, I think even the front will be good racing today.

[fZero]

Ferrari to have another engine failure on the warm up lap. Remaining Ferrari and Rosberg to take each other out on the first corner. Hamilton storms through the field but Ricciardo holds him off.

 

1.Ricciardo

2. Hamilton

3. Bottas

 

[Afterburner]

I think it will be a great race with Lewis coming through,McLarens fighting in the points,Danny Ric up there annoying the other Merc and the Ferrari's hopefully.
 
I'm cautiously optimistic and not just because i'm wired with painkillers and doing an all nighter here in the UK through not just the race but the Old Firm game in the afternoon before stumbling through to my bed and falling into hibernation until about Wednesday.

Now here's a man who knows how to watch a race!

[HeadFirst]

Winning an F1 race is never easy, especially given the current tire situation. Nico a well deserved win, ahead of a Ferrari and an RB (which drivers TBD). Lewis .... unlike some Hamilton fans who have lost hope. this non-fan predicts a brilliant 4th, better if a Ferrari fails.

[KingTiger]

Ferrari to have another engine failure on the warm up lap. Remaining Ferrari and Rosberg to take each other out on the first corner. Hamilton storms through the field but Ricciardo holds him off.

1.Ricciardo
2. Hamilton
3. Bottas

I will take it.

[Niceone]

Winning an F1 race is never easy, especially given the current tire situation. Nico a well deserved win, ahead of a Ferrari and an RB (which drivers TBD). Lewis .... unlike some Hamilton fans who have lost hope. this non-fan predicts a brilliant 4th, better if a Ferrari fails.

Given that it's possible to overtake here and relative performance of Mercedes..then 5th is absolute minimum for Hamilton (if there's no special drama).

[gruntguru]

I think we might see a red win given the sunny forecast.

Communist conspiracy?

[EndlessMotion]

After a spontaneous night out I've only just got in. 5AM so no point in trying to get a couple of hours sleep, i'll only oversleep and wake up around lap 30 and be in the worst mood for the rest of the day.

 

Time to put the coffee on and tune in for the track parade for a change. Looking forward to see if Fernando throws Herbert off the back of the truck whilst reminding him he's not a world champion.

 

Expecting a straight forward Nico win but you never know. Hoping for a safety car two thirds into the race once Lewis has hopefully made it into the top 5-6 to make for a more interesting finish. Rooting for Kimi to have a strong race and finish ahead of Seb for a change too.

[Araqiel]

Race Weather

Rain further inland is no threat to Shanghai until after dark tonight, leaving it 21°C and mostly sunny apart from some high cloud, feeling cooler than previously in the weekend despite a similar ambient temperature due to a 5-10mph wind from the north.

[Myrvold]

Looks like FOM don't rank Nando or Guti yet. The list above is from f1.com.

With no finishes, it's quite hard to rank them :)'

 

I think Hamilton have a good chance here to be fair. The Merc will pass cars quite easily, especially with DRS after L2. And if the SS's only lasts 4-6 laps in the race, he'll suddenly be in a fairly good position.

[search]

I see Rosberg taking this easily. Even if he gets passed into T1, which without a poor start I don't see why it would happen - the difference between the Ultra Soft, Super Soft and Soft is about half that between the Soft, Medium and Hard - he can run a much longer, harder first stint whilst everyone else will be nursing Tue Super Soft's.

 

ýeah, what will be interesting to see is, if Mercedes is willing to sacrifice the lead. He can run longer, but he will most certainly be slower than those cars following, and could drop back behind the Ferrari at the time of his pit stop some 7-8 laps later. He would have an advantage later on again, but I can't really see Mercedes willing to see this happen - so it could force him to stop early as well

[Marklar]

Apparentely this is the tyre allocation

 

[milestone 11]

Nando/Johnny love in.

[Marklar]

Nando/Johnny love in.

Yes 

 

[FPV GTHO]

Pirelli said last week that the (then) 14 cars that don't make Q3 have their extra Q3 set destroyed but that table still lists the extra set, and I believe the wording of the rules supports the table. I don't know what to believe.

[Marklar]

Lol. Sky is demonstrating a Pirelli tyre by using a Mozarella. How fitting.....

Pirelli said last week that the (then) 14 cars that don't make Q3 have their extra Q3 set destroyed

This was in case if the quali system is not changing again

Edited by Marklar, 17 April 2016 - 04:53.

[lbennie]

Ted has decided putting a pirelli sticker on a lump of cheese on international tv is a good idea, I'm not sure Pirelli will agree

[kosmos]

Yes 

 

 

 

Tha image means nothing until Herbert recognize he was wrong, I hope Fernando proves him wrong today with a great race.

[EndlessMotion]

Yes 

 

 

For those of you that were unable to watch live, in the next shot he actually picked Johnny up and threw him over the side

[RedOne]

Yes

Not really, that hug was nothing. Fernando and Felipe were laughing the whole way through the interview about how Johnny wants Alonso at home. Loved Felipe jumping in to take a pop at Johnny lol

Edited by RedOne, 17 April 2016 - 05:03.

[Marklar]

Ted has decided putting a pirelli sticker on a lump of cheese on international tv is a good idea, I'm not sure Pirelli will agree

And that's the Pirelli tyre....

 

[Graveltrappen]

Looking forward to this. I think 7am is a perfect time to watch a race and then still be able to enjoy your Sunday.

[noikeee]

Looking forward to this. I think 7am is a perfect time to watch a race and then still be able to enjoy your Sunday.

Yeah, unless you just arrived at home in an absurdly drunk shape like I just did.

Think I might have to skip this one. But Rosberg's got it in the bag in my opinion.

[ConsiderAndGo]

Excellent words from Sergio Marchionne.

[xmoonrakerx]

Commentators saying Maldonado will probably come back to williams next year ... god no please

[BalanceUT]

Race Weather

Rain further inland is no threat to Shanghai until after dark tonight, leaving it 21°C and mostly sunny apart from some high cloud, feeling cooler than previously in the weekend despite a similar ambient temperature due to a 5-10mph wind from the north.

Can't see the clouds in Shanghai, anyway. So, if their up there, that's nice, I guess... 

[Marklar]

Commentators saying Maldonado will probably come back to williams next year ... god no please

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

You must be joking...

[xmoonrakerx]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You must be joking...

Im not. Spanish commentators said it. Williams needs the money and if Ferrari takes bottas or massa retires, he could come back

[BalanceUT]

Viewing method for this race has changed. I no longer have access to my English language station (NBCSN), so I'm going to view on Univision (Spanish US network) that I do have access to with BBC radio providing me with useful race information that I can understand. I expecting the two to be many seconds, even a minute, out of sync. Unpredictable which will be in front of the other based on my experiences doing this kind of thing watching soccer matches. 

[Kristian]

Im not. Spanish commentators said it. Williams needs the money and if Ferrari takes bottas or massa retires, he could come back

I thought Williams were doing quite well financially?