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#4301 small block

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 13:47

Ok - I'm not sure if this will baffle or (more likely) be answered in less than sixty seconds...

What connects Andy Wallace, Danny Sullivan, Philippe Gache and Markku Alen?

 

All of them raced the DTM Alfa 155?



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#4302 2F-001

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 14:15

Yes, that's it! The "Class 1" (DTM-type) Alfas.
But I think proviz was there first.

With the DTM context, I did wonder if Michael would be all over that one...

Edited by 2F-001, 23 October 2018 - 14:17.


#4303 proviz

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 15:13

Honestly, I think small block deserves to get this. I thought of DTM but did not remember an entry for Gache in a 155 in DTM and with a quick check could not find one either, just in Group A (brain fade, sorry, meant S2000). Also, as I'm not really regularly on line, maybe the quiz could proceed more smoothly if small block gets to come up with the next one. How's that with you people?


Edited by proviz, 24 October 2018 - 06:49.


#4304 2F-001

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 15:27

I think Philippe Gache possibly only drove in an ITC round at Magny Cours.

I didn't know - or had forgotten - about Danny Sullivan (also only ITC races??), until I saw it mentioned in Automobilsport, even though I probably still have the Donington programme somewhere....


Edited by 2F-001, 23 October 2018 - 15:58.


#4305 Simon Arron

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 13:50

To nudge things along…

 

The winner became a highly successful grand prix driver.

The runner-up was already a multiple winner of world championships grands prix.

The podium was completed by a driver who accumulated several grand prix victories, none of which counted towards the world championship.

All three were driving the same type of car.

 

Who, what, where, when?



#4306 racinggeek

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 18:10

Hmm -- My first thought was an Indy 500, specifically '69. That race fits the qualifications for first and second places (Mario/Gurney) but not third, unfortunately (Bobby Unser). And (EDIT) I just noticed the "same type of car" qualification. Ah well, try again ...


Edited by racinggeek, 31 October 2018 - 18:11.


#4307 Mallory Dan

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 20:14

I'm thinking F2 Brabhams maybe, 1969-70ish? 



#4308 Tim Murray

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 20:22

My thoughts currently revolve around March, F2, early-to-mid-1970s, but can’t find a race that fits.

#4309 Simon Arron

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 21:03

Not March, not Brabham. not quite 1970s...



#4310 Michael Ferner

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 22:11

I was thinking of Jean Behra for third, but I can't seem to find a race that fits...

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 22:27

Think I got it, although I'm probably DQed from answering -- Mr. Search Engine was my partner in crime after a bit more deductive thinking to narrow the search quite a lot. I did PM a response to Mr. Arron to see if I'm in the ball park.


Edited by racinggeek, 31 October 2018 - 22:52.


#4312 Simon Arron

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 07:30

Didn't expect this to last more than a couple of minutes, so here's a bit more info...

 

The PM from Chris suggested the 1955 British GP - Moss, Fangio, Kling for Mercedes, but I'm not sure Kling had multiple non-championship GP victories to his name. I know he won the 1954 Berlin GP, but don't think Solitude had a 'GP' suffix when he won there in 1950. Apologies if there is more than one event that tallies, but the one I had in mind was a touch more recent.

 

I should perhaps clarify that the winner and runner-up both had world championship GP victories under their belts when this race took place, but that the former's finest days were a year or few ahead.



#4313 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 07:40

I wonder if the person in third was Mike Hailwood. If not him, it might be another motorcyclist?

#4314 Simon Arron

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 08:18

Not Hailwood, Richard. I saw the person in third win a race at Cadwell Park - but not on a motorcycle.



#4315 Tim Murray

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 09:23

How about Danny Sullivan for the third-place finisher?

#4316 Simon Arron

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 10:00

Not Sullivan, Tim - somebody else who won a British F3 race at Cadwell!



#4317 Cirrus

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 10:36

Roberto Moreno? He won the Australian and Macau GPs and won at Cadwell in F3 in 1982



#4318 opplock

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 10:38

I think I've worked it out but had to check a couple of things on internet so am also DSQ. I didn't get to experience Cadwell until 1989, they were brave men who raced F3 cars there.  



#4319 Simon Arron

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 11:02

Roberto Moreno? He won the Australian and Macau GPs and won at Cadwell in F3 in 1982

Bingo. It shouldn't be too much of a leap from here to the complete answer...



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#4320 Mallory Dan

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 13:54

Ozzie FAt race? Some combination of Piquet, Moreno, Jones, Pironi Laffite. RT4s.  



#4321 Simon Arron

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 14:21

Formula Pacific, Dan, strictly speaking.

 

But yes,

 

Correct also on the RT4.

 

Alan Jones pulled off on the warm-up lap, Laffite was second and Moreno third.

 

The only one you haven't named is the winner!



#4322 alansart

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 14:25


 

The only one you haven't named is the winner!

Alain Prost



#4323 Simon Arron

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 14:59

Double bingo.

 

The 1982 Australian GP at Calder, team-mates Prost and Laffite finishing one-two ahead of Moreno, all in RT4s.

 

Moreno won the event in 1981, 1983 and 1984.

 

Various bits successfully resolved by Dan and the two Alans, Morgan and Raine.

 

Over to whichever of you has something in mind.



#4324 Graham Clayton

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:50

Which late 1980's Formula 1 car had four separate fuel cells, in a misguided attempt to optimise weight distribution?



