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#4851 D28

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 22:38

D28: Four of them are. Carroll Shelby, Dan Gurney, Bobby Drake and Bob Bondurant all raced Ol Yalle

Yes there are 2 more you probably know, since you raced them yourself, Correct?


Edited by D28, 19 April 2019 - 22:39.


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#4852 Jerry Entin

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 23:41

Ronnie Bucknum and Bill Krause?

Here is a very good story on Max Balchowsky if any members are interested in watching this:

If you click the box on the bottom right it will show in Full screen.

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#4853 D28

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 00:35

Ronnie Bucknum and Bill Krause?

Here is a very good story on Max Balchowsky if any members are interested in watching this:

If you click the box on the bottom right it will show in Full screen.

Bucknum and Fred Gamble who raced in the 60 Italian GP.  Thanks for this wonderful video, most interesting indeed.

 

And  over to you if you want to pose one.


Edited by D28, 20 April 2019 - 00:36.


#4854 Jerry Entin

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 02:45

Which race driver actually liked the handling characteristics of the Lotus 30?

#4855 TennisUK

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 23:31

Which race driver actually liked the handling characteristics of the Lotus 30?


Surely only Colin Chapman when describing it to customers? Or am I thinking of the Lotus 49 :)

#4856 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 11:31

Seeing as the Lotus 40 was the car described as 'the same as a Lotus 30 but with 10 more problems' that might apply to the 40...

I would think all the McLaren drivers and the Lola drivers might have liked the 30's handling.

#4857 Vitesse2

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 11:56

I have a vague idea that it might have been Richie Ginther.



#4858 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 13:30

You know, that was my first thought...

But I couldn't bring to mind any time he might have driven one.

#4859 Tim Murray

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 13:58

Ginther raced a Lotus 40 in the 1965 LA Times GP at Riverside. It was then that he came out with his celebrated quote about the 40 being a 30 with ten more mistakes:

http://lotus30.com/l...mments_ginther/

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#4860 2F-001

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 14:08

Ginther's summary of the 40 suggests he had at least some experience of its predecessor - and wasn't enamoured of it...

 

Somewhat like Ray, I was going to suggest "anyone who was competing against it"...

 

According to DCN's "Story of Lotus. 61-71", Mike Spence had a run in a 30 at Zeltweg and got under the existing F1 lap record (Gurney's); the resulting lap time might have pleased him... but, of course, that doesn't mean he necessarily enjoyed the experience!



#4861 Jerry Entin

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 01:33

Krause-in-the-40.jpg
Bill Krause in the Lotus 30 at Monterey


The answer was:
Billy Krause, who raced one at Laguna Seca in 1964 “Nobody liked that Lotus 30, but I liked it. It was hairy, but you could dirt track it like a Birdcage. Very fragile, though. At Laguna the hub sheared right off while I was in 4th place. “

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#4862 Henk Vasmel

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 21:40

We're talking about the famous World Championship, not even too long ago. A famous team had a driver which was not always available, so they had a spare driver as well for that season. The substitute drove a few races instead of the regular one. In one of the races, during practice, the nominated driver suddenly went home, because his father had died. So the even more famous team owner ordered the substitute driver to take over, only to be told that his father had died too, so he was not available either.

 

Name the year, the team owner and both drivers.


Edited by Henk Vasmel, 25 April 2019 - 21:42.


#4863 Michael Ferner

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 22:52

1984, Bernard Ecclestone, Teo and Corrado Fabi.

#4864 Henk Vasmel

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Posted 26 April 2019 - 06:41

1984, Bernard Ecclestone, Teo and Corrado Fabi.

Completely correct, over to you!



#4865 Michael Ferner

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 19:57

All drivers from a certain continent, who ever finished in the top three of a WDC round, drove for one and the same team at one time or another. Name continent and team.

#4866 D28

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 20:36

Africa and Cooper  Car Company?


Edited by D28, 27 April 2019 - 20:39.


#4867 Michael Ferner

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 21:19

I don't recall Jody driving for the Coopers! :)

#4868 D28

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 21:38

Neither do I but wasn't really sure, not surprised.



#4869 2F-001

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 06:13

Do you mean they all drove for the same team in WDC events (or perhaps in other categories)?

 

By process of elimination, I assumed we're thinking of Asia - with all of the drivers being Japanese? - but I can't reconcile that will the drivers with top-three finishes having driven for the same team.

So... I  guess I'm overlooking something... 



#4870 Michael Ferner

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 06:30

Same team, but not necessarily in WDC events. :smoking:

#4871 Ristin

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 14:57

North America, Penske.

Though I have to admit I can‘t remember Gilles driving for Penske.

#4872 2F-001

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 15:47

North America, Penske.

Though I have to admit I can‘t remember Gilles driving for Penske.

Nor Phil Hill, Dan Gurney or Mauri Rose (for example)...!  Surely this has to be Asia, no?

 

And I'd guess one of the WSC team, though I can't for the moment think which one to suggest.



#4873 Ristin

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 16:08

Hmm. I took a guess the GTO Hill shared with Penske might have been Penske‘s car.
A coworker of mine suggests Africa and Ferrari. Based on the assumption that at some point John Love and Tony Maggs might have driven works Ferraris in long distance events.

#4874 2F-001

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 17:53

Ah... that's a possibility that hadn't occurred to me...

I think Love may have raced David Piper's Ferrari, but not so sure about a works one.

 

Could Scheckter have raced for an SA-based team that was around long enough for the other two have been in?


