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Posted 10 May 2016 - 19:05
I do not think that it was Wilmot. The S/f line at Wilmot had the infield with a chalet on the right side of the cars.The track at Wilmot did not double around as seen in this pic. Hence, not Wilmot.
Posted 10 May 2016 - 19:43
While he is a name that is new to me, his passing saddens me as the entirety of the top picture he is in shows the wonderful society, and country that he and others like him represented that are fast leaving us.
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Posted 10 May 2016 - 22:37
Post # 4 is definitely Waterford Hills!!
Posted 11 May 2016 - 02:35
I remember meeting him at Laguna Seca-probably in the eighties, or maybe the seventies-he was quite the showman, even then. I tried to contact him, through Jerry Entin a couple of years ago but he had just had the stroke...RIP to another racer gone.
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Posted 16 May 2016 - 19:25
J.C. Kilburn in his Cooper FJ at Green Valley Raceway Polar Prix 1961
photo: Willis Murphey collection
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Posted 16 May 2016 - 22:46
J.C. Kilburn in his Cooper FJ at Green Valley Raceway Polar Prix 1961
photo: Willis Murphy collection
Jerry,
any more photos of Kilburn in his Porsche RSK and Maser?
Do you know the VIN of the Porsche?
JoBo
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Posted 18 May 2016 - 00:08
Another shot taken during the 1962 Polar Prix at Green Valley, showing J.C.'s Black Bull Stable RSK ahead of Homer Rader in a similar car and Delmo Johnson's XK-SS/Chevy.JoBo, we don't know the car's chassis number.
Photo: Bob Jackson [from Sports Car Racing in the South, Volume 3]
Jerry,
great photo - thanks.
Do you know from whom Kilburn purchased his car. Or did he buy it new?
JoBo
Posted 18 May 2016 - 06:33
Posted 18 May 2016 - 14:26
JoBo,The 250S Maserati that J.C. Kilburn raced at Nassau in 1961 was chassis 2430. J.C. bought it for $2,500 from his employer Alan Connell and sold it for the same sum to Ed Sevadjian in 1962. There are many photos of the car in the three books titled Sports Car Racing in the South.
All research: Willem Oosthoek
Jerry,
thanks - but I meant the info for the Porsche!
JoBo
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Posted 20 May 2016 - 17:38
Looking at all the RSKs raced in the Southwest in 1961 [by Emory Cantey, Homer Rader, Jim Hall and Harry Martin], the process of elimination leads to Harry Martin.Martin raced his RSK for the last time at Green Valley in October of 1961 and then it disappeared from the grids.
All research: Willem Oosthoek
Jerry,
many thanks. That solved a question I had reg. a RSK.
JoBo
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J.C's Lotus when we went to look at it a few years back.
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Posted 26 May 2016 - 01:58
That appears to be an Eleven S1.
Posted 26 May 2016 - 11:34
Posted 26 May 2016 - 17:06
it was a S2 Club, I had some correspondence with J.C. over the car who confirmed it was his.
Unfortunately the Copper took a while to sell and the I believe the Lotus is now in japan.
Posted 26 May 2016 - 19:04
The Lotus XV resides in Massachusetts
Posted 27 May 2016 - 06:18
More on the Lotus 15 here:
http://www.britishra...am-Lotus-15.htm
http://ktrmotorsport.../1959-lotus-xv/
Vince H.
Posted 27 May 2016 - 13:34
Posted 27 May 2016 - 18:03
The Lotus XV can be seen in the link below beginning at the 00:49 second mark. The video is from Watkins Glen in 2011 (He won)
https://www.youtube....h?v=9FouU6cpOjg
Posted 28 May 2016 - 13:42
In June, 1958, Kilburn won the feature race overall at Milwaukee. It was a Midwest Council event, and he drove his Lotus 11. I was there.
Tom
Posted 28 May 2016 - 15:39
I am pretty sure the photo of the Eleven chassis is of an S1--look at the front suspension mounting points.
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Posted 28 May 2016 - 19:38
David, it is an early 2 (or 1 and a 1/2 if you like) having the 1 front suspension and the 2 'w' bracing and a 2 chassis number.