#4325 Steve99

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:45

Which late 1980's Formula 1 car had four separate fuel cells, in a misguided attempt to optimise weight distribution?

 

 I recall it was a Ligier, but not sure which!



#4326 Michael Ferner

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 14:34

JS31, correct. Nice to see The Quiz come back! :)

#4327 Graham Clayton

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 19:49

Michael and Steve99,
 

Either of you can ask the next question.



#4328 Michael Ferner

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 22:23

Oh, it's Steve's - he shot the game, I just happened to come by and put a name on it.

#4329 Steve99

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:57

Well, am not very good at these, but here's a quick one and sorry if it's been asked before: in relation to the Drivers and Constructors final standings, what was unique about 1983? 



#4330 Michael Ferner

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 14:47

Was that the lowest position in the Constructor's Championship for the team of the Driver's Champion?

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 14:48

Well, am not very good at these, but here's a quick one and sorry if it's been asked before: in relation to the Drivers and Constructors final standings, what was unique about 1983? 

N Piquet took the WDC, first to do so in a turbo, Brabham-BMW. Ferrari won the Constructors also with a turbo car.

And the Cosworth DFV scored its 155 and last win with M Alboreto in Detroit.


Edited by D28, 07 December 2018 - 14:49.


#4332 Steve99

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 15:03

Was that the lowest position in the Constructor's Championship for the team of the Driver's Champion?

 Flip that sort of upside down! D28 all true, yet there's one specific factor that involves both championships; Michael is close, but also far away!



#4333 D28

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 15:22

Ferrairi won the team prize by 10 points, but Arnoux was only 3rd in WDC 10 points back of Piquet, So Tambay was essential to their win.



#4334 Steve99

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 15:30

Ferrairi won the team prize by 10 points, but Arnoux was only 3rd in WDC 10 points back of Piquet, So Tambay was essential to their win.

 

Pretty much it! I believe it is the only year in the sport where the constructor's champions did not have a driver either first or second in the driver's championship.



#4335 D28

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 15:56

Ok try this puzzle, based on similar Christian and Family names. The individuals with similar names achieved 2 motor racing feats in the same year. List is in chronological order, just fill in the blank names. Note slight differences in Christian name spelling  is acceptable.

 

Phil Hill

 

Graham Hill - Phil Hill

____  _____

 

Jackie Stewart - Jacky Ickx



#4336 Steve99

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 16:20

Are their some two wheeled answers in this? If so I'll start with Phil Hill as 61 F1 world champion, the same year Phil Read won the Junior TT.



#4337 D28

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 16:24

Are their some two wheeled answers in this? If so I'll start with Phil Hill as 61 F1 world champion, the same year Phil Read won the Junior TT.

Sorry no the puzzle refers to 4 wheel racing feats, excluding rallying as well. You have a good point, should have been clearer, That is the right idea.



#4338 D-Type

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 16:47

Jean Guichet - John Surtees 

One won Le Mans - the other the World Championship in 1964


Edited by D-Type, 07 December 2018 - 21:47.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 16:51

1961, Phil Hill won both the WDC and Le Mans

1962, Graham Hill won the WDC, Phil Hill won Le Mans

1969, Jackie Stewart won the WDC, Jacky Ickx won Le Mans

 

1964, John Surtees WDC, Jean Guichet Le Mans?



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#4340 D28

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 17:10

Jean Guichet - John Surtees 

One won Le Mans -,the other the World Championship in 1964

Right you are, good work.


Edited by D28, 07 December 2018 - 18:20.


#4341 D28

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 18:25

The puzzle winner is D-Type, seems a problem bringing that message up but I posted a couple hours ago.



#4342 D-Type

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 21:48

Thank you.  Another quicky. 
What was unique about the 1960 French GP?



Edit:  I changed Portuguese to British GP as I'd remembered wrong.


Edited by D-Type, 07 December 2018 - 21:55.


#4343 nexfast

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 23:28

All the point scorers were using Climax engines?



#4344 D-Type

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 00:13

That may be true, but it's not what I had in mind.

 

Hint:  My question relates to one particular team.



#4345 D28

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 02:59

The first 4 finishers were all Coopers, 2 works cars plus the Yeoman Credit cars, Ferrari repeated this feat in 61 but Cooper may have been the first to do it.


Edited by D28, 08 December 2018 - 03:00.


#4346 Tim Murray

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 07:30

Ferrari (D ‘52), Mercedes-Benz (GB ‘55) and Maserati (RA ‘57) did it previously.

#4347 Graham Clayton

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 08:22

Thank you.  Another quicky. 
What was unique about the 1960 French GP?
 

 

The only time that two BRP drivers finished in the points in a World Championship Grand Prix?



#4348 Roger Clark

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 08:57

Lotus’ Scottish team?

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 13:20

Lotus Scottish team = Ron Flockhart, Jim Clark and Innes Ireland. Innes was not born in Scotland , but was of Scottish parentage. French GP 1060 at which Chapman received a tartan cap.



#4350 D-Type

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 14:53

Roger Clark has it.  The only time a team fielded  3 Scots.  (Although unfortunate enough to be born south of the border, Innes Ireland considered himself a Scot and was always considered a Scot by the media.

(I was going to say it was also the only time that three Team Lotus cars made the finish but they also managed that at Silverstone a fortnight later)