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[Lee Nicolle]

This weekend is the annual Mallala Historic meeting.

Quite reasonable fields in several categories. And unfortunatly a few shunts and breakages also.

All my pics are standing still, once they are moving they get all blurry

I hope some others can take the moving pics!

 

Pic 1. LC Torana Sports Sedan, with V6 Buick Indy Car engine. Ex Foyt. Unfortunatly it had a minor fire in the first Sprint and is out. The Charger in the background must have been lean, burnt a hole down the side of the piston. So that one is out too!

Pic 2 Serge Deluca in the x Lui Deluca Anglia. On You Tube there is a clip of that car at AIR posted by Super 100mph The title has the Anglia and Mick Monterossos Escort. Worth a look

 

Pic 3. Naughty Benneton, while being pushed into the shed it ran over driver Josh Keen  and he went to hospital possibly with a broken ankle!

 

Pic 4 The Ex Sambo  F2 that has developed an oil problem. Now owned by Brad Deluca.

[Lee Nicolle]

1 The ex Mick Monterosso Anglia. 

2 Datsun 1600 engine. Another oiling casualty.

3 Benneton engine the interesting side. Check out the turbo and intercooler size.

4 a yawning Norax. Doing double duty racing [ Peter Turner] and regularity

[Lee Nicolle]

Pic 1 Colin Bond is the meeting patron, just seen over the B pillar of his old Rally BDA Escort. Yes a REAL one!

Pic 2 Graham Boulters damaged Granatini. A spud pulled out of a rear lower wishbone and turned the car in the pit wall. Ouch. Boults is ok and in the background.

Pic 3 Serge pulled third gear out of the southern hairpin and it swapped ends. Scrooge Deluca on his EIGHT year old rear  tyres! Moderate damage and out!

Pic 4 Powerfull Pussy going well and NOT spraying oil.

Pic 5 Clem Smiths Charger, on display. And it does go!

Pic 6 Simon Pfitzner [PPG] and the ex Barry Bray/ Bill Emeny Stanza.

Pic 7 The ex Barry Bray Austin A30 with McGee injected Nissan Fairlady engine. I saw Phil March [Ex A1 midget and Sprintcar champ] having a fiddle with the injection. Simon Pfitzner made the manifold from billett, a copy of the original.

And yes Barry Bray is there in his Gazelle as well! That was broken but seems to be quite alive again now.

 

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 23 April 2016 - 09:14.

[SJ Lambert]

Entry List

https://www.meecamsa...=0&SortBy=Class

[Lee Nicolle]

Sunday. If you look at Natsoft the last 3 races Saturday actually happened Sunday morning. Who says computers do not get confused!

Pic 1, My best effort at moving cars! Turn 1 and that was the placings for the first 4. Roger Oliver, Daryl Hansen, Rob Vanderkamp and Graham Jarrett

Pic 2 MG PA Lindsay Hick. 

Pic3 Elfin 700. Philip Carter 

pic 4 A very nice Big Healey. Tony Parkinson

[GMACKIE]

Pic 1 looks fine to me, Lee.

[Lee Nicolle]

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Pic 1 Elfin 300. Richard Nitsche

Pic 2   Cobra clone, with V6 Capri power. He is English!

Pic 3 Austin Seven Special. Geoff Redin. That is how low you can get a Seven!!

Pic4 Brabham F2. Jack won a championship in that car. Peter Williams.

Pic5 Bob Schapel supercharged MG.

pic 6 Kevin Shearers mighty A special. Michael Shearer.

Pic 7 Marcel Special. Robert Sales Plymouth or Dodge sidevalve with 3 SUs. With a Railton Terraplance Special in the background

 

[SJ Lambert]

Richard Davison's race one of the Formula Fords

https://m.youtube.co...ure=youtu.be&a=

[SJ Lambert]

Formula Ford - Race 3

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=A6-R3R7qtG0

[BT 35-8]

Lee ,

 

Sir Jack definately did not win anything in that car as it did not exist in 1966 .