Edited by 2F-001, 28 April 2019 - 17:58.


#4875 ensign14

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 17:57

Technically, Antarctica.  Because you cannot find a counter-example.



#4876 Michael Ferner

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 06:40

North America and Ferrari come pretty close, if you ignore Indianapolis and include Ferrari-engined teams like Sauber (Villeneuve jr. and Pérez), or Ferrari test drives and affiliated sports car teams like Lancia (Cheever) - even Revson and Donohue raced Ferrari sports cars, didn't they? However, I don't see Andretti jr. or Stroll fit into this, and anyway it's not what I was thinking of.

C'mon, it's not really that hard! I didn't think this would take this long. Think Junior formulae...

#4877 2F-001

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 07:15

<<  ...if you ignore Indianapolis and include Ferrari-engined teams like Sauber... >>

 

Well, that's where I've gone wrong - I wasn't ignoring Indianapolis and was looking for "a" team, not a whole raft of them!  :-) 



#4878 Mallory Dan

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 07:49

I'm thick, but sorry Michael, I don't even understand the question!!



#4879 Tim Murray

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 07:58

I’ll try Asia and TOM’S Toyota (although it pains me greatly to have to type that silly redundant apostrophe).

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#4880 2F-001

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 08:34

I can't think of a link between Sato and TOMS, though (with or without apostrophe!) - or any other Toyota-based team. Or Kobayashi, come to think of it, unless any Toyota-aligned team is thought of as 'the same'... 

Also, I can't see any interpretation that would allow North America.

 

(On balance, I'm tending to side with Dan!)


Edited by 2F-001, 29 April 2019 - 08:37.


#4881 Michael Ferner

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 08:38

Not Asia/Tom's.

I'm looking for one team, same boss all the time. Over the years, this team had all drivers from a certain continent under contract, who ever finished amongst the first three in a WDC round. Not one-off drives, but full driving contracts, each time lasting longer than a full year. As a matter of fact, all those drivers won multiple races for this team. And, two of them were even team mates for a couple of years at this team. Now?

#4882 Michael Ferner

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 08:43

Forget North America, that was a red herring. Tim's answer got the initials right for both continent and team, though...

#4883 ensign14

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 09:30

Oh bloody hell.  Obvious now.

 

It's Africa and it's Tyrrell.  John Love and Tony Maggs were together there for a year in FJ.



#4884 Michael Ferner

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 09:39

Bingo. Two years, actually, 1961 & '62. Glad you didn't come up with Antarctica and T-Mobile...

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 09:55

K.  Which positive integers under 100 have never started a World Championship race?



#4886 2F-001

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:08

Quite right Michael; it wasn't (in retrospect at least) "really that hard"!

The FJ clue got me close, but my poor brain didn't recall Love...



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 12:30

All drivers from a certain continent, who ever finished in the top three of a WDC round, drove for one and the same team at one time or another. Name continent and team.

 

Oh bloody hell.  Obvious now.

 

It's Africa and it's Tyrrell.  John Love and Tony Maggs were together there for a year in FJ.

 

@Michael: When did Lorenzo Bandini drive for Team Tyrrell?



#4888 D28

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 12:41

K.  Which positive integers under 100 have never started a World Championship race?

If you mean car numbers, I will go with 13 and maybe 99



#4889 ensign14

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 12:54

No - indeed 99, which has a win under its belt, started yesterday...



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 13:36

@Michael: When did Lorenzo Bandini drive for Team Tyrrell?

That's a moot point Reinhard... I guess Michael was using "from" as an analogue for "nationality". And I believe Marj was technically an Italian colony at the time of Lorenzo's birth, which clouds the issue further.



#4891 D28

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 13:40

No - indeed 99, which has a win under its belt, started yesterday...

And Pastor Maldonado  chose or was assigned #13, is he the only driver to do so? It hasn't been too popular.


Edited by D28, 29 April 2019 - 13:40.


#4892 ensign14

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 13:58

Moises Solana also used the 13 on occasion.  So did Divina Galica but she never started a WC race with it.

 

That's a moot point Reinhard... I guess Michael was using "from" as an analogue for "nationality". And I believe Marj was technically an Italian colony at the time of Lorenzo's birth, which clouds the issue further.

 

"Just because the Son of God was born in a stable, it does not make him a horse."  -the Duke of Wellington, denying he was Irish
 



#4893 Michael Ferner

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 07:48

@Michael: When did Lorenzo Bandini drive for Team Tyrrell?


Ah, so Dominic Dobson was the last German to race in the Indy 500, and Mike Beuttler the last Egyptian in F 1?

I've had these discussions so often, it's not even fun anymore. :(

#4894 Michael Ferner

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 07:54

@ensign, if we are to guess, it would help to know at how many correct answers we are looking!

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:44

Isn't that part of the fun?   ;)

 

Subject to my own errors and omissions, I think the total of correct answers is...two.



#4896 Tim Murray

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:05

I think one of them is 80. If there’s another one I’ve missed it.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:30

80 is one of them.

 

Although on checking I think there are 3.  I stand to be corrected though.



#4898 Michael Ferner

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 17:41

63 and 96?

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 18:05

63 was also used on Sunday...George Russell is the first driver to start a WC race with the number though.

 

96 is one of the others.  I think there's a third, which has been used in qualifying, but I couldn't find it in a race.



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Posted 02 May 2019 - 09:45

No other guesses for the last one?  Or shall I pass it on?