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Posted 29 May 2016 - 00:33
J. C. Kilburn agreed to several hours-long telephone interviews with me in 2002-3 and provided a wealth of information on late 1950s racing. As all his friends can attest he could talk at length and without prompting, and had an incredible memory. He could recite serial numbers from his army rifle through most of the umpteen race cars he owned. One of the men mentioned above said that if half of what J. C. said was true then he had had an amazing life. In our talks we only touched on a few topics but it was obvious J.C. had been there and done that. In recent years he stopped responding to emails and now I understand why. I wish we had lived closer. It would have been great to meet him and talk regularly.
His first Lotus Eleven and the one he recalled racing most often was chassis #213, an early Eleven LeMans he bought from its first owner, John Robert Soch. A copy of the car's logbook exists but not yet enough info to verify if the photo in post #7 is it. Today that car is even harder to locate, with at least one bogus claim to the number.
The Eleven seen here in post #4 is a later one, a Club model that may have been chassis #379. This was a number J. C. thought likely and also the number vaguely traceable before the car traveled back to the UK for restoration attempts. It may not be provable anymore as so much of the car has changed. As RBM correctly stated about the bare chassis photo, this car is one of the swing-axle (S-1) Elevens built during the S-2 manufacturing period. It has the scuttle brace and "long door" chassis of the later Series 2, and the S-2 style bonnet. There were several of these hybrids made, likely to use-up some extra axles and chassis sections that Lotus / Progress Chassis had lying around. J.C. recalled that brief period when the Lotus Eleven Club was permitted to race in the Production class, and how he and Jay Chamberlain tore-up the competition. J.C. said that the mistake he and (especially) Chamberlain made was in winning too easily. But Club Elevens were a hard sell and these men had the job of selling them.
The Eleven shown in post #41 is a Series 2 with mag wheels and other fundamental differences from the other Elevens here. I don't recall if J.C. told me anything about it. As for the car he sold to Richard Macon, that was #241, an S-1 LeMans that had sat as new-old-stock in a warehouse until 1959 when it was rescued and sold to Richard. The body was frosted over with corrosion so J.C. made a point of asking Richard what color he wanted it painted for delivery. There were about a half-dozen of these NOS Elevens that became the initial inventory for mid-West Lotus distributor John Posselius (European Motors).
The slant that J.C. could give on just about any of his experiences made every recollection unique. His tales about being a go-between for Posselius and Lotus (UK) were hilarious. The "new" racecars he inspected that had holes in crankcases or tire scrapes along the sides, the constant vigil to avoid being swindled with Chapman on one side and Chamberlain on the other. John Posselius was lucky to have J.C. working with him. They were good friends to the end. Likewise, J.C.'s customers remembered him fondly as a character but also as someone who made fair deals and who was a true enthusiast.
PS: Russ Hoenig has identified the Eleven in post #41 as chassis #548, a car that is still around today.
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Posted 31 May 2016 - 03:55
J C Kilburn --I met J C at a race in Hammond, LA in the fall of 1957(58?). He had Series 2 Lotus 11 and I was taking care of a Series 1 Lotus 11 for Bill Parham.
J C was next to us in the pits and by himself so I helped him out. WOW -- an international racing driver all the way from IL. He thanked me and stayed in touch and when he moved down here (Ft. Worth) to work for Alan Connell, he introduced me to Alan and John Miller and they put me to work for them --sometimes full time and sometimes part time, depending on whether I had quit school or was thrown out at that time. I carried J C's car around and worked on it from time to time.
Trips with Alan and John were as exciting as it gets for a kid mechanic. (19/20 yrs old).
As told by R David Jones
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Posted 31 May 2016 - 17:51
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The Eleven seen here in post #4 is a later one, a Club model that may have been chassis #379. This was a number J. C. thought likely and also the number vaguely traceable before the car traveled back to the UK for restoration attempts. It may not be provable anymore as so much of the car has changed. As RBM correctly stated about the bare chassis photo, this car is one of the swing-axle (S-1) Elevens built during the S-2 manufacturing period. It has the scuttle brace and "long door" chassis of the later Series 2, and the S-2 style bonnet. There were several of these hybrids made, likely to use-up some extra axles and chassis sections that Lotus / Progress Chassis had lying around. J.C. recalled that brief period when the Lotus Eleven Club was permitted to race in the Production class, and how he and Jay Chamberlain tore-up the competition. J.C. said that the mistake he and (especially) Chamberlain made was in winning too easily. But Club Elevens were a hard sell and these men had the job of selling them...
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