Sold new to the USA 1967 .

The C of D will not reflect Peter Williams wish when finalised.

 

Bryan Miller , Chairman , AHMSC Eligibility .

[Lee Nicolle]

Lee ,

 

Sir Jack definately did not win anything in that car as it did not exist in 1966 .

Sold new to the USA 1967 .

The C of D will not reflect Peter Williams wish when finalised.

 

Bryan Miller , Chairman , AHMSC Eligibility .

I am only going on what was written on the car.

[Lee Nicolle]

1 Matich SR4 Repco. , and yes I know it is a lousy pic of a very pretty car.

Pic 2 Keith Williamsons Farrell Clubbie with damage from running over track debris. Wrecked the radiator plenum and damaged the floor too, right under his bum!

Pic 3 Colin Bond, meeting patron and the BDA Escort that he rallied in the 70s. He drove it on the lunchtime parade. I asked how long since he had driven it,, 'probably 40 years'

Pic 4. Lola T142 which Tim Macrow woke up on Sunday. Car does not sound well but maybe that is the speedboat exhaust. Went ok and looks great.

Pic 5Lola T140 of John Bryant which was unwell in the engine all weekend.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 27 April 2016 - 10:43.

[BT 35-8]

Lee,

 

I fully appreciate your comment , needed to set the record straight.

[GeoffR]

Pic 3 Colin Bond, meeting patron and the BDA Escort that he rallied in the 70s. He drove it on the lunchtime parade. I asked how long since he had driven it,, 'probably 40 years'

 

Bondy has aged very well! If original the car is an absolute classic, significant part of rallying history in Australia. So this one was kept when IYK-000 (and were there others?) was sold off?

[Lee Nicolle]

Bondy has aged very well! If original the car is an absolute classic, significant part of rallying history in Australia. So this one was kept when IYK-000 (and were there others?) was sold off?

Yes Colin looks very good for his age.

There was a few of those Escorts. This is the one that went to Ian Hill after the team was disbanded. By and large it was maintained and not modified much from original.

[Lee Nicolle]

Some more Sports Sedans. From an ex Sports Sedan competitor

1 Barry Bray in the Gazelle

2 Galant Turbo. Darden Brown Vic

Pic 3 Escort with I think a pushrod. Peter Teague Vic

Pic 4 For Sale Mini, ex Steven Sheils. Display only.

Pic 5 Rotary  TE Gemeni  Coupe which has had a LOT of owners. Stephen Craig has had in near on 20 years. x Rowan Harmon, Grant Munday, Wayne Mahnken , John Chambers and more. Had a Holden 6 for some years early in its life

Pic 6, Last and not least Troy Ryan in the ex Messenger V8 Imp. It had the screen cleaned! Though Troy was trying to run two cars, the Imp and his regular Group S Sprite which he broke Sun arvo also.

 

 

Withe all the Sports Sedans on this page which two were never actually legal too be raced here in Oz? A free smiley for the winner.

 

[Lee Nicolle]

Racing Cars.

1 Elfin 700 F2. Philip Lane.

2Lynx FJ Bill Norman

3Richard Carter Elfin mono

4Sean Whelan Brabham BT 30.

5Andrew Robson Ralt RT4

6Bill Hemming. Elfin FJ

7Cooper Jap

8Bill Simpson Cooper Mk9 JAP

9Elfin Mono Gepoff Varey

10 The Shearer A Special

[timbo]

Hi Lee, with no real proof, I'd put a vote to the Barry Bray Nissan Gazelle as to be never really legal to race in Australia.

Of course, you do leave yourself open, as with cars legal to race, and cars that actually did race, well, it gets a bit muddled sometimes.

Edited by timbo, 29 April 2016 - 11:33.

[Lee Nicolle]

Hi Lee, with no real proof, I'd put a vote to the Barry Bray Nissan Gazelle as to be never really legal to race in Australia.

Of course, you do leave yourself open, as with cars legal to race, and cars that actually did race, well, it gets a bit muddled sometimes.

The Gazelle was sold here in small numbers. 

It is two other cars, cars that were sold here but not in that form.

And yes many cars were logbooked that did not comply with the 'description' in the CAMS manual.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 30 April 2016 - 00:08.

[Librules]

If you're talking about the period when S/Sedans had to run engines from the same manufacturer,  maybe the Imp and the Gemini??   I don't know the Imp's history but I suspect it would pre-date that particular rule.

[Lee Nicolle]

The Stanza and Gemeni coupes were never sold here and the category was at one time for cars sold in Australia. 

Barry Brays Stanza caused grief when first built. From recollection the Gemeni was originally built as a TD and upgraded a bit later.

TE Coupes were homolgated as a Touring Car here BUT never sold here in that form.

Both cars were current shape [for Japan] when built.

Many other cars caused some grief also, The Corvair! never sold in Oz, RX7s which always were a Sports Car not a sedan. The rules changed later which let in Pontiacs and the like.

 

What the rules are now?  Carbon fibre Jags and Astons without doors really do not cut it for me.

[smeetsie]

Lee.

Chev Monza, Boss Mustangs, RS3100 Capri, even Fiat Abarth 1000s were not available in Oz.

That first Monteroso Anglia was once a Gawler Speed shop sponsored, Lotus twin cam powered car, I bought for $1000 and sold immediately to Dennis Wood for the same $$$.

I had the Bray Norman supercharger off the A30 for many years. Sold it to a fellow who was putting it onto an FB Holden I think.

It was also on Kevin Wood's Elfin 600 - pumping methanol into a Toyota Celica 1600 engine.

Regards

Pete S.

[smeetsie]

Sorry.

Further to that, I bought the Ken Hastings Karman Ghia sports sedan.......never homolagated as a sedan as far as I know.

Hastings transferred all the mechanicals to an AW11MR2.....ie north south Ford BDG and FT200 Hewland gearbox.

That was an interesting interpretation of the then rules. An MR2 had raced as a production car....and the centre line of the 4AGE crank in East west mode was just in front of the axle line.

Plus rules said you could move engine in engine bay. The MR2 was a very clever littile car, and CAMS banned them straight way. Hastings had the 2 litre lap record wherever he raced.

Regards

again

Pete S.

[Lee Nicolle]

Pete, again cars that were not sedans, though were 4 seaters. 

MR2 was a 2 seater as were many RX7s too.

The Monza too were not sold here. 69-70 Mustangs were in very limited numbers by dealers only. Ford did sell very limited numbers of 65 66 Mustangs too. Jeff grandsens is an examplecars internationally. Hence the fleet of later Camaros and Pontiacs around no, The US TransAms are NOT Sports Sedans just to confuse the issue futher.

CAMS log booked cars against the rules, the rules that were at times 'clarified', The Corvairs [more than one] had to put the engine behind the trans and were useless. So were scrapped

Some Beetles and Karman Ghias too were made irrelevant

The Dick Ward Fiat still has the engine out the back. As did the ex Brian Randall Karman.

Early Mustangs and Camaros wererecognised as Touring Cars, were acceptedas Sports Sedans and really should not have been.

These rules were changed by the mid 80s recognising 

[smeetsie]

Brian Randall's Karman Ghia was my ex Hastings car. I put a rotary in the back.....sold it to Brian who lives close by.

The car is still around. Was being driven on the road by a young fellow for a while.

Now with a well known Adelaide VW enthusiast.

Pete S.

[Catalina Park]

A car didn't have to be sold here to be eligible to race as a Sports Sedan. Anything that was eligible as a FIA Group 2 was allowed.

[MKI220]

The Stanza and Gemeni coupes were never sold here and the category was at one time for cars sold in Australia.

Stanza coupes were sold here new. Shipment was mistakenly delivered to Melbourne. 120 or 150 cars only.

[Lee Nicolle]

A car didn't have to be sold here to be eligible to race as a Sports Sedan. Anything that was eligible as a FIA Group 2 was allowed.

Mid 70s to early 80s they had to be local cars. When these cars were built.

Though even then it seemed to be swings and roundabouts with CAMS.

They allowed early shape RX7s which are a Sports Car, banned MR2s and Ford Probes, but allowed Calibras and 300Zs. And Alfa GTVs! All of which are Sports Cars. The RX7 and MR2 are 2 seaters really. Most of the imports do not have a back seat.

Oh and early on the banned Porsches as they are a Sports Car. 

[Ray Bell]

There was always a number of cars not sold through regular channels in Australia...

Mustangs, Camaros, all sorts of stuff.

[Lee Nicolle]

It was quite a topic in that period with the Sports Sedan Register SA. Which Barry Bray then was a member of before he moved to Victoria.

[Catalina Park]

Mid 70s to early 80s they had to be local cars. When these cars were built.
Though even then it seemed to be swings and roundabouts with CAMS.
They allowed early shape RX7s which are a Sports Car, banned MR2s and Ford Probes, but allowed Calibras and 300Zs. And Alfa GTVs! All of which are Sports Cars. The RX7 and MR2 are 2 seaters really. Most of the imports do not have a back seat.
Oh and early on the banned Porsches as they are a Sports Car.

Maybe if you read the rule book...
In your opinion the RX7 is a Sports Car. The FIA and CAMS accepted the homologation and that is the end of it. It is a Touring Car.

[Lee Nicolle]

A 2 seat Sports Car is NOT a touring car. CAMS and the FIA may have approved it but it is a Sports Car,, and elegible to race as a Sports Car which a few did.

One I know has raced as a Touring Car, Sports Car, Sports Sedan and what was then Club car. The first 3 in exactly the same configuration and club car skinnier wheels.

It was a MAJOR talking point at the time.

A bit like V8 Ovlovs and Datsuns now

[Lee Nicolle]

The display of classics, many of which did the lunchtime parade. I walked over to have a look and initially though 2/3 had gone,, they had, out onto the track.

1  A selection of the many cars.

2   x Peter Glassonbury TQ, a pretty car winner in its day

3   1948 Kurtis Midget 110 Offy. Modern wheels though. The TQ in the background is the way many were unlike the above pic.

4   Contributor Fred Deuce Kurtis Copy midget with Daimer V8

5   A proper sidecar.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 04 May 2016 - 02:22.

[Lee Nicolle]

Yet more.

1   How you resolve the lack of power in an English Sports Car

2  Again

3 HT 253 GTS with the oh so classic Hustlers. 

4 HG 350

[Catalina Park]

A 2 seat Sports Car is NOT a touring car. CAMS and the FIA may have approved it but it is a Sports Car,, and elegible to race as a Sports Car which a few did.

One I know has raced as a Touring Car, Sports Car, Sports Sedan and what was then Club car. The first 3 in exactly the same configuration and club car skinnier wheels.

It was a MAJOR talking point at the time.

A bit like V8 Ovlovs and Datsuns now

The RX7 had a rear seat that met the required size when it was homologated as a Touring Car. 

[Lee Nicolle]

The RX7 had a rear seat that met the required size when it was homologated as a Touring Car. 

In most markets they were 2 seaters. I have owned a couple from Japan and Hong Kong. And at least most of those early Touring Cars came from Japan.

Plus the left hook ones from the US. All 2 seaters!

[Catalina Park]

In most markets they were 2 seaters. I have owned a couple from Japan and Hong Kong. And at least most of those early Touring Cars came from Japan.

Plus the left hook ones from the US. All 2 seaters!

It doesn't matter which ones you have seen. They were homologated with a rear seat and that is all that matters. 

Your argument is like saying a Cortina shouldn't have a twin cam because you owned one with a 1200 pushrod motor.

Get over it.

[GreenMachine]

Yet more.
1   How you resolve the lack of power in an English Sports Car

I wonder if they did that by taking the body off, and dropping it back down when it was complete? Not a lot of room to wield a spanner!

There was one at the PI historics, but it was, by one definition, properly bastardised forward of the firewall (probably elsewhere too). On the other hand, it may have been a better car for that, if that is the sort of thing you like. No photo, it obviously wasn't my thing!!

Edi: I tell a lie, there was one photo ...

Edited by GreenMachine, 04 May 2016 - 11:23.

[Ray Bell]

It would have fitted much better in a 4000...

That car is a pretty nice thing, 6" wider made all the difference.

[Lee Nicolle]

I wonder if they did that by taking the body off, and dropping it back down when it was complete? Not a lot of room to wield a spanner!

There was one at the PI historics, but it was, by one definition, properly bastardised forward of the firewall (probably elsewhere too). On the other hand, it may have been a better car for that, if that is the sort of thing you like. No photo, it obviously wasn't my thing!!

Edi: I tell a lie, there was one photo ...

The photographer is hiding in the bumper overider! 6 litre what? Chev?

 

Actually while it is quite busy in there it all fits properly.  Seemed to be done very well. 302  Windsor is such a little engine it is a good fit in most cars and possibly weighs less than the original. Though those Webers will increase the weight a bit.

[Ray Bell]

The Chev engine is the same weight as the C-series six...

So yes, the little Ford will be lighter.

I saw one today that's being fitted to an AC Ace. Four Webers on it, too, crossover style.

[Lee Nicolle]

The Chev engine is the same weight as the C-series six...

So yes, the little Ford will be lighter.

I saw one today that's being fitted to an AC Ace. Four Webers on it, too, crossover style.

I believe that fully, again the fallacy of big heavy V8s!

Those original 3 litre engines can be made to go quite well. The V8 though provides more easy power for less money.

With a good overdrive 5 speed the Austin diff should still be ok. 3.5 and 3.9 I believe they have and are quite strong, and light too.

I suspect that the car in question here could be converted back quite simply as nothing of any consequence appears to be cut.

Probably not something I would do to such a car these days though in reality probably far more functional.

[GreenMachine]

The photographer is hiding in the bumper overider! 6 litre what? Chev?

Yes  and yes !
 

Actually while it is quite busy in there it all fits properly.  Seemed to be done very well. 302  Windsor is such a little engine it is a good fit in most cars and possibly weighs less than the original. Though those Webers will increase the weight a bit.

Now I am wishing I had a few more photos of that thing. This car had a larger bonnet opening as I recall, certainly all the structural reworking was quite visible between the wheel arches and firewall - big box sections! I am not sure what remained of Mr Healy's original beyond what you could see with the top down and the bonnet shut, whereas 'your' car might be more original in that respect.

[Lee Nicolle]

Hi Lee, with no real proof, I'd put a vote to the Barry Bray Nissan Gazelle as to be never really legal to race in Australia.

Of course, you do leave yourself open, as with cars legal to race, and cars that actually did race, well, it gets a bit muddled sometimes.

Those Gazelles were sold here in limited numbers, probably ever only a few 100 ever brought in. 

I can remember them new in showrooms and as late model cars not making much under the hammer 2-3 years later. OK car but very little parts availability which is what scuttled the resale.

As a car dealer I have seen many thousands of cars when attending auctions up to 4 times a week for about 25 years,,, these days about 4 times a year!

[Lee Nicolle]

 The last of my pics worth putting up.

1 One owner K code Fairmont, as you can see by the stickers it has done a few laps, Registered for Sunday cruises!  Neil Oatway

2  Samantha Dymond. Lola Mk1

3  EH Gp N Don Costello

4 Mellissa Ford. Mallock

5 Daryl Hansen Sb Mustang coupe

6 Peter French. Elfin Mallala

7  John Evans. Elfin Streamliner

8  Daryl Hansen GpN ? Mustang. 

9  Chris Farrell s/c MG TC

10  Barry Bates. Thomson Special

11  Chris Frost. Hartwig Special